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On-Topic Trump Bans Syrian Refugees

So please, step out from your boudoir, grab a Muslim lover's hand and march for equality and gay rights in their countries such as Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, and Iraq. Let us know how that works out.

No, that is just dumb and completely missed the point of what he is saying.
 
^^I am one of the very few posting here who has actually travelled in Muslim countries without fear, knowing that my common sense, and discreet habits ensure that I did not embarrass my sexual partners, or expose me to uninvited trouble.
 
So please, step out from your boudoir, grab a Muslim lover's hand and march for equality and gay rights in their countries such as Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, and Iraq. Let us know how that works out.

You really think the ban is about accepting gay people, or you just struggling to excuse the actions of someone who shares most of your prejudices?
 
Meanwhile...the US has revoked all the NEXUS cards for permanent residents of Canada from people originating from one of the seven countries where Trump has no business interests or there is no oil.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/u-s-revokes-all-nexus-cards-from-canadian-permanent-residents-with-citizenship-in-restricted-countries-cbsa-1.3966514

What a total clusterfuck.

They don't even know what they're doing. Heck, let's chuck out the manual on banking and healthcare regulation and let a guy who shouts at the TV when Fox is on fix them.
 
I think it's hysterical that most guys on here fully support a religion that thinks we are all dirty pigs and deserve to die because we are gay. Some people are too smart for their own good.

I don't think anyone support a "religion" here.
They support the people who are innocent and being harass by the US government.
 
I don't think anyone support a "religion" here.
They support the people who are innocent and being harass by the US government.

He doesn't understand that the religion is NOT the terrorist. The religion is a victim to the radicals just as much as cities around the world. It is not the refugees who are causing the problem. They're trying to get away from it.
 
I don't think anyone support a "religion" here.
They support the people who are innocent and being harass by the US government.

There are more than a few practicing Christians on here.

He doesn't understand that the religion is NOT the terrorist. The religion is a victim to the radicals just as much as cities around the world. It is not the refugees who are causing the problem. They're trying to get away from it.

Please don't intimate what I do and don't understand about religion because you have absolutely no clue. Funny how Christianity is bashed on here at every turn, yet the bible doesn't call for our death, as does islam and the Qur'an.

 
There are more than a few practicing Christians on here.



Please don't intimate what I do and don't understand about religion because you have absolutely no clue. Funny how Christianity is bashed on here at every turn, yet the bible doesn't call for our death, as does islam and the Qur'an.

Start quoting the Qur'an to us and we'll happily bash it, its a barbaric religion, but when it comes to people I judge them on their individual behavior. Most Muslims are not actively trying to kill gays.
 
Funny how Christianity is bashed on here at every turn, yet the bible doesn't call for our death, as does islam and the Qur'an.

No, it doesn't, but the Bible DOES 'command' Christians to love their neighbours and don't judge people. That doesn't happen very often from the far-right side of the fence. In fact, the complete opposite happens.

Yes, there are people out there who want to kill us, but judging them and expanding it to the entire religion of over a billion people is ludicrous. It would be like judging you and applying it to everyone in Toronto.

You don't seem to understand that Muslims hate what the extremists are doing just as much as we do. It is not our duty to persecute them for what 'the bad guys' do.

To put in another way. I'm sure you know about Jonestown and Wacko. Suppose the non-Christians judged Christianity by those extremists and demanded that all Christians be exterminated?

And please don't insult me by laughing and saying the comparison is stupid. It is exactly what you are doing against innocent Muslims.
 
^ Actually, the same old testament that Islam is based upon does call for homosexuals to be put to death.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibh3.htm

And there are so called 'Christians' who still believe that this should be the case.

It has only been by Christians and progressive Jews rejecting these bronze age attitudes in their scripture that the idea has fallen out of favour.

Every muslim does not believe that homosexuals should be put to death any more than every Christian does.
 
^ When I said 'us', I was referring to North Americans, not homosexuals.
 
I was actually referring to the quoted post from Mikey, which seems to betray his lack of understanding of what is actually in his bible....or of the long, hard road that Christianity has had to keep travelling to keep the faith from being overtaken by those who hold the Old Testament above the new.
 
All muslims may not want to kill gays, Christians, Jews, adulteresses etc but there is now way to separate the good from the bad. And they often become radicalized after they arrive, or their children or grand children. The American people and the president made the decision to exclude them and it is their decision to make.
 
All muslims may not want to kill gays, Christians, Jews, adulteresses etc but there is now way to separate the good from the bad.And they often become radicalized after they arrive, or their children or grand children. The American people and the president made the decision to exclude them and it is their decision to make.

Please do not speak for Americans like me, thanks.

You and your authoritarian America is disgusting.
 
All muslims may not want to kill gays, Christians, Jews, adulteresses etc but there is now way to separate the good from the bad. And they often become radicalized after they arrive, or their children or grand children. The American people and the president made the decision to exclude them and it is their decision to make.

No. A minority of voters, and the racists Steve Bannon, Stephen Miller and Trump decided this.

And it isn't solely their decision to make.

As they are discovering to their cost.
 
And they often become radicalized after they arrive

And where is your evidence for this statement?

By the way, there IS a way to separate the good from the bad. The good are usually running away from the bad. They're called 'refugees'.

Remember a long, long time ago when the United States closed its borders to incoming flights and thousands of American citizens were stranded in Canada? There was a real danger. Through no fault of their own, they were literally refugees. They had nowhere to go. We took them in. We fed them, gave them clothing if necessary, gave them a place to sleep.

And we were doing it again when Trump signed that EO. We were providing Americans and Americans to be and those who were legally in the United States with whatever help they needed simply because they were not allowed to go home.

That's what you do for people who need help.
 
No. A minority of voters, and the racists Steve Bannon, Stephen Miller and Trump decided this.

And it isn't solely their decision to make.

As they are discovering to their cost.

Wrong. It was a major platform of Trumps campaign and his victory resulted in large part from his position on refugees and immigration. Americans voted for it. Further it was Trumps decision to make as president.
 
Wrong. It was a major platform of Trumps campaign and his victory resulted in large part from his position on refugees and immigration. Americans voted for it. Further it was Trumps decision to make as president.

I'd say that Trump's support was the result of him being the anti-establishment candidate, rather than in anything to do with refugees, and immigration.
 
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