Trump blames Canada for California fires.

[willhunt]

^ According to Wiki, there are 15 dams on the Colorado River proper with hundreds more on the tributaries. Combined, they can hold back 4 to 5 times the average annual flow of the entire Colorado River Basin.

That's a lot of water not to see the end of the journey.

This is a very gross, but conservative figure from at least two years ago. The evaporation rate of "man-made" lakes varies between 6% to 15% of volume in a seven day period. Warmer and dryer weather will aggravate that. Colorado Ranchers have sold their valuable water rights and the Natives' have been stolen and shuffled. I worked one summer on a diversion tunnel that rerouted water from the Western Slope to the Eastern Slope to supply the Front Range. The cattle ranches are disappearing because "water calls" for irrigation have gone from the headwaters to the highest bidder. The highest bidder is not a rancher who's sold his cattle because free-range grasses are gone and local alfalfa is too expensive. I've lived in Colorado and Utah most of my life and the change at higher elevations is shocking. Bit of a rant, sorry.

 

[gsdx]

^And it happened so fast:

Lake Mead's 'bathtub ring' in 2015:

More great photos: https://we-explore.com/expedition/1857

 

[willhunt]

^ Yes I'm sure this is the look global warming. The need for water is going to make us pretty fuckin' ugly.

 

[ballcaphair]

I'm posting to tell you with peace in my heart that except for one fire near LA, California is contained. From where I stand all I can see is aftermath with weary mourners searching for ghosts in a former paradise. When I was a kid we volunteered support during a summer outing in the real world. San Juan County CO Missionary Ridge Fire support was our outing. I made some friends who loved what I loved. Here's a link from a friend who spent part of the summer with us up in MT. I'm not going to put any political spin on this because sometimes the earth just speaks for itself. Thank you for your support, Beloveds. I completely respect you, your families, your friends, your neighborhoods, and our planet. It is an honor to be among everyone waiting in the locker room. (Chris, The Hopeful.)

From a tri-state re-certified friend.

https://coloradosun.com/2018/11/08/...ld-champion-trees-confirmed-dead-in-416-fire/

 

[Kyanimal]

^And it happened so fast:

Lake Mead's 'bathtub ring' in 2015:

More great photos: https://we-explore.com/expedition/1857

I have a confession ...

One of my grandfather's brothers was an engineer. He was fascinated with the process of combustion conversion to usable energy. One of his inventions was a meter to measure the efficiency of that process. That turned into the foundation of his company.

When the Hoover Dam was constructed, his company was chosen for it's control system to manage the electrical generation and output. That control system is still in use today. His name is on a plaque, at the top of the dam, on the Nevada side. There are also some pictures of him in the visitors' center.

In a way, he was partially responsible for what is now Lake Mead's bathtub ring ...

However, it was also one of his company's control systems that alerted the crew to what was happening at Three Mile Island, and allowed them to shut it down before a complete meltdown.

Sometimes it's only through hindsight that we come to understand what it is we've done, and can hopefully use those lessons to mitigate not only the past, but also take the necessary steps to improve our future.

 

[gsdx]

In a way, he was partially responsible for what is now Lake Mead's bathtub ring ...

Your great uncle was responsible for the creation of Lake Mead. He's not responsible for the drastic drop in water levels. Humans for whom the dam was built in the first place are responsible for using the water faster than nature can replenish it. Vegas is probably the biggest culprit in using the water (over 5 million gallons in the case of the Bellagio alone) for entertainment rather than for necessity. And being in a desert, the rate of evaporation would be enormous. Those fountains would need constant and regular replenishing.

A lot of water is going up, but a lot less is coming back down.

 

[willhunt]

Kyanimal, Your Uncle is not responsible for the bathtub rings. He's responsible for an effort to generate energy that is still cleaner than nuke and coal plants. We're all part of the Big Picture, so all of this is on us. That Trump and his party have yanked us into the dirty past is no way to MAGA. That we are not doing all we can do is on him.

 

[frankfrank]

Hey guys, I just realized I've never heard anything about this:

HAS CALIFORNIA GOTTEN ANY FEDERAL ASSISTANCE with fighting, or recovering from, the fires?

I mean, D...ump hates California so much that it wouldn't surprise me to hear that there was no federal $$ at this time when they really needed it.

 

[willhunt]

^ He had already trimmed funding to national parks in Feb. and for two days delayed declaring it a National Disaster.

bullies bully

RESCUERS RESCUE

 

[inbed]

Chris
THANK YOU.

 

[smokeshadow]

I realize that this is a rather old thread; but, I wanted one that delt with the California fires. And, I didn't want to start another thread when there might be one already (and, there are several ).

Anyway, it appears that at least one of the fires was started from New Years Eve fireworks

LA fires may have been started by NYE fireworks

The Los Angeles fires may have been a reignition of a blaze that began on New Year’s Eve due to residents setting off fireworks.

currently.att.yahoo.com

 

[johaninsc]

Curious that wilhunt's profile is...unavailable.

 

[rareboy]

So deja vu all over again.

This time, the tragedy is somehow partly Canada's fault because we won't trun on that big tap to deliver water to California...although no one has actually presented a plan as to how draining the water from Canada was actually supposed to get to California...or what the problem is with the Washington and Oregon Rockies that they are not delivering the water to California?

Anyhow. I saw Canadian water bombers.

Dropping water on LA.

8 months of no rain, even in a coastal state covered with brush and trees can be an issue. Ask BC.