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United States Presidential Election, 2020.

Stardreamer said:
Biden is actually leading in Texas though Trump is closing the gap at 55% of the vote.

I'm not going to get my hopes up but if Biden takes Texas it is all over.
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Fortunately, Texas and Florida were never part of the Biden strategy. Meaning they are not States that Biden depends on to win.
 
Pennsylvania is currently RED on the election map, but the number of votes counted so far from MONTGOMERY, BUCKS, PHILADELPHIA, CHESTER, DELAWARE, ALLEGANY Counties are still VERY low. (I think Philadelphia County was the highest count-so-far of all of those, and it's at only 22%.) More than 30% of votes statewide have been counted.

These counties include Pittsburgh, and ALL of Philadelphia and its suburbs.

Likewise, in Georgia, FULTON, DEKALB, COBB are undercounted - but I don't think the results will be enough to flip that state.
 
frankfrank said:
Pennsylvania is currently RED on the election map, but the number of votes counted so far from MONTGOMERY, BUCKS, PHILADELPHIA, CHESTER, DELAWARE, ALLEGANY Counties are still VERY low. (I think Philadelphia County was the highest count-so-far of all of those, and it's at only 22%.) More than 30% of votes statewide have been counted.

These counties include Pittsburgh, and ALL of Philadelphia and its suburbs.

Likewise, in Georgia, FULTON, DEKALB, COBB are undercounted - but I don't think the results will be enough to flip that state.
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Not red. Pink. Only 40% of the votes counted so far. So...
 
I know that it is still too early to call and that in swing states only 50% or so have been counted. But damn it is making me nervous to see Trump leading in all the swing states.

Guys, I think this might be a repeat of 2016.
 
aristomaniac said:
I know that it is still too early to call and that in swing states only 50% or so have been counted. But damn it is making me nervous to see Trump leading in all the swing states.

Guys, I think this might be a repeat of 2016.
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Think or hope ?
 
Hola people. I'm taking time out of my post election frenzy binge drinking to stop in here - we were warned about this. You see some places with 90 or more percent of precincts reporting and no one has called the state yet. The fight to toss out the absentee ballots not yet counted has already begun. AP has it 223 Biden 118 what the fuck you racist fucks.

Now back to my previously scheduled single malt.
 
I'm watching the New York Post's map -- Virginia keeps flipping. Oddly, it currently shows Trump leading but it's been called for Biden; the numbers show 80% counted but there's no geographical breakdown.

If all the "leaning Trump" states on that map go that, way, Trump wins with 292.

I'm not sure, but I still think it could come out to a tie, which would be interesting in a constitutional sort of way: it would go to the House, but the way the rules go for that there's a chance the House could deadlock, in which case it would go to the Senate....
 
I just read an article that says something that gives me some hope.

All the votes that have been counted are the ones casted today. Surprisingly, the early votes and mail-in's will be counted after the ones casted in person today on election day. And everyone knows those who voted early tend to lean toward Biden while those who vote in person on election day tend to lean toward Trump.

In other words, the real numbers won't come in until tomorrow.

That said, I'm going to bed. Got a dentist appointment in the morning.
 
aristomaniac said:
All the votes that have been counted are the ones casted today. Surprisingly, the early votes and mail-in's will be counted after the ones casted in person today on election day. And everyone knows those who voted early tend to lean toward Biden while those who vote in person on election day tend to lean toward Trump.

In other words, the real numbers won't come in until tomorrow.
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I'm not sure exactly what happens with what gets counted--I gather there may be state to state variation--but I definitely have heard warnings that we may not have reliable numbers until after Election Day. I think may have heard it could even be days. And, of course, if courts get involved, it could drag out.
 
me203 said:
I'm not sure exactly what happens with what gets counted--I gather there may be state to state variation--but I definitely have heard warnings that we may not have reliable numbers until after election day. I think may have heard it could even be days. And, of course, if courts get involved, it could drag out.
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It probably depends on the location. I know that back when I got to be an observer when ballots were counted the ones mailed in had already been distributed to the precincts and the moment the ballots from the ballot boxes were finished they started right in on the others. So a lot will depend on whether the counters take a break between the various sets of votes plus how fast they count.
 
me203 said:
I'm not sure exactly what happens with what gets counted--I gather there may be state to state variation--but I definitely have heard warnings that we may not have reliable numbers until after Election Day. I think may have heard it could even be days. And, of course, if courts get involved, it could drag out.
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PA is one such state where the ballots casted today are counted first before the mail-ins and earlies get counted. Before this year, the in-person votes on election day alone was enough for a candidate to lock in because there were never enough mail-ins and earlies to offset the election day votes. This year is different in that there were so many early and mail-in votes that these could actually offset the election day votes.

As of now 1:30AM EST only 64% of votes in PA have been reported.

This gives me hope.

That said, I'm scared this might be another 2016. And I'm not the only one. Democratic strategists are all scared right now.

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I just played around with the numbers. At this point, assuming all the pink states leaning Trump goes to Trump, All Biden has to do is lock in WI and MI and he will have 271, just enough to win. This assumes that PA and every other pink states goes to Trump.
 
^ Also, I forgot to mention. The reason PA is still too early to call is because there are still 2M votes not counted yet. About 1M of that is from a dem stronghold. If PA goes to Biden, then it's game over for Trump.
 
Georgia is tightening up as Biden has cut the Trump lead to 118,000 with still significant votes coming in from strongly Democratic areas.
 
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