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USA tipping culture

Some very good answers to the primary question; but I don't think anyone talked about the custom(s).....

......and, here in the U.S.; especially La$ Vega$, the Internal Revenue actually goes by a scale to tax those tips especially in the Casino gaming industry whereby people will leave a large tip "if" they win big.

Here's some of the historical signifigance:

A tip (also called a gratuity) is a payment made to certain service sector workers in addition to the advertised price of the transaction. The amount of a tip is typically calculated as a percentage of the transaction value before applicable taxes...

Such payments and their size are a matter of social custom. Tipping varies among cultures and by service industry. Though by definition a tip is never legally required, and its amount is at the discretion of the person being served, in some circumstances
failing to give an adequate tip when one is expected may be considered very miserly, a violation of etiquette, or unethical.

In some other cultures or situations, giving a tip is not expected and offering one would be considered condescending or demeaning. In some circumstances (such as tipping government workers), tipping is illegal.


Etymologists trace the word "tipping" back to the street language of the medieval era, when it meant "hand it over." (It sort of means the same thing today.)

In 1972, an anthropology professor linked the words "gratuity" and "tip" in various languages to the act of imbibing. Each can be literally translated into terms that pertain to drinking -- tringeld in German, pourboire in French, for example. The Dutch word
tippen (calling for service by tapping on a table) and the Latin word stips (meaning "gift") may also be related.


Whatever the origin of the word, the practice probably goes back to the first time one Neanderthal held a rock open for another Neanderthal. Or at least, as some evidence suggests, to the Roman Empire.

The term has also been linked (though not by all word
historians) to 18th-century England, where eating and drinking establishments put out brass urns inscribed with the phrase "To Insure Promptitude" (T.I.P.) for customers to leave money in.

Tipping spread widely in the U.S. after the Civil War, despite those "who considered it a toxic vestige of Old World patronage." Back then, the practice was actually banned by six states.

Not so today. Last week we spotted a tip jar sitting on the counter at our dry cleaners.

What's next?

Tipping for a good BJ??????? lol (*8*):kiss:

Hmmmmmmmmm! Nahhhhhhhhhhh.......
 
It's really simple here.
A "standard tip" is already included in every bill. IF the service was nice you can add more to it.
So the waiters are sure to get their money, and if they are good they get some more. But some places even write on their menu "please do not tip the personel, service is included in your bill". Never got why they do it, but I usually respect it.
But in the end - service sucks here big time anyway ;)
 
Some very good answers to the primary question; but I don't think anyone talked about the custom(s).....

......and, here in the U.S.; especially La$ Vega$, the Internal Revenue actually goes by a scale to tax those tips especially in the Casino gaming industry whereby people will leave a large tip "if" they win big.

Here's some of the historical signifigance:

A tip (also called a gratuity) is a payment made to certain service sector workers in addition to the advertised price of the transaction. The amount of a tip is typically calculated as a percentage of the transaction value before applicable taxes...

Such payments and their size are a matter of social custom. Tipping varies among cultures and by service industry. Though by definition a tip is never legally required, and its amount is at the discretion of the person being served, in some circumstances
failing to give an adequate tip when one is expected may be considered very miserly, a violation of etiquette, or unethical.

In some other cultures or situations, giving a tip is not expected and offering one would be considered condescending or demeaning. In some circumstances (such as tipping government workers), tipping is illegal.


Etymologists trace the word "tipping" back to the street language of the medieval era, when it meant "hand it over." (It sort of means the same thing today.)

In 1972, an anthropology professor linked the words "gratuity" and "tip" in various languages to the act of imbibing. Each can be literally translated into terms that pertain to drinking -- tringeld in German, pourboire in French, for example. The Dutch word
tippen (calling for service by tapping on a table) and the Latin word stips (meaning "gift") may also be related.


Whatever the origin of the word, the practice probably goes back to the first time one Neanderthal held a rock open for another Neanderthal. Or at least, as some evidence suggests, to the Roman Empire.

The term has also been linked (though not by all word
historians) to 18th-century England, where eating and drinking establishments put out brass urns inscribed with the phrase "To Insure Promptitude" (T.I.P.) for customers to leave money in.

Tipping spread widely in the U.S. after the Civil War, despite those "who considered it a toxic vestige of Old World patronage." Back then, the practice was actually banned by six states.

Not so today. Last week we spotted a tip jar sitting on the counter at our dry cleaners.

What's next?

Tipping for a good BJ??????? lol (*8*):kiss:

Hmmmmmmmmm! Nahhhhhhhhhhh.......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tip

cockatles, If you are going to quote from an outside source you should include the location of where you got the information so as to properly site the information.

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I have never had a problem with tipping no matter where I am in the world. I guess over here (Australia) I have a couple of standards depending on what is happening. If I am dining at a restaurant I usually leave around the 10% mark. At a bar I usually leave a dollar for a drink but not always. With taxi rides I usually round the fare up to the nearest whole dollar.

The thing that gets me about tips, especially in Australia is that tips are spilt equally amongst all the staff so giving a specific waiter a tip that is just for them, from my perspective is not something that happens an awful lot.

The one place that I have never tipped would be Gloria Jeans and Starbucks.

I am about to go to Malaysia and I know that a 10% service charge is included in most places so that will be fine as my tip.

I am sorry but if there is a service charge included on the bill they no one will get an additional tip. That is just how I am.

From my perspective a tip is given for good service and should not be expected.
 
I have been in the "service" industry, and have relatives that were in the service industry years ago. Originally, tips were an indicator of the service the customer got. If the server gave good service, the customer would reward you with a tip. If the service was attrocious, the customer could leave one penny. You don't want to with hold the tip, because the server could imply that the customer forgot or couldn't afford to leave a tip. Over the years, restaruants came up with the idea that they didn't have to pay as much to the servers because they got tips. Finally, the government in the US realized that these tips were untaxed income and started requiring servers to report their tips. It has become expected instead of being a reward for good service. There are places that add the tip onto the bill, and it seems like when the tip is automatically added to the bill, the service is horrible. I had a server in a resturaunt short me my change, and when I brought it to her attention, she made some comment like "Oh weren't you going to leave me a tip anyway". EXCUSE ME, NO I am still the person who decides whether or not the service deserves a tip. She didn't get a tip, and not just because she pulled that stunt, but because the service was bad. She got one cent.

I have become an opponant of tipping from my experiences. Tips should not be an excuse for not paying a living wage. They shouldn't be counted as taxable income. Tips should be bonus. If the person doesn't give good service, they shouldn't expect a tip.
 
I have been in the "service" industry, and have relatives that were in the service industry years ago. Originally, tips were an indicator of the service the customer got. If the server gave good service, the customer would reward you with a tip. If the service was attrocious, the customer could leave one penny. You don't want to with hold the tip, because the server could imply that the customer forgot or couldn't afford to leave a tip. Over the years, restaruants came up with the idea that they didn't have to pay as much to the servers because they got tips. Finally, the government in the US realized that these tips were untaxed income and started requiring servers to report their tips. It has become expected instead of being a reward for good service. There are places that add the tip onto the bill, and it seems like when the tip is automatically added to the bill, the service is horrible. I had a server in a resturaunt short me my change, and when I brought it to her attention, she made some comment like "Oh weren't you going to leave me a tip anyway". EXCUSE ME, NO I am still the person who decides whether or not the service deserves a tip. She didn't get a tip, and not just because she pulled that stunt, but because the service was bad. She got one cent.

I have become an opponant of tipping from my experiences. Tips should not be an excuse for not paying a living wage. They shouldn't be counted as taxable income. Tips should be bonus. If the person doesn't give good service, they shouldn't expect a tip.
see thats funny.:badgrin:

wondering if doctors get any tips after he measure blood pressure and sayiing good bye . ;)
 
Many countries have a service charge listed on the menu.

North America does not.

They leave it up to the customer to decide whether the service was worth a tip or not.

I tip 15%-20% depending on the size of the bill.

It isn't begging.
 
everyone seems to miss about electronic card payments.

How would one tip on that one to the hotel workers, door man, waiters ... etc if most of you guys carry cards and NO cash ?
 
everyone seems to miss about electronic card payments.

How would one tip on that one to the hotel workers, door man, waiters ... etc if most of you guys carry cards and NO cash ?

Even though most of us do use a credit/debit card to pay for everything, almost everyone is carrying around some cash. Personally, if I know I am going somewhere that I am going to need to do some tipping, I make sure that I am carrying some small bills with me. However, I find that generally whenever I am tipping someone, it is for a service that is being paid for with a credit card anyway - so I rarely run into the issue above. My exception for tipping however is at any fast food establishment or coffee shop.
 
everyone seems to miss about electronic card payments.

How would one tip on that one to the hotel workers, door man, waiters ... etc if most of you guys carry cards and NO cash ?

Cash still is the #1 method to pay here.
But if you pay with a card, you just leave some extra cash.
 
It's no use questioning it Telstra, just thank your stars that we don't have do this ridiculous ritual everytime we order a coffee at a cafe.
 
It's no use questioning it Telstra, just thank your stars that we don't have do this ridiculous ritual everytime we order a coffee at a cafe.

its good to know different customs even tho we all speak English. ;)

to avoid tipping in the US always carry Electronic cards .:p
 
its good to know different customs even tho we all speak English. ;)

to avoid tipping in the US always carry Electronic cards .:p

But seeing as tipping is customary here you wouldn't want to avoid it unless you are a real cheap bastard or receive really terrible service. Even though it may seem weird to you it is part of daily life in North America. It just works differently over here thats all, no big mystery.
 
what about poor people over there,
Do they still tip ?

Also the shopper holics in shopping centers, do they tip the shop assistent ?
 
I would say yes, probably not as much and again it is usually relative to the bill. For instance in restaurants it is usually 15% of the bill so it is all relative. We do not tip in fast food restaurants like McDonalds or stuff like that, it is usually in restaurants were you sit down and are served a meal by a waiter or waitress. Most coffee shops will have a tip jar at the counter but not everyone tips there.

As for other stuff taxis I usually give a $1 or $2 tip, the pizza delivery guy I usually give $2, for the really cute guy who cuts my hair I will give him $5 on a $30 haircut. It is not like it is law that you have to tip but it is just the way it works over here and people are used to it.

I guess it would seem funny to someone who comes from somewhere where tipping is not the norm.
 
give tip to the hair cut seems stupid.
$30 hair cut. Where is that money gone to ? to the hair cutter of course.

$30 USD for hair cut is over priced anyway. Here $20 AUD max for hair cut and no tip is needed.
 
I work at a grocery store, and at times our store policy is to escort every customer out to their car no matter what. we usually gets tips in these circumstances, even though we are still being paid at least minimum wage. I just hadnt seen bag boys mentioned thus far, so I thought I'd go ahead and put my thoughts in.

I tip when:
-eating at a restaurant
-pizza delivery
-package delivery
-taxi cabs
-gettin a haircut

I'm sure there are tons of others, but since I do not spend money or go out often, I don't really tip others in that respect.
 
give tip to the hair cut seems stupid.
$30 hair cut. Where is that money gone to ? to the hair cutter of course.

$30 USD for hair cut is over priced anyway. Here $20 AUD max for hair cut and no tip is needed.

Most of that money, of course depends on where you go, goes to the store itself, or to the chain franchise etc etc...My sister use to do hair styling, and she said tips helped her out a shitload while in college...she got paid right at minimum wage and said that without the tips, she would have to beg the parents instead.
 
Here's something that always sticks in my craw when the tipping question comes up: WHY DOES IT HAVE TO MAKE SENSE? Do all Australian or German or Japanese customs make sense? Are they each and every one grounded in carefully considered rationales?

No, they are not. I'm sure you all have perfectly arbitrary and confusing-to-Americans rules of conduct. It doesn't matter why the customs are there, it only matters whether or not you observe them. If you come to America, find out who you're supposed to tip and how much before you leave home, and arrive prepared. Or else offend the local culture. Those are your choices.

Being prepared is important when you travel. You know you're going to have a lot of luggage and will need the services of a redcap when you get to the airport, so you put five dollars in your pocket for said redcap; when you get to your hotel, if you need a bellhop, you have a five for him, too. Don't want to tip? Carry your own luggage. You will also have to tip the taxi-driver that takes you between the two places; if you don't want to tip a driver, take a bus.

I mean, pretty much anyplace where you are expected to tip can be avoided. Don't want to shell out an extra 15% at the restaurant? Eat somewhere without table service. Don't want to tip the hairdresser or the manicurist? Perform those services on yourself.

To answer the question about using cards instead of cash, most restaurants and quite a few other service places will leave a spot on the credit slip for you to add a tip. But you should always carry some cash at all times, especially when you're far from home. I mean, what happens if there's a blackout? Or you find something you want to buy or eat in a place that doesn't take cards? (there are still quite a few such places around). Like I said, always be prepared.
 
just wondering if you guys tip ebay or amazon sellers , online "minimum wage workers ... ;)
 
give tip to the hair cut seems stupid.
$30 hair cut. Where is that money gone to ? to the hair cutter of course.

$30 USD for hair cut is over priced anyway. Here $20 AUD max for hair cut and no tip is needed.

Again Telstra to you it seems stupid, because you are not use to it but like I mentioned over here it is standard practice. I could get a hair cut for as cheap as $10 but I choose to go to a hair salon where I feel I am getting a better cut. And no tip is needed there because that is not they way it works in Australia.

It is not stupid just a different way of doing things. I am sure there are some practices in Australia that us North Americans would find bizarre, but that's just the way it is. Different places have different customs. Boy you seem to be having a hard time wrapping your head around this one. LOL.
 
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