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I get the impression it was something more like Obama’s consent to John F. Kerry’s abstention.
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United Nations: Israeli government must stop its settlement activities in Palestine
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I get the impression it was something more like Obama’s consent to John F. Kerry’s abstention.
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I love the smell of anti-semitism in the morning...it smells like victory...at least to you.
Obama is a fucking coward. Why didn't he just throw his hatred of Israel out there boldly and vote for the resolution?
And those of you who claim to speak for "North America" do not speak for those of us in the United States.
BTW, I am pretty sure this is the only place in the Middle East where you queers could live without getting thrown off buildings or being set on fire.
Obama is a fucking coward. Why didn't he just throw his hatred of Israel out there boldly and vote for the resolution?
And those of you who claim to speak for "North America" do not speak for those of us in the United States.
BTW, I am pretty sure this is the only place in the Middle East where you queers could live without getting thrown off buildings or being set on fire.
Here is Alan Dershowitz explaining that is was Jewish before taken by Jordan in 1948, then retaken by Israel in 1967. http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016...ess-speech-and-tragic-missed-opportunity.html
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Land, and property ownership has long been a contentious source of bitter disputes between Arabs, and Jews dating back to Ottoman days, with the later (British) Mandate prohibiting land ownership by Jews in Palestine east of the Jordan River that served to concentrate and thereby intensify the effect of land purchases by Jews in Palestine west of the Jordan River.
These matters were exacerbated during the Arab Revolt 1936/1939 with the British Mandate authorities creating and arming fortified, Jewish settlements for defence against Arab armed incursions that had been financed, and equipped by Fascist Italy.
The Arab revolt was eventually quashed by British police, and military intervention leading to the Mandate authorities "separating" the two warring communities into Jewish, and Arab zones win anticipation of creating two sovereign states when the British quit the Mandate administration of Palestine.
From 1948 the Israeli Government assumed ownership of all land that had been under the ownership of the Mandate administration with the Israeli Government also issueing "security orders" to clear specific lands of Arab settlers, whose title to those lands had been the result of their settlement, and cultivation of those lands. With the removal of the Arab settlers leading to non cultivation of those lands, the Israeli Government assumed full legal title, leading to the ongoing antagonism between Arabs, and Jews that centre on the ownership of land.
Encroaching Jewish settlements on historically owned Arab zones is playing into the hands of the extremists on both sides of the divide with a growing awareness that acquisition of previously settled Arab zones will continue to exacerbate the ongoing acrimonious "war" between the Arabs. and the Jews that continues to add fuel to the longstanding disagreements with The West reaching back some one hundred years to The Balfour Declaration.
It is noteworthy that the United States continues to be a massive provider of military, and financial aid to Israel.
Land, and property ownership has long been a contentious source of bitter disputes between Arabs, and Jews dating back to Ottoman days, with the later (British) Mandate prohibiting land ownership by Jews in Palestine east of the Jordan River that served to concentrate and thereby intensify the effect of land purchases by Jews in Palestine west of the Jordan River.
These matters were exacerbated during the Arab Revolt 1936/1939 with the British Mandate authorities creating and arming fortified, Jewish settlements for defence against Arab armed incursions that had been financed, and equipped by Fascist Italy.
The Arab revolt was eventually quashed by British police, and military intervention leading to the Mandate authorities "separating" the two warring communities into Jewish, and Arab zones win anticipation of creating two sovereign states when the British quit the Mandate administration of Palestine.
From 1948 the Israeli Government assumed ownership of all land that had been under the ownership of the Mandate administration with the Israeli Government also issueing "security orders" to clear specific lands of Arab settlers, whose title to those lands had been the result of their settlement, and cultivation of those lands. With the removal of the Arab settlers leading to non cultivation of those lands, the Israeli Government assumed full legal title, leading to the ongoing antagonism between Arabs, and Jews that centre on the ownership of land.
Encroaching Jewish settlements on historically owned Arab zones is playing into the hands of the extremists on both sides of the divide with a growing awareness that acquisition of previously settled Arab zones will continue to exacerbate the ongoing acrimonious "war" between the Arabs. and the Jews that continues to add fuel to the longstanding disagreements with The West reaching back some one hundred years to The Balfour Declaration.
It is noteworthy that the United States continues to be a massive provider of military, and financial aid to Israel.
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There is nothing anti Jewish in the UN Resolution with the United States, France, and the UK continuing to supply Israel with military hardware.
The UN Resolution was also supported by France, and The United Kingdom nations that continue with their practical support of Israel. The matter here is of The West being obliged to consider its relationship with several Middle Eastern nations, and minority extremist elements in Israel demanding expansion of Israel's land ownership. The matter is further exercerbated by Netanyahu's insistence upon The West going to war with Iran in order to remove the Ayatollah controlled Iranian government. No government in The West supports this extreme position knowing that Iran is cooperating with The West towards the destruction of the Islamic States agenda to create a Middle Eastern Caliphate.
He neglects to mention how brief the period prior to 1948 was for, nor the area's history prior.
Many countries can point to brief periods in time when they laid claim to various territories... But they can't legitimately claim ownership on that basis. Look at Poland's growing and shrinking borders throughout history for example.
It doesn't mean Poland can establish settlements in Germany and the Ukraine without opposition.
It's the hard right within Israel who are campaigning for the settlements, as well as a single state.
Quit granting yourself victim status for a moment. If you make a sweeping statement that condemns a billion people on the basis of the actions of a few then you are being ________phobic (insert applicable group).
1) We're Americans first.
2) Most American Jews don't side with the right on this issue. The government of Israel is flat out wrong to endanger the peace process by building settlements in the West Bank - the most antagonistic thing they could possibly do. It's a miracle another war hasn't broken out already.
3) Most American Jews, being urban, secular, and enlightened, naturally side with the opposition "two-state solution" parties in the Knesset.
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Most Israeli Jews are also sufficiently enlightened to continue to support the two sovereign states solution.
Netanyahu is clearly playing to his shrinking domestic electorate when choosing to be so hostile towards President Obama, and Secretary Kerry.
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What the Fuck?
Britain has the balls to scold Kerry and the US?
What fucking hypocrisy.
And good on them if the US declining to use the veto caught them off guard...because it meant they couldn't have everything both ways.
Grow the fuck up. Theresa.
Britain has the balls to scold Kerry and the US?
What fucking hypocrisy.
And good on them if the US declining to use the veto caught them off guard...because it meant they couldn't have everything both ways.
Grow the fuck up. Theresa.
Britain got caught up in a similar conflict in Ireland, didn't they? or is it not a fair comparison?
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Theresa May is simply brown nosing Trump.
Reading May's comments in detail suggests that UK, and USA policies on Israel are virtually the same.
Reading May's comments in detail suggests that UK, and USA policies on Israel are virtually the same.
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^ It is what makes May's comments so nakedly hypocritical and self-serving.
As I noted...I have to hope that Britain was also caught off-guard on the vote...because it exposes all of the members who get to vote to censure Israel, knowing that they are always protected by the US veto for the spineless and ineffectual snivellers that they are.
As I noted...I have to hope that Britain was also caught off-guard on the vote...because it exposes all of the members who get to vote to censure Israel, knowing that they are always protected by the US veto for the spineless and ineffectual snivellers that they are.
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Theresa May's comments read in detail do not deviate from the standard Western response that has evidenced UK, and USA policies over the past decades. May's mistake was evident in her desire to suck up to Trump, rather than in any deviation from the predictable joint responses of American, and British governments to the Israel/Arab tragedy.
May leads a Conservative Party that is deeply divided on Brexit, and is well aware that she may face an internal coup to remove her, should she not demonstrate better leadership. May is well aware that Thatcher was removed by her own cabinet colleagues.
May leads a Conservative Party that is deeply divided on Brexit, and is well aware that she may face an internal coup to remove her, should she not demonstrate better leadership. May is well aware that Thatcher was removed by her own cabinet colleagues.
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There's no relationship for the ongoing Irish troubles should have been resolved by the Irish in 1922 when Ireland was granted independence, with the six counties electing to remain within the UK with its own government, and parliament as Northern Ireland. The UK would be very happy with NI joining the ROI but the local population persist in voting to remain within the UK.
Democracy is not always generous with common sense solutions to centuries of tribal conflicts.
