Verdict reached in Dharun Ravi webcam spying trial

[eddielee]

This all hits close to home since some of the drama played out right here on JUB. I'm surprised the jury found his actions to be motivated by homophobia. Maybe some positive changes will come out of this.

 

[Ninja108]

Justice was done here today. This was done to torture Tyler because he was gay.
Now he'll have plenty of time to think about it in prison.

 

[chrisrobin]

Why shouldn't he be allowed to live here?

Is it because he's Indian??

No.

Thank you for defecating on yet another thoughtful thread. Every one of your posts enhances my life.

 

[FanofFiction]

I'm not surprised that he was found guilty of privacy invasion. That was a given. I hope he serves serious time.

 

[Salemite]

I'm surprised the jury found his actions to be motivated by homophobia.

I'm not. Have you read this?

On a Saturday night in August, 2010, a week before starting college, Dharun Ravi decided to look online for his future Rutgers roommate. He knew Clementi’s first name and that his last name started with C; he also knew his e-mail address, [Email Address: Removed by Moderator]—apparently, a distillation of musical terms—and had e-mailed him but received no reply.

[Quote truncated by moderator] © 2012 Condé Nast Digital. All rights reserved.

Source Link (added by moderator): http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/02/06/120206fa_fact_parker#ixzz1pjd0L4Jg

The story continues from there, but that's basic the gist of it.

Pretty disgusting, no?

 

[FanofFiction]

Trueblood... that is a lot of evidence of homophobia. Wow. Disgusting.

 

[insipid]

What a dick! The guy reads about his roomates suicide and the FIRST thing that he thinks of is covering his tracks? I mean, within FOUR FUCKING MINUTES he writes the whole "My best friend is gay!" reply? Oh, my god. No remorse at all. The man is a sociopath.

 

[Salemite]

What a dick! The guy reads about his roomates suicide and the FIRST thing that he thinks of is covering his tracks? I mean, within FOUR FUCKING MINUTES he writes the whole "My best friend is gay!" reply? Oh, my god. No remorse at all.

I find the coverup almost as shameful as the incident itself. The deleted tweets, the message he sent to Tyler ("All my actions were good natured. One of my best friends is gay!"), telling Molly he lied to police ("I told them we were just messing around with the camera. I didn't realize he wanted privacy.") and encouraging her to lie too ("Did you tell them we did it on purpose?" - "Omg dharun why didnt u talk to me first i told them everything.")

Just disgusting.

 

[justndav]

I find the coverup almost as shameful as the incident itself. The deleted tweets, the message he sent to Tyler ("All my actions were good natured. One of my best friends is gay!"), telling Molly he lied to police ("I told them we were just messing around with the camera. I didn't realize he wanted privacy.") and encouraging her to lie too ("Did you tell them we did it on purpose?" - "Omg dharun why didnt u talk to me first i told them everything.")

Just disgusting.

Seems like they may have missed an obstruction of justice charge?

Anyways, I am overall happy with the verdict in the case and hopefully it does send a message. As someone earlier stated, there has to be a first person to take a fall in cases like this and Ravi seems like the perfect candidate. He seems like a real scumbag from that previous transcript thats been posted. Just casually throwing around words and saying things relating to gay people like its nothing. Unfortunately because he probably doesn't have a prior record he likely isn't going to get a significant amount of jail time- probably three to five years tops... but it'll be a bit of time for him to sit around and think about what he did, or what his actions led to....

 

[DigitalFudge]

"I didn't realize he wanted privacy"

 

[insipid]

Seems like they may have missed an obstruction of justice charge?

Anyways, I am overall happy with the verdict in the case and hopefully it does send a message. ....

I too am happy with the verdict. I don't think he needs to be in jail for life or deported. But I do think this is one time where justice was done.

In the article it mentions how one of his supporters think that this is going to stay with Ravi for his whole life. While i wish that were true, I can't agree. Judging from his actions after the incident, it seems like he only regrets getting caught.

 

[bradlee119]

Some of what was happening with Tyler at the time played out on JUB....but it seems now that the thread has been removed?

 

[Salemite]

The fact that Dharun was so quick to attempt a coverup after the suicide suggests that he wasn't remorseful at all -- at least not in the beginning. You don't push someone to suicide and immediately jump to "Oh no! How does this affect me?" if you're truly remorseful. That just doesn't happen.

Additionally, the fact that he's still making excuses for himself makes it impossible to believe he's truly sorry. He's only interested in covering his own ass, as evidenced by his defense in court (Ravi claimed that he was merely "curious" to see what Clementi and his guest were doing in the dorm room. “Who wouldn’t be curious if it’s your room and all of a sudden in a dorm of 18 and 17-year-olds somebody comes in looking scruffy and homeless?”) Now, if he actually took responsibility for his actions and stopped trying to minimize what he did, maybe then I could buy that he's remorseful, but until then... no. How can he be sorry for something he won't even own up to?

 

[fetaby]

^ We are what we instant message?

If we aren't we should have an explanation why. And if we can't explain then what are we if not ignorant. And ignorance has never been a credible defense.

 

[fetaby]

Unknowingly and then knowingly being thrust into a spotlight of ridicule isn't intimidation?

 

[braex27]

I don't understand how Ravi could have lived in the US for that long and not become a citizen - is a matter of simply not wanting or putting off applying for citizenship?

And now that he's been convicted of a crime, is he therefore ineligible for citizenship?

 

[freefall]

just for the record, there has been no (legal) assertion made that Ravi's actions had anything to do with Tyler jumping off a bridge. he wasn't charged with manslaughter.

I was listening to them discuss the case on local radio today... the consensus seemed to be, even among people who agreed with the verdict, that the bias intimidation charge probably won't hold up on appeal.

edit: there was also a consensus that Ravi was an arrogant moron for not accepting the original plea offer.

Actually, driving someone to suicide is a crime. It has a different level with direct murder, but people can be sentenced for that.

Which makes me wonder what other 4 charges Ravi received.

And how's the story going with Wei.

Anyway, this makes me glad that gay-based crime finally receive more attention, that it is no longer taken lightly. I just hope that this can increase awareness against gay bashing.

 

[teadrinker]

I don't know if this has been posted before, but here is a list of all the charges:

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/03/ravi_webcam_trial_verdict.html

-T.

 

[Ram]

At the end of the day, Ravi is just an asshole who did a really dumb assholish thing, and yeah, probably is a major fucking douchebag homophobe, but he didn't torture anyone, murder them and drag their body behind his car, as far as I can recall. He's a piece of shit, but good fucking God he's not gay public enemy number #1. I hope they don't waste the money locking him up for 10 years...just send the turd off to live out the rest of his shitty life.

And Clementi, while he certainly he certainly didn't deserve any of this shit to happen to him, shouldn't be made a martyr for jumping off that fucking bridge. Holy shit man, it would have taken less than 24 hours to report that asshole roommate of yours and get him immediately yanked from your room. You could have snapped your fingers, fucked over his college career for what he did to you, and be having the time of your life right now, still in college, getting laid left and right.

.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[FanofFiction]

The university I attended had a policy about webcams and invasion of privacy. If you found out your roommate was spying on you via the means of technological devices, they would not only be pulled from the room but right out of the school. Good bye asshole.

It's really sad that Tyler hadn't just reported Ravi and got him pulled from the room (or possibly the school).

That said, maybe he'll now be pulled out of the country.