USA tipping culture

[pixie77]

Those workers are getting paid to do the job. If they don't like the pay level, get another joib. Why should I pay their salary?

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[belamy]

BELAMY: the difference between tipping waiters, hairdressers, et. al, and tipping doctors is this:

Waiters and hairdressers often make minimum wage (as little as $2 per hour) and depend upon those tips for a living; doctors, et. al. are paid boo-coo bucks, and do not depend on tips.

Johan, we all know how things ARE: we where talking about why many thing that they MUST be like that. I'm not talking about turning the world upside round, only about THINKING, for fuck's sake... to swallow things "as they are" or "as they have always been" I could stay happily in Spain or in China or Afghanistan.
BTW I forgot to add this before: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_services

http://www.lunawebs.com/img/logo_portfolio/logo-financial-services-l.jpg

 

[belamy]

Personally, as a former waiter and present customer, I'd much prefer to be in a place where tipping was not customary. I'm sure service is just as efficient in Australia, for example as it is in the United States. And it would be particularly gratifying to get stellar service in such a place, because the server would be doing it because they WANTED to, not because they HAD to.

As for why things MUST be the way they are, I'm afraid I don't have an answer for you—they just ARE. I don't think it's possible at this late date to change traditions that have been handed down to us through 200+ years...

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[Lukeee]

Most places I go to I would expect that the staff would be paid quite well and so I don't feel the need to pay half of their wage.

I am not too fussed about my money though as there is plenty of it so I don't collect my change and they normally get £3 to £7 out of me.

If I were in America I would have to ask them how much to tip them which I think would be quite embarrassing.

 

[belamy]

Johan, we all know how things ARE: we where talking about why many thing that they MUST be like that.

Did I write THAT?!! However, I love it, it's the loveliest broken English I've read in ages

we were talking about why things MUST be like they are.

 

[Telstra]

I would like to point out that the first time I travelled in Europe, I found it absurd that there was a 15%-18% cover charge on restaurant meals noted on the menus.

So, it is all a matter of perspective.

I don't know why it always seems that Australians and/or the Brits make such a big fucking deal out of the custom of tipping in North America and why the North Americans are always on the defensive about it.

It works.

Stop whining. And when you come to the US or Canada, be prepared to tip.

Or else we'll put pubes in your meal.

Because you feel that you already paid for a $30 hair cut for example. Why do you need to pay more. That $30 should go to the cutter (1/3 of it at least).


No wonder the CEOs charge their own tipping fee of 20 to 30% = to millions of dollars for their fees.

 

[TygreBryte]

...as if you were Mr. Marquis of High-Maintenance....

 

[Alpha1851]

Those workers are getting paid to do the job. If they don't like the pay level, get another joib. Why should I pay their salary?

B/c allegedly, we're paying smaller prices for the service b/c we're expected to tip. The company can afford to charge us a smaller amount b/c they aren't required to pay their employees as much as any other business. Again allegedly, if we forced these business to pay their employees minimum wage or higher, the prices would skyrocket. Allegedly. That's the argument anyway.

I tip at least 15% even if the service was rotten. Things can wrong in any situation. For instance, in a restaurant scenario, maybe it's the cooks fault that the order was slow, maybe the server is new, maybe someone's just having a bad day, maybe they are short staffed, who knows. I realize that people who work for tips aren't getting paid minimum wage and they rely on tips to supplement that income. I see no need for them to go hungry or not be able to afford their rent just b/c I'm not absolutely thrilled w/ the service (which is so subjective). I tip at least 20% if I'm at all satisfied. My beau is far more stringent than I am.

 

[belamy]

You should tip 20% of your total bill if the service was excellent.

If it was less than excellent, but good, 10-15%

If it was very bad, leave a penny so they know you didn't just forget to tip.

Don't take out the kitchen staff's mistake on a server if it wasn't their fault. If you don't leave, and you eventually get what you ordered, tip according to the server's performance. Complain to the management about the mistakes. Send an email to corporate and you'll get a coupon.

The rule of thumb is: if you can't afford to tip, you can't afford to eat at such a restaurant. Go to fastfood or eat at home.

I lurve your signatures with shady figures backlit at dusk The one with a guy/guys with arms and legs wide open is one of my favorites ever in this site.

 

[Beachguyj]

That's a ridiculous situation; I'm surprised that it is not illegal to pay so little. Whatever happeened to the minimum wage?

They make up for the difference in tips. In theory the restaurant has to pay employees the difference if they do make an average of less than minimum wage for that week. I've never worked in a restaurant where anyone earned less than minimum wage. I did work at a hotel restaurant and one night and it was so slow I only made $13 for that shift.

If you can not afford to tip at at a restaurant with waiter service, please stay home or go to McDonalds.

 

[bankside]

everyone seems to miss about electronic card payments.

How would one tip on that one to the hotel workers, door man, waiters ... etc if most of you guys carry cards and NO cash ?

We pay all the time with cards in Canada. The little machine will let you add in a tip before you approve the amount to be billed.

 

[Telstra]

They make up for the difference in tips. In theory the restaurant has to pay employees the difference if they do make an average of less than minimum wage for that week. I've never worked in a restaurant where anyone earned less than minimum wage. I did work at a hotel restaurant and one night and it was so slow I only made $13 for that shift.

If you can not afford to tip at at a restaurant with waiter service, please stay home or go to McDonalds.

shocked. Why does McDonalds workers doesn't deserve a tip?
Double standards. !!!

 

[snapcat]

about AUD $15 per hour (not sure)
$1 AUD = 65 cent us

That would be around $10.18 US

Here the Federal Minimum wage is $6.55 or 9.65 AUD

However each State can pay higher

Minimum wager for food servers is actually $2.35 an hour, about a dollar more for bartenders.

 

[M4P]

Minimum wager for food servers is actually $2.35 an hour, about a dollar more for bartenders.

$2.35 - are you kidding me?

That is criminal

No wonder Americans will say Canadians are cheap when it comes to tipping

Our servers may be paid minimum wage but that would still be $7 or $8 per hour and it's not like our cost of living is any higher unless you factor in sin taxes

No fucking wonder they expect a 20% tip which I will gladly give if the food and service are exceptional

 

[Telstra]

Minimum wager for food servers is actually $2.35 an hour, about a dollar more for bartenders.

now i'm shocked.
It should be made Illegal. This sort of system encouraged crimes because of unfair pay !!!! I'm serious.

If i work there, i would steal as much money as possible for sure. not from the customers but from the owners.

 

[Alpha1851]

now i'm shocked.
It should be made Illegal. This sort of system encouraged crimes because of unfair pay !!!! I'm serious.

No, b/c if an employee's tips combined with the employer's direct wages do not equal the federal minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference. As such, folks who depend on tips in order to supplement their salary, should always receive at least minimum wage. Some states have a higher minimum wage standard than the federal minimum wage standard. The employee is entitled to the higher benefit, whichever it is. I'm not suggesting that it's easy to collect the money from the employer, just stating that it's the law.

As for your outrage over the poor McDonald's employees who aren't getting tipped, they automatically get paid at least minimum wage by their employer. Those workers aren't relying on our tips to supplement their income. They also aren't providing a service. The worker takes the customer's order and cooks it up, but they don't bring the order to the customers table or refill their drinks or anything of that nature. It's fast food for a reason.

 

[Telstra]

No, b/c if an employee's tips combined with the employer's direct wages do not equal the federal minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference. As such, folks who depend on tips in order to supplement their salary, should always receive at least minimum wage. Some states have a higher minimum wage standard than the federal minimum wage standard. The employee is entitled to the higher benefit, whichever it is. I'm not suggesting that it's easy to collect the money from the employer, just stating that it's the law.

As for your outrage over the poor McDonald's employees who aren't getting tipped, they automatically get paid at least minimum wage by their employer. Those workers aren't relying on our tips to supplement their income. They also aren't providing a service. The worker takes the customer's order and cooks it up, but they don't bring the order to the customers table or refill their drinks or anything of that nature. It's fast food for a reason.

well, service has different meaning than over there and over here.

Anyway, customers prefer to know axactly how much the workers getting paid and the tips should be just a bonus and nothing else (not a replacement of wages).

In the restaurants case, its like you advertised your dinner for $50 but you have to pay nearly double.

 

[Alpha1851]

well, service has different meaning than over there and over here.

Anyway, customers prefer to know exactly how much the workers getting paid and the tips should be just a bonus and nothing else (not a replacement of wages).

In the restaurants case, its like you advertised your dinner for $50 but you have to pay nearly double.

Sure, but we all know that here. American customers are well aware that they're expected to tip. It's no mystery. It's tipping, not the Bermuda Triangle.

 

[Jory]

everyone seems to miss about electronic card payments.

How would one tip on that one to the hotel workers, door man, waiters ... etc if most of you guys carry cards and NO cash ?

Some recipes that you sign has a line where you can write the amount of the tip.....if this was already stated just think of it as verification

 

[Jory]

Minimum wager for food servers is actually $2.35 an hour, about a dollar more for bartenders.

This is the average Federal minimum wage each State can set it higher but not below $2.35