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U.S. Engaged in Torture After 9/11, Review Concludes

Did YOU google it 'cause it looks like you didn't.
 
I lived it

Saw him talk about it

I know u know who he is :)
 
He was waterboarded 183 times and then "played down" the importance. Torture should be made of stronger stuff than that. He doesn't even sound embarrassed.
 
And so would you. But it is not a subjective standard.
 
Actually that's exactly what you are saying - you MEANT it's not an OBJECTIVE standard - you should really get a refund from the person who taught you English.
 
TX-Beau said:
Actually that's exactly what you are saying - you MEANT it's not an OBJECTIVE standard - you should really get a refund from the person who taught you English.
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No, I mean it is an objective standard,not a subjective standard. That is, that it does not become torture simply because the subject feels that he is being tortured. Roly might feel that his embarrassment is torture, but he is wrong. Objectively, embarrassment is is not torture, no matter how much the subject dislikes it. We cannot allow the subject to decide what treatment is acceptable and what is torture.
 
Since it's objective - please point us to that definition.

Oh wait, you can't because:

Benvolio said:
No one approves of torture, but we disagree about the definition. For partisan purposes, the Democrats want to include embarrassment and humiliation, as well as cultural insensitivity.
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It seems you think it' s subjective after all.

really - get an English dictionary, some advanced lessons from someone else. Witnessing your embarrassment is kinda like torture.
 
Benvolio said:
Objectively, embarrassment is is not torture
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Does embarrassment ever include an element of fear – and if yes, is fear ever torture?
 
Embarrassment is actually a significant component of torture techniques, which is way torture subjects are often stripped naked.
 
I think we as a society have dropped the idea over maybe the last two centuries that any useful information can be obtained at all through torture or any variant non-standard methods of interrogation . Bin-Ladin's chauffeur perhaps should be punished but there is simply no reason to think he knows anything of any significance at all , that as a policy torture is at all useful . It is not a matter of obtaining truth only if torture is used . Moreover I think in the setting up of the Geneva Conventions and the dropping of torture as a method of interrogation there was in part at least the attitude that all conditions were effectively reciprocal , that now American soldiers can be tortured . Now American soldiers can be tortured .
 
Moreover I think in the setting up of the Geneva Conventions and the dropping of torture as a method of interrogation there was in part at least the attitude that all conditions were effectively reciprocal , that now American soldiers can be tortured . Now American soldiers can be tortured .
 
Every single thing suggested or referred to can now be used against Americans .
 
Benvolio said:
No one approves of torture, but we disagree about the definition. For partisan purposes, the Democrats want to include embarrassment and humiliation, as well as cultural insensitivity.
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Cultural insensitivity , So would that make it ok to beat them with a frozen pork-joint ?
 
"The indisputable use of torture."

All brought to us by Halliburton.

One of the saddest days in modern history. Any moral ascendancy was irrevocably destroyed under the Bush/Cheney regime.
 
Benvolio said:
No, I mean it is an objective standard,not a subjective standard. That is, that it does not become torture simply because the subject feels that he is being tortured. Roly might feel that his embarrassment is torture, but he is wrong. Objectively, embarrassment is is not torture, no matter how much the subject dislikes it. We cannot allow the subject to decide what treatment is acceptable and what is torture.
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THE SUBJECT !!! , Wow , wish i could distance myself like that when i see anyone being hurt , imo .
 
No doubt, it is embarrassing to be arrested. Handcuffed and finger printed as well. ANY interrogation by the police is humiliating. No doubt it is humiliating to be strip searched and cavity searched. So if we allow the silly liberals to classify as "torture" anything the prisoner does not like, we are unable to protect ourselves from criminals, much less terrorists.
Since terrorists aim to kill and disrupt on a large scale, society is entitled to interrogate suspects reasonable believed to have knowledge of plans for future activities, or the wereabouts of others having such plans. Society is entirely justified in using methods of interrogation which go beyond mere question and answer. If the terrorist is humiliated, so be it.
 
"Embarrassing" a terror suspect

Can't have that

We need to build his self esteem

What planet have I landed on today ?

Lol
 
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