Trump this.

[rareboy]

^ The VEEP wannabe squad.

 

[KaraBulut]

^ The VEEP wannabe squad.

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A reporter spotted Trump in the courtroom putting edits on a set of sentences that were very similar to the "statements" that his cult members were making outside the Court this week.

Another reporter confronted Trump, asking him about the statements and whether they were instructed by Trump on what to say (which could be considered a violation of the gag order).

This was Trump's response:

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7368846575730298154

I do have a lot of surrogates, and they are speaking very beautifully. And they come all– from all over Washington and they’re highly respected, and they think this is the greatest scam they’ve ever seen.

And some are Democrats. They’re very embarrassed by what’s going on.

I just want to start by saying that, on the electric vehicles that Biden is pushing down everybody’s throat, even though people don’t want them.

He wants to put a big tariff on China, which is a suggestion that I said, where have you been for three and a half years? You should have done it a long time ago. But they’ve also got to do it with other vehicles, and they have to do it on a lot of other products, because China’s eating our lunch right now…

Apparently, he ran out of time before he was able to bring up windmills and low-flow toilets.

 

[gsdx]

^ Suddenly he's reading WITHOUT his glasses.

 

[rareboy]

A reporter spotted Trump in the courtroom putting edits on a set of sentences that were very similar to the "statements" that his cult members were making outside the Court this week.

Another reporter confronted Trump, asking him about the statements and whether they were instructed by Trump on what to say (which could be considered a violation of the gag order).

This was Trump's response:

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7368846575730298154

Apparently, he ran out of time before he was able to bring up windmills and low-flow toilets.

What the actual fuck?

 

[KaraBulut]

What the actual fuck?

I think this is why the Biden campaign is suddenly so gung-ho on getting Trump on a debate stage. He's really becoming less and less coherent.

 

[TX-Beau]

.S. Rep. Matt Gaetz evoked language adopted by the far-right Proud Boys extremist group as he appeared at court Thursday to support Donald Trump at his hush money trial, reflecting the undercurrent of activist elements present among the presumptive GOP nominee's supporters as he seeks a return to the White House.,,

MSN

Pedo and the Rapist, sounds like a buddy movie.

 

[Norri]

I think this is why the Biden campaign is suddenly so gung-ho on getting Trump on a debate stage. He's really becoming less and less coherent.

There was a time when anyone running for president would have their temperament evaluated as in does he/she have the temperament to be president, do you want them to be in charge in a crisis. Evidently temperament doesn’t matter anymore, how anyone could sleep peacefully with that wack job in charge mystifies me. Trump isn’t even in control of his own emotions how could he be in control of anything else?

 

[TX-Beau]

There was a time when anyone running for president would have their temperament evaluated as in does he/she have the temperament to be president, do you want them to be in charge in a crisis. Evidently temperament doesn’t matter anymore, how anyone could sleep peacefully with that wack job in charge mystifies me. Trump isn’t even in control of his own emotions how could he be in control of anything else?

I'm not so sure there was ever anything other than electability as a requirement, but OK, say that in some past competence and temperament were re-requisites - no one is voting for Toad because they think about temperament; they vote for him because they think he will stomp on the mud people.

No temperament is required for that. The GOP has been headed in that direction for decades.

 

[rareboy]

Certainly saw this with Haberman and Cuomo....the media have so much to answer for from 2015/16 when they gave him all the oxygen in the room.

 

[NotHardUp1]

Certainly saw this with Haberman and Cuomo....the media have so much to answer for from 2015/16 when they gave him all the oxygen in the room.

The entire media made the same mistake, not just the conservative ones. ABC News had interviews with Trump daily. It is a valid reason why the media is discredited.

 

[NotHardUp1]

I think this is why the Biden campaign is suddenly so gung-ho on getting Trump on a debate stage. He's really becoming less and less coherent.

I thought of that only briefly. More likely is Biden doing damage control against the GOP lie that he is senile.

Unfortunately, it won't work. Viewers will see an pale, frail old face looking cranky and stiff, as that is the only way Biden can look lately. MANY people won't even have the volume on or be following. They'll just get the visual. And if they are aggressive viewers, they'll see Trump as a fighter.

The likely effect of the debates will be to turn off even more of the center of the spectrum from voting at all.

It will be a crap shoot about which party's faithful will turn out to save their party.

 

[Alistair]

^ that’s why abortion rights will be a key issue for many states.

 

[Yuki Sohma]

Never have found Donald appealing in any manner

 

[rareboy]

 

[NotHardUp1]

^ that’s why abortion rights will be a key issue for many states.

Absolutely.

There may yet be a wild card introduced before Election Day, but it's just a cynical suspicion of mine at the moment.

For now, it remains abortion, or more accurately, women's rights.

 

[Norri]

I'm not so sure there was ever anything other than electability as a requirement, but OK, say that in some past competence and temperament were re-requisites - no one is voting for Toad because they think about temperament; they vote for him because they think he will stomp on the mud people.

No temperament is required for that. The GOP has been headed in that direction for decades.

There certainly was such a time and I’ll provide a couple of examples first and foremost was the 1972 presidential election when one of the dirty tricks of the Nixon campaign was to hurt Ed Muskie the democrat leading the field at the time. While defending his wife against false charges put out by the Nixon campaign Ed got emotional and cried that pretty much ended his campaign as he was deemed too emotional to be president…..didn’t have the right temperament.

Bad behavior also was enough to end a campaign as Nelson Rockefeller, Gary Hart and our current president can attest to.

But I take your point times have changed. It’s ironic because this culture is far more judgmental today than in past times. Today it’s not who you are but who you hate.

 

[gsdx]

 

[TX-Beau]

There certainly was such a time and I’ll provide a couple of examples first and foremost was the 1972 presidential election when one of the dirty tricks of the Nixon campaign was to hurt Ed Muskie the democrat leading the field at the time. While defending his wife against false charges put out by the Nixon campaign Ed got emotional and cried that pretty much ended his campaign as he was deemed too emotional to be president…..didn’t have the right temperament.

Bad behavior also was enough to end a campaign as Nelson Rockefeller, Gary Hart and our current president can attest to.

But I take your point times have changed. It’s ironic because this culture is far more judgmental today than in past times. Today it’s not who you are but who you hate.

It would be more accurate to say that party boss vetting of candidates elected by delegation, introduced some qualifications on the candidates, but in the era of open primaries and popularity contests, that's been out the window for some time.

These days, the qualifications are - to get the most votes. period.

 

[Norri]

It would be more accurate to say that party boss vetting of candidates elected by delegation, introduced some qualifications on the candidates, but in the era of open primaries and popularity contests, that's been out the window for some time.

These days, the qualifications are - to get the most votes. period.

I gave you 4 examples 3 of which occurred in the era of open primaries and after the era of party bosses.

Perhaps it’s the different electorate from then till now, people frowned on divorce in 1964 but not anymore. Or maybe the difference is the candidates themselves both Biden and Hart could have trudged on but chose not to was it a sense of shame which is gone these days or just a belief on their part that they were done.

Clinton opened up this door, his impeachment failed because no one cared about what he did, in another era they would have. Or maybe it’s just a reflection of our take no prisoners politics, I’ll defend those on my side not because I don’t care about their behavior but because of who is attacking them.

Our standards have devolved and perhaps our values as well.

 

[rareboy]