xbuzzerx
CE&P Secret Police
I agree completely with you on the Kinsey stuff - it's overplayed and misused.
This last section though is still rather odd - I feel like you are being hostile towards the existence of bisexuality. I think this idea of people using bisexuality as a half way house is a complete straw man argument designed to hate on bisexuals and pretend they are all out to deceive us. I just can't see why outing yourself as enjoying same sex relationships, as well as heterosexual relationships, is some how safe? You are still putting it out there you like cock - just you are being as truthful to your own experiences as you can be by saying you are bisexual.
Why can't you just take someone's word on their sexuality? They are out as not being heterosexual, that to me is enough.
Maybe we have completely different experiences. The bisexual people who show a sexual interest in both genders are something I am told exists, online. I do believe that it exists. But I don't see it.
The bisexual people I see offline show a discomfort of being thought of as gay, and otherwise pursue love lives which are either definitively hetero or definitively homosexual. Women tend to be the former and men tend to be the latter. I know many gay men with long-term "bi" boyfriends or husbands. I don't know any straight women with "bi" boyfriends or husbands. Perhaps that ties back into your former discussion with someone else about how you don't really see bi people ever using or being able to take advantage of "straight privilege"... if lots of bi guys are in settled relationships with women, they don't seem to be as vocally reminding their girlfriends, wives and friends of their bisexuality as they do when they are involved with the same gender.
It's quite possible my experiences or my sample selection are skewed to some degree or other. But I'm also really wary of people online telling you that because someone says something online, you should disregard what you see and hear with your own eyes and ears to be unreliable or the opposite of reality-- whether that's how viable 6-way relationships are (they just get a bad rap from closed-minded people and are much more common than you think!) or how monogamy is just a heteronormative fiction so if you feel jealous you're just accepting heteronormative ideas, or similar claims you can easily find online. I pretty much opened my participation in this thread (I think--- I could be confusing it with another similar thread) stating that I believe bisexuality exists, but that people you'd know were bisexual through observation of their behavior are very very rare, that I know of none offline, and that it's much rarer than the total number of people claiming the ID. I do not believe all or even most of the discrepancy involved between those two things are merely other people being closedminded, bi-bashing, or similar. I believe that people identify as bi for all kinds of reasons only one of which is a legitimate and viable sexual romantic interest in both genders. I could not guess what percentage of bi people are this and that. I can only say that there are virtually no people I've seen offline who date both men and women... but quite a few people identifying as bisexual.
Regarding the question at the end of your post, it's not like I'm in charge of stamping passports with a certified sexual orientation on them and I don't pretend to be. People can identify however they like, just like they can do so on an anonymous ethnicity survey. (Wow, how'd we get 5x more Irish and a third as many Iranians than we know are here?) But I think in both cases all kinds of pressures, social attitudes, and social stigmas are weighing on the answers you will receive.
I do think there are reasons for a false label of bi, I've elaborated them in a few posts. To me it's inexplicable why pointing that out always provokes a response that implies that the bi identity is incredibly fragile and the slightest questioning is a threat to its very existence.

