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On-Topic Trump Bans Syrian Refugees

It was unbelievable, but so horribly believable at the same time listening to Sean Spicer try to rationalize how children under 5 pose a security threat.

Were the children coming by themselves or brought by adults taught to hate America? ISIS uses children as suicide bombers. The bigger problem is preventing the exceptions from engulfing the rule. The immigration service have allowed hundreds of exceptions. http://www.trunews.com/article/leaked-dhs-docs-shows-us-has-granted-872-refugee-waivers
 
Jesus Christ.

I don't even know what the US is turning into.
 
Were the children coming by themselves or brought by adults taught to hate America? ISIS uses children as suicide bombers. The bigger problem is preventing the exceptions from engulfing the rule. The immigration service have allowed hundreds of exceptions. http://www.trunews.com/article/leaked-dhs-docs-shows-us-has-granted-872-refugee-waivers

I am sure the Parents of a 4 month old girl who needed heart surgery were teaching their child to hate America. You are seriously the lowest of the low when this is your response to that kind of story.
 
^ Hopefully they just bring her to Sick Kids in Toronto....

It is sad that Benvolio and his ilk put their racist ideology before compassion.

No wonder my contempt for him and his Stormfronters knows no bounds.
 
I am sure the Parents of a 4 month old girl who needed heart surgery were teaching their child to hate America. You are seriously the lowest of the low when this is your response to that kind of story.
No, but the parents have been taught for years to hate us. Their country is said to be the largest sponsor of terrorism.
 
No, but the parents have been taught for years to hate us. Their country is said to be the largest sponsor of terrorism.

Oh Lord.
So the people who flee warfare are the aggressors.
And barring the entry of their citizens, including tragic cases like the baby needing surgery won't damage America's reputation amongst their citizens?

Where once the USA led the world by aiming to provide an example of freedom, compassion, openness and democracy for others to follow, it's now buried itself down a rabbit hole.

Isolationism, exceptionalism, authoritarianism, one-sided diplomacy and undermined democracy aren't models for the rest of the world to follow.

They form a cautionary tale, one that other previously successful countries have followed to their demise.
 
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You think so?
http://www.wsj.com/video/do-iranians-really-hate-america/D9977423-5F87-441D-86C4-01069443A93A.html

I've seen many videos and interviews in Iran over the decades since the 80s and they all pretty much show the same thing. There is a small very vocal minority that hates America supported by the regime but that the average Iranian would be more than happy to live in peace with the US. They may teach folks to hate America but it doesn't seem to be taking. I was laughing at the one guy in the green shirt at the Mosque who finally joins the handful of others chanting only he not even chanting and is just barely putting any effort in the hand motions. "yea yea hate America (Yawn)"
 
No, but the parents have been taught for years to hate us. Their country is said to be the largest sponsor of terrorism.

And you have been taught for years to hate them. You hate a very small portion of them, but ALL of them have become victims of your hate. One day you will see that... I hope.
 
How are Iranians victims of hate?

You're the one that hates them. Knowing the answer would require knowing the workings of your mind, and even with my vast knowledge of psychology (I took a few courses of it in university), I can't for the life of me figure out how your mind works. It may have been covered in my abnormal psychology course, but that was over 40 years ago and my memory is a bit rusty in those matters.
 
And you have been taught for years to hate them. You hate a very small portion of them, but ALL of them have become victims of your hate. One day you will see that... I hope.

You're the one that hates them. Knowing the answer would require knowing the workings of your mind, and even with my vast knowledge of psychology (I took a few courses of it in university), I can't for the life of me figure out how your mind works. It may have been covered in my abnormal psychology course, but that was over 40 years ago and my memory is a bit rusty in those matters.

Are people still victims of hate when they're told that the best thing that could happen is when they're bred out of existence, or that they're infinitely inferior to another race... or is it OK when it's directed at certain people?
 
Are people still victims of hate when they're told that the best thing that could happen is when they're bred out of existence, or that they're infinitely inferior to another race... or is it OK when it's directed at certain people?

You tell us, you seem to be pretty selective yourself.
 
You tell us, you seem to be pretty selective yourself.

I never said any race was inferior, and I never said any race deserves to be bred out of existence... unlike your friend who made such statements. If I showed you his quote, but omitted his name and who he was commenting on, you would be screaming like a chimpanzee about how it must be some "bigoted trump supporting racist."

Since religion was mentioned earlier, I do not support ANY religion that teaches gays should be put to death, or that women should have no rights... whether it be Christianity, or Islam. I'm not "selective" on that either, I don't like any religion because it teaches nothing but hatred, and it hinders any kind of technological and scientific progress...
But sure, you can defend one particular religion that treats women like property and executes people for being gay... you're free to do so... and I'm free to say I'd rather not accept that level of homophobia.
 
The problem isn't Islam itself; other religions are just as dangerous and hateful.
It's how people perceive it. One side says that all Muslims are ISIS, which is not true... and the other side completely ignores all the atrocities that Islam teaches, and then shouts down anyone who criticizes said atrocities by calling them "racist" (even though Islam is NOT a race, it's a RELIGION.)

No one's afraid to criticize the hatred and bigotry that Christianity teaches... so why is it suddenly so terrible to criticize another religion for teaching the same types of things?
 
You have selective reading.

He was stereotyping a type of white people, not saying a whole race of people should be bred out of existence. Secondly, that is not how I would react considering I don't scream and I don't claim that racists exists specifically as Trump Supporters. Racism or any bigotry is not party line specific.

Also I have never defended women being treated as property nor do I defend when people execute or treat any group of people in any manner like that. I just separate the radicals from the more rational side of it (while condemning it) and don't use them as excuses to generalize and as a means to ban a whole group of people from my Country.

As for the topic, I will reiterate that it is awful and this doesn't deserve to happen to any group of people at all for any reason or rhetoric that could be made up to justify it. The people who are getting hurt the most here are the innocent and barely if at all the individuals that are supposed to be the targets of such actions are effected.

This has already been proven to be more about race and a religion that is not Christian/Catholic, if it was specifically about illegal immigrants or national security then the people with green cards wouldn't be effected.

It is a sad time to be alive during what is going to be another stain on this nations History. Further proof that we never actually learn from our History.
 
Are people still victims of hate when they're told that the best thing that could happen is when they're bred out of existence, or that they're infinitely inferior to another race... or is it OK when it's directed at certain people?

People of all races, creeds, colours and heritage can make a positive and worthwhile contribution to society.

Hateful douchebags and sloths are no good to anyone. Like it or not, some people are worth less to the rest of us not because of who they are, but how they act.
 
I like the breaking news that orange man was bragging about his electoral win and then screamed at the Australian PM tonight and hung up on him over refugee deals and other trade deals---they are saying it was the end of the day and orange man was tired----screaming at our friends and in bed with putin---:rotflmao:
 
I like the breaking news that orange man screamed at the Australian PM tonight and hung up on him over this and other trade deals---they are saying it was the end of the day and orange man was tired----screaming at our friends and in bed with putin---:rotflmao:

And the Aussie Prime Minister would have been arse licking, he's a conservative multimillionaire leading an anti immigration government.
That will sting badly in terms of their relationship.

If that's how Trump deals with those most closely aligned to his own politics...
 
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