US Hits Another Milestone -- 1200 Days Without a Budget -- 8-11-2012

[Sausy]

So this is the defense?What of the first two years of the Obama administration?Anyone fucking want to lead for the Administration side?So long as the GOP controls the House the Dems can just twiddle their thumbs ?I bet you a Republican president had a Democratic House,and the obstructionists here would be sanctimoniously,smugly sending budgets that never have a hope to be passed?Fuck the progressives AND conservatives.....we need a party of the center that responsibly governs,not plots political machinations and maneuvers to screw everyone else.And to those defending the Democratic Party here, or Republican, without reservation.... soon somebody adult will put up an honorable centrist agenda, and I can't wait to shove the progressive left out the door as well as the backward sectors running the GOP. It's OUR country,not that of the political elites and the bases they brown nose to. It's time for a real clean sweep in Washington,DC....and the sheeple here are the partisans left and right who can't see their heros on the right and left are as much part of the problem as getting them out is the start of a real solution.

 

[Kyanimal]

Hey, Sausy!

I'm hearing you, Bud!

I was born, and raised, a Republican. Some members of my family were quite high up in the GOP of yore. However, the current day Republican'ts are not even near a reflection of the party whose name they claim.

Today's politics are so divisive, so stubborn, so contentious, that I'm surprised the Government is functioning at all! (OH, Wait! They almost weren't not too long ago! Remember that whole deficit debacle?)

At least the Left has been trying to at least Appear as though they're willing to govern by consensus. The Right vocally doesn't give a damn as in it's their way or the highway.

Unfortunately, a clean sweep of D.C. would only, likely, leave us with what we have already. What we need, instead, is an informed, intelligent, electorate that is not so easily swayed by the latest, most sensational, "shiny thing".

May "Goodness" Help Us!

All the more reasons to ... no matter what ... try the best you can to ...

Keep smilin'!!
Chaz

 

[JayHawk]

Sausy, What happened to even keeled and level headed? You sound a bit angry.

 

[Rolyo85]

So this is the defense?What of the first two years of the Obama administration?Anyone fucking want to lead for the Administration side?So long as the GOP controls the House the Dems can just twiddle their thumbs ?I bet you a Republican president had a Democratic House,and the obstructionists here would be sanctimoniously,smugly sending budgets that never have a hope to be passed?Fuck the progressives AND conservatives.....we need a party of the center that responsibly governs,not plots political machinations and maneuvers to screw everyone else.And to those defending the Democratic Party here, or Republican, without reservation.... soon somebody adult will put up an honorable centrist agenda, and I can't wait to shove the progressive left out the door as well as the backward sectors running the GOP. It's OUR country,not that of the political elites and the bases they brown nose to. It's time for a real clean sweep in Washington,DC....and the sheeple here are the partisans left and right who can't see their heros on the right and left are as much part of the problem as getting them out is the start of a real solution.

To claim both parties are equally obstructionist is insane. Could you please show me any Democrat pledges to always vote this or that way regardless of context, where doing otherwise would endanger your political career? One is a party. Might be deeply flawed, but it's still a party. The other one is a cult, and it's derailing the political process because it acts like a cult. "The democrats would do the same" doesn't ring true, and you know it. They wouldn't because they are still actual politicians who want to achieve goals. Normal, non-cultist people know this only works with a level of compromise with the opposition, or everything grinds to a halt. Kind of like right now...

 

[hotatlboi]

This nonsense again.

There's been a budget passed every year, the government cannot operate without a budget.

 

[evanrick]

trying to be non-partisan here but the blame clearly falls on the republicans. the republicans are known obstructionists, if the democrats saw any benefit to passing a budget they would do so, but to pass a republican budget in the senate by democrats, only to have it vetoed by a democrat president seems like a useless exercise.

if republicans in the house had a responsible budget, one that didnt include more tax breaks for those who didnt ask for them and dont need them, then there might be a starting point. but i dont see how this is any different than the republicans abusing the filibuster, democrats control DC not republicans.

 

[Ninja108]

The Democrats aren't the one who came out and stated their goal was to ensure a president remained a one term one.

 

[Jack Springer]

trying to be non-partisan here but the blame clearly falls on the republicans. the republicans are known obstructionists, if the democrats saw any benefit to passing a budget they would do so, but to pass a republican budget in the senate by democrats, only to have it vetoed by a democrat president seems like a useless exercise.

if republicans in the house had a responsible budget, one that didnt include more tax breaks for those who didnt ask for them and dont need them, then there might be a starting point. but i dont see how this is any different than the republicans abusing the filibuster, democrats control DC not republicans.

What's the excuse for the House not providing a budget when Pelosi and the democrats were in power? Republican obstructionists again.

You may have fallen into the trap of hearing a lie often enough where you accept it as the truth.

Also the Senate can work with the House after a budget has been sent to them by the House -- this was not even attempted.

 

[frankfrank]

The Democrats aren't the one who came out and stated their goal was to ensure a president remained a one term one.

The Democrats also aren't the Party who came to the 112th Congress to represent only a small handful of people, as the Death Party has vowed absolute unconditional allegiance (i.e. representation) to Grover Nordquist, the corporations, the rich, bigots, and Paul Ryan. (TO HELL WITH EVERYBODY ELSE! Just get sick and die, please.) And, surprise surprise, they got the latter guy into a position where he could be President.

 

[Stardreamer]

trying to be non-partisan here but the blame clearly falls on the republicans. the republicans are known obstructionists, if the democrats saw any benefit to passing a budget they would do so, but to pass a republican budget in the senate by democrats, only to have it vetoed by a democrat president seems like a useless exercise.

if republicans in the house had a responsible budget, one that didnt include more tax breaks for those who didnt ask for them and dont need them, then there might be a starting point. but i dont see how this is any different than the republicans abusing the filibuster, democrats control DC not republicans.

Then don't pass the house version, write your own version and send it back to the house for reconciliation, that how its supposed to work, going back and forth till a reasonable compromise is found.

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The Democrats aren't the one who came out and stated their goal was to ensure a president remained a one term one.

So at no point between 2000 and 2004 did any Democrat say that George Bush should be a one term president?

 

[Rolyo85]

Well they didn't dedicate their entire party to that one goal sacrificing the country to that effect. They might have disliked Bush, but they did work with him. Can you say the same for the Republicans? Can you give a relevant example of the GOP working with Obama for something important, rather than just dig their heels in the ground and say NO?

 

[chance1]

THE WORD IS OUT

that Harry Reid and the Dems - think Martha and the Vandellas

cannot
willnot
can't

do a budget

do they know excel?

do they have graph paper?

a calculator?

the word is out that the senate dems can't add much less subtract or divide

you would think there would be a baseline test to get in

i guess not

 

[LuvFindsAndyHardy]

So at no point between 2000 and 2004 did any Democrat say that George Bush should be a one term president?

Nice try but the quote is not "Obama should be a one term president."

The quote is:

"The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president"
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and it happened LESS than two years into his presidency. Please note the words SINGLE, MOST and IMPORTANT. Can you find the Democratic Obstructionist equivalent of THAT?

 

[chance1]

^ excessively ruffled panties clearly

(pictures luv with hands on hips head tilted)

 

[LuvFindsAndyHardy]

^ excessively ruffled panties clearly

(pictures luv with hands on hips head tilted)

Hahahahahahahahahah!!! Perhaps the red WAS too much!!

PS...EMPTY YOUR MAILBOX!!

 

[rareboy]

Nice try but the quote is not "Obama should be a one term president."

The quote is:

"The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president"
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and it happened LESS than two years into his presidency. Please note the words SINGLE, MOST and IMPORTANT. Can you find the Democratic Obstructionist equivalent of THAT?

It was an almost treasonous statement.

What kind of a party would sacrifice the health and prosperity of their country by making this their only goal for the legislative branch?

It demonstrated the moral bankruptcy of Mitch and his cabal and made it very clear that they could not and cannot be trusted.

 

[Stardreamer]

Well they didn't dedicate their entire party to that one goal sacrificing the country to that effect. They might have disliked Bush, but they did work with him. Can you say the same for the Republicans? Can you give a relevant example of the GOP working with Obama for something important, rather than just dig their heels in the ground and say NO?

No they didn't and good for them but that is a difference of strategy, the current Republican strategy is horrendous and much of the reason Congress and the country is failing. But that is different from implying that Democrats never have a goal of removing a Republican President. They almost always have that goal even if they cooperating with him.

 

[Stardreamer]

Nice try but the quote is not "Obama should be a one term president."

The quote is:

"The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president"
​

and it happened LESS than two years into his presidency. Please note the words SINGLE, MOST and IMPORTANT. Can you find the Democratic Obstructionist equivalent of THAT?

I suspect I could if I thought it relevant enough to bother to research it, every party has a goal of putting their guy in the White House and winning. Obstructionism is a political tactic as old as politics and I'm sure both parties engage in it on and off though I will agree that the Republicans are taking it to excessive damaging lengths currently. I normally favor grid lock in the Congress since I honestly feel that an overly active Congress is bad for Americans but even I think this is going to far.

 

[jackoroe]

This nonsense again.

There's been a budget passed every year, the government cannot operate without a budget.

Great! Give us a cite to the Senate vote on the budget wherein one was passed and sent to the president for his signature while Obama has been in office. We'll all be waiting patiently.

It isn't nonsense, but a fact.

 

[Stardreamer]

This nonsense again.

There's been a budget passed every year, the government cannot operate without a budget.

They are essentially folding on the budget and passing makeshift bills called continuing resolutions that just say keep spending what you spent last year.