Vegetarians.

[zoltanspawn]

Plus, once you see meat under a microscope (especially ham)...your ass will never go back to meat.

I'm certain I would remain unthwarted, but I don't have a microscope. Can you elaborate?

 

[zoltanspawn]

To those of us who haven't eaten meat in a long time, the smell of bacon actually makes us feel queasy. Pictures of it are also extremely repulsive. It's goatse for vegetarians.
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This is certainly true for some/many vegetarians, but not all. SoloHero's meme-ish humor may even frame a major issue for new vegetarians--of giving up a popular, commonplace foodstuff they used to regard with pleasure. Though I admit I've rarely heard vegetarians complain of missing meat, I have enough firsthand experience with people going non-veg to know that bacon specifically is a gateway protein. For me, and half a dozen folks I know, bacon ended their vegetarian era.

 

[Callum]

I'm certain I would remain unthwarted, but I don't have a microscope. Can you elaborate?

It's nasty. A pinkish-brown and everything moves. Total turnoff. At least with plant cells you can see walls.

 

[Críostóir]

This is certainly true for some/many vegetarians, but not all. SoloHero's meme-ish humor may even frame a major issue for new vegetarians--of giving up a popular, commonplace foodstuff they used to regard with pleasure. Though I admit I've rarely heard vegetarians complain of missing meat, I have enough firsthand experience with people going non-veg to know that bacon specifically is a gateway protein. For me, and half a dozen folks I know, bacon ended their vegetarian era.

You didn't make it to "a long time." I remember having a craving for a Big Mac a year after going veggie. That let me know I was on the right track!

By 1988 (ten years into vegetarianism) most meat was starting to be repulsive to me, and pork actually made me sick.

Now, after 32 years...kinda no going back.

And I'm sure you don't disagree that posting bacon is obnoxious whether it tempts or repels the veggies in the thread.

 

[zoltanspawn]

You didn't make it to "a long time." ......

And I'm sure you don't disagree that posting bacon is obnoxious whether it tempts or repels the veggies in the thread.

Although what constitutes 'a long time' seems relative, I don't think I've mentioned anywhere on JUB how long I ate a vegetarian diet? I never found meat especially repellant, though, you are correct. Due to occupation, I have always been around meat.

I do disagree that every veggie would find posting bacon in this thread obnoxious. When I was one, it would have struck me as merely irrelevant or possibly lighthearted fun. But at various points in being a vegetarian, I gave up eating meat and returned to eating meat; so meat played a role in my diet, though I didn't consume it. I could always talk about it, and I could always recognize that people enjoyed being carnivores.

 

[Críostóir]

Although what constitutes 'a long time' seems relative, I don't think I've mentioned anywhere on JUB how long I ate a vegetarian diet? I never found meat especially repellant, though, you are correct. Due to occupation, I have always been around meat.

I guess I assumed you were vegetarian for less than 10 years. This is partly because I think people who've been veggie for that long rarely go back (see references to barfing upthread).

It's also partly because I assume everyone here is younger than me, for yea, I am ancient of days. This isn't true either, but it feels like it a lot of the time.

 

[frankfrank]

It's nasty. A pinkish-brown and everything moves. Total turnoff. At least with plant cells you can see walls.

Huh? it MOVES??!! Isn't ham smoked and all that, and therefore dead when you see it?

Excuse me while I go out and fetch something that's really very suitable for this thread. HINT: Use margarine, not butter!

 

[frankfrank]

 

[metta]

Why do people always feel like they need to talk about how much they love meat and what meats they eat on vegetarian threads asking for advice?

For the newbie vegetarians, when you order salads in restaurants, stay away from ceasar salad which has sardines in the dressing.

Also, rice-a-roni, within 'natural flavors' includes meat bi-products. So stay away from that brand as well.

Most gelatin is made of animal parts. There are vegetarian/vegan alternatives, but most do not use them because they cost more. agar-agar is one of them. If you want something like jello, Trader Joes and many health food stores offer alternatives. If vegetarian gelatin is used they mention it in ingredients. If it just says gelatin, always assume that it is made of the sludge of boiled animal parts.

Trader Joes brand vegetarian italian sausage is good to use in stir fries, pasta dishes, etc.

For holidays, Field Roast makes a really yummy Celebration Roast: http://www.fieldroast.com/products.htm


I find it easier to not eat very many processed foods. However, there are many available that can be found in most grocery stores and normally a larger selection at health food store.

 

[hylas]

Why do people always feel like they need to talk about how much they love meat and what meats they eat on vegetarian threads asking for advice?

yeah seriously, can somebody answer that?

especially since this specific thread is not about discussing vegetarianism, but about discussing vegetarian food options.

 

[LilBit]

Why do people always feel like they need to talk about how much they love meat and what meats they eat on vegetarian threads asking for advice?

Because everyone loves picking on minorities! :~D

For holidays, Field Roast makes a really yummy Celebration Roast: http://www.fieldroast.com/products.htm

I've tried their sausages, and I thought they were awfully greasy. Tofurkey sausages, on the other hand, are delicious. I just wish there were more non-soy-based meat substitutes.

 

[bankside]

Why do people always feel like they need to talk about how much they love meat and what meats they eat on vegetarian threads asking for advice?

yeah seriously, can somebody answer that?

especially since this specific thread is not about discussing vegetarianism, but about discussing vegetarian food options.

Actually I can see that as the goal of the original poster now, but it was ambiguous enough that when I first read it, I thought the question was more like "Hey, I'm trying this vegetarian thing. What do you do?"

And as I'm not trying this vegetarian thing, I replied with what I eat on a regular basis.

Plus, when people say "I really like vegetables" or "I love this recipe for this vegetable-based dish," it is tempting to try it. I have. That's how I ate squash for the first time, and vegetarian tacos, not that long ago. But when it becomes kind of desperate and strident and people take pot-shots at the "horror" of my nutritious perfectly tasty, healthy-in-moderation meat based meal, it is hard to take seriously and it can even become off-putting.

When it is about the meal, I dunno, maybe there are some good vegetable-based dishes out there, but when it is about "morality" then there will obviously be all kinds of debate, and sometimes even some intelligent nuance! (i.e. traditional/organically raised vs. factory farming, etc.)

 

[zoltanspawn]

For the newbie vegetarians, when you order salads in restaurants, stay away from ceasar salad which has sardines in the dressing.

Also, rice-a-roni, within 'natural flavors' includes meat bi-products. So stay away from that brand as well.

Most gelatin is made of animal parts. There are vegetarian/vegan alternatives, but most do not use them because they cost more. agar-agar is one of them. If you want something like jello, Trader Joes and many health food stores offer alternatives. If vegetarian gelatin is used they mention it in ingredients. If it just says gelatin, always assume that it is made of the sludge of boiled animal parts.

Don't forget about animal rennet used in cheese and some chocolates; bone jellies used to fine some beers, spirits and wines, sometimes apple juice; worcestershire sauce, bone-char filtered sugar, refried beans; animal-derived gelatin also makes its way into marshmallows, yogurt, sour cream, candies, gelcaps and more. Also, lots of little additives may sometimes come from animals: glycerine, cochineal (if you don't eat beetles), lipase, trypsin, protease, cystine, mono and diglycerides, amylase and stearic acid.

When I ate vegetarian, I randomly stayed away from Altoids and beans refried in lard. Avoiding the rest was too much work, and often impossible to determine.

 

[metta]

Because everyone loves picking on minorities! :~D


I've tried their sausages, and I thought they were awfully greasy. Tofurkey sausages, on the other hand, are delicious. I just wish there were more non-soy-based meat substitutes.

Yes, that is why I did not recommend that. The Tofurkey brand of italian sausage is not bad but the Trader Joe's brand is even better. It usually is good to brown it up a little in a cast iron pan before adding it to a dish.

The Field Roast's Celebration Roast is wonderful. Yum! Good for vegans as well.

 

[frankfrank]

So, if VEGETARIANS eat vegetables, what do humanitarians eat?

hehehe, LOL LOL

 

[strokes630]

I am not a vegetarian but I highly recommend Dr. Praeger's Veggie Burgers found at Trader Joe's. They are not mainly soy (unlike those gross Morningstar ones) They are awesome!

Just like religion, I think vegetarians should keep their stances to themselves. To each their own.

More bacon and burgers for me!