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What do you like in a queer LGBT film? Got a favourite?

What is an LGBT film anyway?

Is it meant to fill the gap left by by Hollywood's reluctance to portray gay romance? AIDS was done to death in the 90's. I'd say there are plenty of other subjects for LGBT films to tackle besides romance, especially now, yet almost every film on this thread seems to be about romance. These days, you would think the trans community, for example, would come up with some films that could carry a great deal of gravitas.

Many years ago I remember seeing an ad for a film called "Smoke Signals" that touted itself as the first film to be made by Native Americans. Cringey title aside, I have no interest in seeing a film just because it was made by a particular group. That would be like rushing out to see a film that was only shot on Tuesdays.

Since romance bores me, I generally avoid LGBT films. Two films I love dearly are "My Own Private Idaho", which is more of an art film than a LGBT film, and Gregg Araki's "The Doom Generation" which does fall squarely into the "New Queer Cinema" movement of the 90's, but deals with, among other things, internalized homophobia and the sometimes very thin line between heterosexuality and bi-curiosity. As a jokey and bratty caveat, Araki even subtitled it "A Heterosexual film by Gregg Araki"

Black cinema has had more success crossing over into the mainstream than LGBT cinema has, because they tackle other subjects besides "See? We can love too." It seems to me a lot of LGBT films are self-ghettoizing.
 
Norri said:
Your Name Engraved Herein was the last good gay movie I’ve seen.
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Pretty interesting. Thanks. I'm always just about to quit 'flix but there are these gems in the mix.🥴
 
Peloso said:
What is an LGBT film anyway?

Is it meant to fill the gap left by by Hollywood's reluctance to portray gay romance? AIDS was done to death in the 90's. I'd say there are plenty of other subjects for LGBT films to tackle besides romance, especially now, yet almost every film on this thread seems to be about romance. These days, you would think the trans community, for example, would come up with some films that could carry a great deal of gravitas.

Many years ago I remember seeing an ad for a film called "Smoke Signals" that touted itself as the first film to be made by Native Americans. Cringey title aside, I have no interest in seeing a film just because it was made by a particular group. That would be like rushing out to see a film that was only shot on Tuesdays.

Since romance bores me, I generally avoid LGBT films. Two films I love dearly are "My Own Private Idaho", which is more of an art film than a LGBT film, and Gregg Araki's "The Doom Generation" which does fall squarely into the "New Queer Cinema" movement of the 90's, but deals with, among other things, internalized homophobia and the sometimes very thin line between heterosexuality and bi-curiosity. As a jokey and bratty caveat, Araki even subtitled it "A Heterosexual film by Gregg Araki"

Black cinema has had more success crossing over into the mainstream than LGBT cinema has, because they tackle other subjects besides "See? We can love too." It seems to me a lot of LGBT films are self-ghettoizing.
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I didn't quite have room to include MOPI! Haven't seen that since I was a teen though. Should revamp my impression.

Araki's film should have gotten the attention 'Wild Things' got.🙄 Fat chance.

I do think there's value in having gay/female/native/black/asian/trans/southern/deaf or whatever characters getting to say and do things decided by people from those groups. I mean it's been middle to upper-class white hetero males writing/directing/producing for ALL groups in the vast majority of material that gets green-lit. That isn't nothing.

Having said that, you could have a shallow stupid person who's 'authentically from a group'... like a few female directors who kiss up so hard to Daddy. Opening a film with Scarlett Johansson's butt, for example.

I don't know who made Transamerica (2005) with Felicity Huffman but that was really good. Huffman was impressively subtle and moving. I'd like to see a similar film starring an actual transwoman.
 
An interesting small film.

Getting Go: The Go Doc Project (2013) is a story about a college guy, Doc, who has a crush on a go-go dancer in NYC named Go. Doc wants to make a movie about Go’s life, so he starts hanging out with him and follows him around the city—going to bars, rooftops, and even his bedroom. As they spend more time together, things get flirty, and their relationship turns into something more. One night, they end up getting really close, and that brings out their true feelings.

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PipRosi said:
I didn't quite have room to include MOPI! Haven't seen that since I was a teen though. Should revamp my impression.

Araki's film should have gotten the attention 'Wild Things' got.🙄 Fat chance.

I do think there's value in having gay/female/native/black/asian/trans/southern/deaf or whatever characters getting to say and do things decided by people from those groups. I mean it's been middle to upper-class white hetero males writing/directing/producing for ALL groups in the vast majority of material that gets green-lit. That isn't nothing.

Having said that, you could have a shallow stupid person who's 'authentically from a group'... like a few female directors who kiss up so hard to Daddy. Opening a film with Scarlett Johansson's butt, for example.

I don't know who made Transamerica (2005) with Felicity Huffman but that was really good. Huffman was impressively subtle and moving. I'd like to see a similar film starring an actual transwoman.
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Araki's film played in NYC for just one week. Plus it had cum eating and graphic castration. "Wild Things" had Kevin Bacon's dick.

I agree that marginalized groups should be at the helm when they are depicted. But as a gay man I know for sure that being gay is more than coming of age and taking off my shirt and looking aloof for the camera. Has anyone ever make a film about the Stonewall riots? I mean a GOOD film.

"Transamerica" was good, but a lot has happened to the trans community since then. But casting is important, and there isn't as big a pool of trans people to choose from. I'd rather see Russell Crowe play trans than a trans person with with limited talent. Not that Crowe is the pinnacle of talent.
 
rareboy said:
An interesting small film.

Getting Go: The Go Doc Project (2013) is a story about a college guy, Doc, who has a crush on a go-go dancer in NYC named Go. Doc wants to make a movie about Go’s life, so he starts hanging out with him and follows him around the city—going to bars, rooftops, and even his bedroom. As they spend more time together, things get flirty, and their relationship turns into something more. One night, they end up getting really close, and that brings out their true feelings.

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Is vocal fry a millenial/Gen Z law or something?
I like the style so far. Artsy but fun could be the new thing.
Genuine question, do people think go-go boys need to bulk out beyond their body's natural blueprint to be maximum sexy? Like hyper-masculine performativity. I guess it's sort of the male version of breast implants.
 
PipRosi said:
Egads. Did you guys actually watch that :poop:? The previews didn't put you off? And the title?

Well, the director's part of that over-privileged Rogan cabal that I'm not a fan of.
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I didn't SEE any previews.
Just a few reviews, that were really part of the hype machine.
FORTUNATELY, I didn't queue up to pay for a ticket at any cinema.
I found it surfing over streaming services one rainy, Sunday afternoon.
To its credit, it was probably the first 'family friendly' gay rom-com to get out their in the market.
HOPEFULLY, this will open a door to a bit of substance, down-the-road a bit.
Had I reviewed it, I would have said its 'appeal' would be more out there in the "straight community"
In the meantime, there's plenty of air-headed young homos who'll rave about it because it's "so gay"

I think I managed about half an hour ?
 
Nude_Dude said:
I didn't SEE any previews.
Just a few reviews, that were really part of the hype machine.
FORTUNATELY, I didn't queue up to pay for a ticket at any cinema.
I found it surfing over streaming services one rainy, Sunday afternoon.
To its credit, it was probably the first 'family friendly' gay rom-com to get out their in the market.
HOPEFULLY, this will open a door to a bit of substance, down-the-road a bit.
Had I reviewed it, I would have said its 'appeal' would be more out there in the "straight community"
In the meantime, there's plenty of air-headed young homos who'll rave about it because it's "so gay"

I think I managed about half an hour ?
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Right. Catering to the derpiest goobers around. I can go a lil' silly with my comedy but just plain stupid? Why contribute to the stupidification of society? In a gay rom-com especially I expect a fresh hot cup of wit. Maybe they showed all the lamest jokes in the preview.
 
Yesterday I watched a holiday themed gay romance movie on Tubi called The Holiday Exchange. It’s cute and pretty much an LGBTQ Hallmark movie. I was bored and couldn’t believe that I was watching a Christmas movie in the middle of October.
 
has anyone seen this?

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...a story about Antonio, a 30-year-old family man, facing a life-altering crisis when his husband unexpectedly leaves him, leaving him emotionally and financially vulnerable. In search of stability, he moves into a room in Denis’s apartment and takes a job at Luca’s bakery while pursuing his passion for baking at pastry school.

As he navigates this new chapter, Antonio learns the importance of independence and self-worth, realizing that he sacrificed too much for his past relationship.
 
Alittle formulaic...but might touch a few hearts.

 
gaysian85 said:
Yesterday I watched a holiday themed gay romance movie on Tubi called The Holiday Exchange. It’s cute and pretty much an LGBTQ Hallmark movie. I was bored and couldn’t believe that I was watching a Christmas movie in the middle of October.
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Ah. Sounds pretty stinkin' adorable.

rareboy said:
has anyone seen this?

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...a story about Antonio, a 30-year-old family man, facing a life-altering crisis when his husband unexpectedly leaves him, leaving him emotionally and financially vulnerable. In search of stability, he moves into a room in Denis’s apartment and takes a job at Luca’s bakery while pursuing his passion for baking at pastry school.

As he navigates this new chapter, Antonio learns the importance of independence and self-worth, realizing that he sacrificed too much for his past relationship.
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Where are you pullling all these nuggets from? You're the gaymovie maven.
 
Recognition of my own situation... or a certain kind of humor that usually only gay men recognize.

No trite bullshit about two men discovering their gay feelings.

Brokeback Mountain is a beautiful film, but it isn't anyway near relevant to the LGB(T) world I came to age in in The Netherlands, where in nearly all violence against gays is almost universally decried, as gay and bi (and trans) people are so rarely perceived as at fault in ordinary conflict situations, that the Amsterdam Police hasn't gotten away with their common -blame the victim to reduce paperwork- shtick multiple times, because no one believes in Amsterdam or most of Europe that groups of LGBT's go start fights with over groups over nothing out of boredom.

I like Party Monster, which I would call a gay film because of the James St. James - Michael Alig dynamic alone, which a lot of straight people don't pick up on.

Macaulay Culkin playing Michael Alig, after Home Alone and The Good Son is a stroke of genius as both the Grand Central scene and elements of the murder, bring to mind scenes from Home Alone.

The -late- real Michael Alig seems to be actually less
fun than the character portrayed by Culkin.

It is -however- a deeply disturbing movie, based on true facts.

Please don't do this.

We , who lived through the Nineties with it's mostly carefree and heavily drugged clubscene (mostly too much for me at the time), can connect to this kind of environment, even though I'm from Haarlem, The Netherlands and my closest friends are from Antwerp, Belgium.

Never got in really deep, but experienced a thing or two.

 
I can agree.

I have lived a lifetime of witnessing angst and tragedy in homosexual relationships including all those who died with their love suppressed or with AIDS.

It is why I can sit through the broadest, silliest and lightweight homo romance and comedy movies.
 
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