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Trump to Meet with the Leader of the Free World

evelyn said:
You were the one who first raised the issue here. You can't make rather dramatic and unfounded allegations, and then not expect to be challenged by what amounts to a few posts.

Suggestion: there is no need to become accusatory so quickly all the time. Just use the little
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Hmmm.

You apparently are incapable of understanding the difference, so I'll explain it for you.

My original post was on topic. It dealt with Trump's apparent purposeful rudeness to another head of state...given his hyperbolic handshake performances with other heads of state in the oval office.

Your post was a fairly classic "yeah but look at what Obama did" deflection. Which led to (I even posted one myself) 'Yeah but look what Bush did" pics...

To be honest I still have no fucking clue what point you were even trying to make, since there is no logical connection between Trump's petulant and clumsy performance with Merkel and another president's apparent polite deference to another head of state.

But look. We get it. You are a Trump supporter and you are new here in this persona.

We are used to Kev's occasional drunk posting and Benvolio's constant derailments, but here's the thing. If you want to challenge a point, by all means please do. But challenge the point being made by staying on the thread topic. And use citations as possible to back up any assertions you make. It is one of the hallmarks of this forum.
 
evelyn said:
Very well said.

As for body-language...
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It's not 'body language' (no hyphen). It is 'protocol'. Trump doesn't know what that is.

It's like not touching the Queen. And that's one great reason to keep Trump as far away from her as possible.
 
gsdx said:
It's not 'body language' (no hyphen). It is 'protocol'. Trump doesn't know what that is.

It's like not touching the Queen. And that's one great reason to keep Trump as far away from her as possible.
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I'm not sure the queen can be prosecuted for any crime in the UK...
 
gsdx said:
It's not 'body language' (no hyphen). It is 'protocol'. Trump doesn't know what that is.

It's like not touching the Queen. And that's one great reason to keep Trump as far away from her as possible.
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Its a matter of interpretation. I interpret bowing to an evil, head-chopping 'king' as sending the worst kind of message of weakness and subservience. But that is exactly what Obama did in the video I posted earlier.

Protocol does not have to be followed slavishly. You know that right?

President Trump is a much stronger leader that either Obama, or Merkel. As we shall see over the next eight years. I for one will enjoy every second!

Next you will nit-pick and say 'oh the king is not a head-chopper, because he delegates that task, as is the correct protocol lol.
 
Well, once again, leaving Obama and Bush and their genuflection before Abdullah aside.....the thing about protocol is that it works in all directions.

And the lack of manners and protocol is usually the domain of banana republic dictators, tyrants and the mentally ill.

We've seen Trump struggle with this for months now. We've even seen him make fun of the whole thing by claiming that he could 'act presidential'.

So what he does and how he projects himself on the world stage matters, because otherwise he is going to not only be considered to be a joke, but will be openly treated as one and that threatens to do great damage to America's interests around the world.

What he has to ask...and what his supporters have to ask, is what is proven or gained by rudeness to one American ally and partner after another. Is there some grand design that he has in all of this? Or is it just his inability to actually exercise the self control of an adult and to perpetually act out like the sophomoric juvenile he has been for the last 55 years of his life.

I think we know the answer.

And one more time because you didn't seem to understand my previous post.....this thread is not about Obama. It is about the current president and his behaviours.

All you are doing at this point is openly engaging in derailment.
 
evelyn said:
Its a matter of interpretation. I interpret bowing to an evil, head-chopping 'king' as sending the worst kind of message of weakness and subservience. But that is exactly what Obama did in the video I posted earlier.

Protocol does not have to be followed slavishly. You know that right?
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I know protocol. It is not interpretation. There are things you do and things you don't do. That is protocol.

And I won't be baited into your baiting comment, because that's exactly what it is, and that, my friend, is against the protocol of this forum.

So, now you've successfully derailed this thread away from Trump to a 'head-chopping evil king'.

Well done. :=D:
 
Protocol does not excuse bowing down to evil.

But let's agree to disagree on that point, and move on.
 
evelyn said:
Protocol does not excuse bowing down to evil.

But let's agree to disagree on that point, and move on.
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No, I will not agree to disagree. Your Obama derail has nothing whatsoever to do with Trump's horrendous manners and complete ignorance of protocol, and his thinking and believing that he is above it when it comes to other heads of state.
 
I'm quite happy and comfortable, at this stage, to agree to disagree.

Don't worry there will be plenty of other points of disagreement, over the next eight years.
 
Just know that if your efforts to either derail or bait get too annoying, we'll just ask a mod to sort it out.
 
As I repeatedly said, I'm quite happy to agree to disagree. If you can't accept that then that is your own issue.
 
evelyn said:
As I repeatedly said, I'm quite happy to agree to disagree. If you can't accept that then that is your own issue.
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Agreeing to disagree would mean that am admitting that I am wrong and that you are right.

I will never admit that.
 
gsdx said:
Agreeing to disagree would mean that am admitting that I am wrong and that you are right.

I will never admit that.
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I thought "agree to disagree" basically meant "We're never going to agree, so why not just leave the subject"? It's nothing about forcing someone to admit they're wrong when they think they're right.
 
SaskGuy said:
I thought "agree to disagree" basically meant "We're never going to agree, so why not just leave the subject"? It's nothing about forcing someone to admit they're wrong when they think they're right.
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Perhaps we'll just agree to disagree on that.
 
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