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What do you think of this HIV results service?
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Personally, I've always assumed that everyone I've been with has had or has one or more of the 'Big 4' (HIV/AIDS, Gonorrhea, Chlamydia & Syphilis) and have taken the appropriate precautions. Someone waving a text message in my face isn't going to change that - and as this company doesn't verify other diseases outside of those 4, I again question the point of providing such an inaccurate service.
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Well I must admit that I've been holding out making the comment about the site having no Privacy Policy statement, and that it's free of charge. Now, it could be that the successful business entrepeneur that runs it is using it as a 'tax break' - or he's recouping his running costs via an alternative means. I'm just a cynical old bastard.
Well I must admit that I've been holding out making the comment about the site having no Privacy Policy statement, and that it's free of charge. Now, it could be that the successful business entrepeneur that runs it is using it as a 'tax break' - or he's recouping his running costs via an alternative means. I'm just a cynical old bastard.
It does have a privacy policy. It basically authorizes them to share the information with whomever they wish.
Are you getting paid by the hour or the click?
In case anyone is wondering, a new type of maketing is what we are witnessing here. App creators/ site designers sign up these folks to troll forums and try to direct traffic to their bosses. The purpose is to make the app/site look appealing to would be advertisers.
What we have here is a human spambot.
i am not getting paid for anything. this is all out of my frustration with the continuing spread of hiv and my frustrations with guys who lie about their hiv status just so they can get some ass. i'm tired of the lying and if a tool is in place to help weed out hiv infected people from those who dont have it(in the bedroom), then im all for it. i don't see how this would be a detriment to the cause, unless people use it as an excuse to bareback, which shouldnt be the case.
so you can make that spambot claim all you want, but you're wasting your time.
why not take the assumptions one step further and see evidence that the person is taking care of that? this assumption business can get a bit exhausting. yes i'd still assume a guy has an sti, but wouldnt it be even BETTER if we saw their test results and knew they were recently tested negative for these diseases. and at the least, this will easily identify those who DO have one of those sti's, especially if theyve had them for quite sometime and havent been treated. it's a win win situation really.
Well I must admit that I've been holding out making the comment about the site having no Privacy Policy statement, and that it's free of charge. Now, it could be that the successful business entrepeneur that runs it is using it as a 'tax break' - or he's recouping his running costs via an alternative means. I'm just a cynical old bastard.
or it could be that he doesnt care so much about money and is doing it to help combat the spread of hiv...if this is successful im sure theyd be able to receive tons of donations.
Wow. Talk about a confession.
And this final post nails it.
i'm not a bot. you're an idiot. i don't understand why some of you are so bitter over this. something new comes along in the fight against a disease all gay men dread and instead of finding out more about it at least, you're spreading hate and claiming that i'm a bot. Why not embrace something that has good intentions? If it's something you dont think would help then make your arguments and give your opinions...don't get childish about the situation...be a grown up and give some honest advice. I couldnt think of a better place to mention this...so am i wrong for bringing it to the attention to the people on this forum? Yes, i wasnt a part of this forum before because i had not much interest in it...but i found this is where a lot of my fellow gay folks congregate.
Well if a cure for HIV ever shows up and I'm the only one to know about it, i'll make sure to never post the information in here...good lord!
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This link is not about fighting a disease.
This is about exposing those that have it. There is a clear cut and very astute difference.
You want to fight it? Send money to researchers and wear a condom in the meantime, every time.
I may not think you're a bot but clearly I think you're an ass for all of this. Both of your faces are showing and they both make you look bad. There is no good intention in something that amounts to exposing someone's personal and medical information for no good reason other than to have that info - and for the site to also have that info and spread it to whoever they choose. You can't possibly be so naive as not to see that - but sadly, based on the fact that you're still fighting in favor of it, perhaps you are.
Which makes you a dangerous thinker.
This is about exposing those that have it. There is a clear cut and very astute difference.
You want to fight it? Send money to researchers and wear a condom in the meantime, every time.
I may not think you're a bot but clearly I think you're an ass for all of this. Both of your faces are showing and they both make you look bad. There is no good intention in something that amounts to exposing someone's personal and medical information for no good reason other than to have that info - and for the site to also have that info and spread it to whoever they choose. You can't possibly be so naive as not to see that - but sadly, based on the fact that you're still fighting in favor of it, perhaps you are.
Which makes you a dangerous thinker.
Where, oh where, did I say you were a bot? You're a real person promoting your website and hoping thousands of idiots will give you money for it. Well, this idiot won't be one of them.
so should people who are hiv negative and arent interested in having sex with someone who is poz feel guilty? there is no need to share your hiv status outside of the bedroom so this shouldnt impact normal social settings.
so do you think it is wrong for people to ask for paper test results before they engage in sexual activity, or should they just rely on someone's word? keeping in mind that many people lie.....??
we've been sending money to researchers for YEARS and wearing condoms for the past couple decades...apparently it hasnt been working out...this is a new option.
if it sexually segregates hiv positive people in the bedroom, so be it...
for the millionth time i have nothing to do with the site. i'm promoting change in the fight against hiv because the methods we have in place are not working very well. ..and if this proves to not work, then hey it should be abandoned...but what other options do we have to turn to?
you should read up on the site more...you're personal sti test information would not be shared with anyone unless you give them permission. i feel if you're not willing to share your "personal" sti/hiv test results then you shouldn't be having sexual intercourse with another person. where's the maturity and personal responsibility in letting your partner know you've been tested and don't have any diseases?
Saran Wrap would offer more protection than that website.
The concept is sound, but its execution is so flawed as to be useless. People have been ignoring the dangers of HIV for decades. Even the Popes have been ignoring it. There are legitimate websites with plenty of valuable information which is being ignored. There are condoms available everywhere, and if you can't afford them, there are places which will give them to you for free.
Even if you're not connected with this website, you're promoting something which actually puts people's lives on the line. You are giving them the go-ahead to put all of their faith on a few words in a text message and not to use proper protection.
You just refuse to see that. You're not preventing HIV. You're increasing the possibility of it by making people feel that they are safe.
well i guess people see it different ways. i don't see this as a way to help people bareback. i would STILL use protection and use this as a supplemental tool to help me know the people i have sex with are hiv negative. and to be honest, i'd rather know two people have been tested and share results before barebacking than for two people to bareback without having ANY information at all. Yes i know it's wrong to use this as a tool to bareback but you must agree it is the lesser of the two evils. people who bareback now usually have no documentation that someone has tested hiv negative. would you rather give them a tool to document it, or keep things they way they are now? i dont condone barebacking, period! but if it were to happen, id rather know the parties involved at least have seen some sort of documentation, preferably recent ones too...
and the site isnt promoting itself as an excuse to bareback. you should ALWAYS wear condoms.
That final statement alone makes the entire website redundant.
People who always use condoms and insist that their partner use them as well won't bother with the website. People who prefer bareback will. That website will make them think they are safe. That website does more to spread HIV than to prevent it.
But you won't see that. You're convinced that the website is actually serving some purpose. It isn't. . . at least not in a beneficial way.
But then, I'm just an 'idiot', right?
Have a nice day.
well as someone who isnt interested in having sex with anyone who is infected with hiv, it serves a lot of purpose...and apparently i'm not alone. and even if people who bareback use it, i think they'd be better off with the service than without. just because you monitor your status doesnt mean you stop educating people about the use of condoms. it's a great tool for responsible people who want to remain negative...and honestly, i dont think people will go around fucking people bareback after joining, and if they do, they will likely be that population of people who were destined to get HIV anyway from bad sexual behavior.
well .. you were given a second chance and not banned for being a spammer. I don't know what gave you the impression that we would allow you to re-post the url a couple of posts later. As I said .. act like one, be treated like one. Also spammers who want to insult our users, are never allowed back
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