Weeks After Assassination AZ Proposes Official Gun!

[Kulindahr]

Kuli, you can't tell me this doesn't have any political undertones and pandering to the NRA. Otherwise there will be official State toasters and blenders too.

If you could find a toaster or blender that played a very important part in the state's history, they probably would.

Tying the NRA into everything that happens that has to do with guns is just conspiracy theory thinking. The only motivation I've found for this comes down to two things: a general desire to assert themselves after Obama came down on Arizona for trying to do what the federal government has been failing to do for over a decade, and seeing Utah start in on making a state gun and deciding they want to be the first. As far as I can find, the NRA response is a "Kool, but so what?"

 

[Kulindahr]

You did raise I point that I hadn't considered, Bob. The guns while historic, are still in production albeit in limited quantities through the custom shop, as I recall. So it seems they would be giving Colt a leg up in that they could advertise it as the Official Firearm of Arizona. If I owned US Firearms, who produces essentially identical guns in Colt's old factory in Hartford, I'd be pissed by being excluded. And what about Winchester? The rifle played a far bigger role than the pistol did.

Arizona could have made money on this, but they may have squandered away that opportunity!

Looking at auctions online for the Colt SAA, I find more than a few that are labeled "Colt SAA, by Springfield", or "... by Ruger", or even by foreign manufacturers. It's one of those things where the name carries, regardless of the actual manufacturer.

 

[levenshulme31]

Looking at auctions online for the Colt SAA, I find more than a few that are labeled "Colt SAA, by Springfield", or "... by Ruger", or even by foreign manufacturers. It's one of those things where the name carries, regardless of the actual manufacturer.

Selling guns by online aution. now there's a method guaranteed to keep them out of the hands of ne'er-do-wells.

 

[CowboyBob]

If you could find a toaster or blender that played a very important part in the state's history, they probably would.

How about Oxycontin as Florida's official drug because Limbaugh lives there?

This "important part of history" argument is bunk. It's political pandering to the NRA.

Why the need for an "official gun" anyway? There's a heck of a lot more things important to Arizona's history than a gun. The bola tie the official tie.

It's pandering to the NRA.

 

[Kulindahr]

Selling guns by online aution. now there's a method guaranteed to keep them out of the hands of ne'er-do-wells.

Actually it's safer than a gun store. To get a firearm via online auction, the person sending it has to send it through a federally licensed gun dealer, who is required to do the NICS bit on the buyer before sending it. It will not be sent to the buyer, but to another federally licensed gun dealer, who before he releases it to the buyer will do another NICS check.

Failure to do the check on the first end would be at least one and up to three federal felonies for both the seller and the dealer. Failure to do it at the receiving end would be the same, for the buyer and that dealer. Total prison time for any one of the offenders could run up to sixty years.

 

[Kulindahr]

How about Oxycontin as Florida's official drug because Limbaugh lives there?

This "important part of history" argument is bunk. It's political pandering to the NRA.

Why the need for an "official gun" anyway? There's a heck of a lot more things important to Arizona's history than a gun. The bola tie the official tie.

It's pandering to the NRA.

Even if the NRA cared, what would be the point? No one is going to get campaign donations for doing this, or any other benefits from the NRA.

Did the bola tie help civilize Arizona? Did Rush Limbaugh help settle Florida? You're really reaching here, out of nothing but prejudice.

I can't even find anything by Wayne LaPierre on this one, and if there was any pandering going on, he'd have his slimy fingers in there.

 

[frankfrank]

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The handle on this one looks like it's made out of ivory? A nice piece of work...but your post about Colt not being their own manufacture really surprised me.

 

[Kulindahr]

The handle on this one looks like it's made out of ivory? A nice piece of work...but your post about Colt not being their own manufacture really surprised me.

Could be. It was common to make grips out of animal bone or horn.

The name transfer bit isn't that uncommon. If someone comes up with a popular design, people will do copies and use the original name, but once it becomes legal to make copies, other manufacturers will make them and use the original name. The name sticks at that point not because of the manufacturer, but as a design name. A good example is the Bowie knife: it was designed by Bowie's brother, but made by a guy named Black; Bowie made it famous and popular, and anyone who could make knives then started churning out "Bowie knives". That went one step farther: "Bowie" is now the name of that type of knife in general, with defined characteristics, and not just that exact knife.

So the designer name or manufacturer name morphs into a descriptive designator that goes with the item no matter who made it.


note: I went looking for Black's first name and found my memory was wrong -- it's correct now