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What do you think?

Lucas, I'm as confused as you now. Something just doesn't add up.

He may have some issues that have nothing to do with you. What kind of student is he? Could he fear that he flunking out and he will be moving back home? Could one of his girl friends be moving or having problems?

I believe that he is gay or at least bi. Considering all the things he did, he was clearly flirting with you. Sometimes when you dream about something and it appears likely to happen, it can be very frightening. He may have been a little freaked out when you dropped your extremely clear hints. I do think it is a good sign that he contacted you.

I would still try to get some alone time with him and give him the opportunity to open up to you. Don't push it and back off on the coming out for a bit, unless he asks you about it. I would try to keep things as normal as possible and see how he reacts. See if he still initiates physical contact, repeats your name or flirts with you in some other way. If he does, he's still interested. If he doesn't, it's time to move on. Good luck.
 
It took me forever to tell my best friend the two biggest things in my life.

A) My parents were getting divorced because my dad was an alcoholic
B) That I was gay and in love with him

Eventually, about 9 months after they had split up he spends the night at my house, we are doing a school project, and he notices about 8 that my father isn't around (he didn't really like my dad, I didn't really like his dad, we both had some daddy problems). I tell him, he laughs, and asks again. When we finally get through this stage, he is incredibly mad and upset. He is sorry and feels bad for me, but he also feels betrayed. Why wouldn't I, my best friend tell him something this important in my life. I can offer a lot of reasons. I looked for that perfect moment to tell him, it never came. It wasn't something I was ready to talk about either. But I should have told him. However, what he never understood was that I was getting support from him just knowing that if I did tell him he would have been there for me. Yeah, it was a really poor decision, but I wasn't thinking fully rationally. And it wasn't that different after he found it. It was barely mentioned. But the knowledge that he would be there if and when I needed them was a huge relief to me before and after I told him. For me at the time, that was more than enough and it kept me going.

Story B I won't delve into, because I totally screwed the pooch on that.

So I can understand his feelings. He should tell you, and I think he knows that, but you are doing what you should be doing. It's not a lack of trust in you, or at least I doubt it is, its his inability or his unwillingness to communicate whats going on.
 
So he may have issues... He just told me someone's moving.. I think it's not him. He's really smart and intelligent. In highschool he was always in the upper ranked students. He's really smart. And I believe (in him) that he can manage he's just insecure and he feels inferior.. he told me that.

So I don't know who's moving.. but I bet it's someone important to him. I just don't know. he won't tell me. I know he doesn't have a special someone.. Maybe someone close to him is moving away. So I guess that's it. I'm letting him move in his own pace, I just let him know that I'm here for him if he needs someone to talk to or some help. I guess he knows that and it's just up to him if he would like to open up. I won't force him to.

But I guess the freaked out part really isn't such a big thing... Since he contacted me anyway yesterday just letting me know he's there and online again.. buzzing me and all.

So I guess he isn't freaked out at all. It just doesn't connect. If he were freaked out by all the gay hints / my clear hints then he wouldn't have contacted me in the first place and when I told him "I'm here if you need help and someone to talk to just tell me" well, I guess if he were freaked out, that would have been a good point to freak out again. But he willingly acknowledged it and said "Thanks..." and "You already did.. I mean help me".

He's just going through some big issues I'd say. And it's really affecting him I could tell. He going through a lot now...

We haven't had the chance to meet up just yet. Maybe these coming days we would see each other again for sure. So I'm just here right now as a friend, I'm not delving into my interest / the romance yet. I'm just letting him know I'm open and always here... He's just gonna have to reach out, and ultimately, I couldn't help him if he doesn't allow me to.. If he doesn't open up. I want him to, and I ask him what's wrong and I show interest in what he's going through.. I'm just "going" with him.
 
Hey Lucas.
The best way to get someone to open up to you is to open up to them. It demonstrates your trust and friendship. If someone confides a deep personal secret to me it makes me feel I can tell them my secrets. In fact it makes me WANT to tell them my secrets if only to demonstrate how much I appreciate the fact that they value my friendship enough to tell me theirs.

Think about this as you wander round in ever decreasing circles! (*8*)

PS. When I say "open up" I mean tell not hint!
 
Lucas, I want to clear that I thought it was a great sign that he contacted you. If by chance he was a little freaked out, contacting you showed he was over it. From what you just wrote, it doesn't sound like it has anything to do with you.

Good to know it doesn't look like a school problem. dunno260 brings up a good possibility. Could his parents being have problems. Maybe he is worried his dad will be moving out? Of course I have absolutely nothing to base this on, but it could explain why he doesn't want to talk about the person who may be moving. I think you are doing the right thing by being supportive and giving it a little time before you address your feelings with him. I would continue the no pressure offers to hang out.

By the way, I'm very impressed with how you are handling this. You are placing your concern for your friend in front of your needs. I'm sure it is hard, but it's the right thing to do.
 
Lucas ... Sounds like everyone is WITH You in this! My BEST to Both of You!! (group)

Keep smilin'!! :kiss: (*8*)
Chaz ;)
 
An Update :

I came out to Matt last night!
Finally did it, of course, couldn't have done it without "YOUR" ;) help.
(*8*) (*8*) (*8*) (*8*)

How did it go? Here's the whole story

Days before I told him to go online since I wanted to tell him something, as you guys know, I've been hinting like craaaazyyy since day 1. I was finally gaining the courage to tell him, even face to face, but conditions were just never right so i just asked him to please go online as it is private, one on one, and etc.

I have been asking him "when are you going to be online" and stuff like that through text and finally he did go online yesterday. He messaged me first about stuff he was supposed to send me. I knew this is it. The moment of truth.

My heart was pounding! It hurt like crap. I was cold, I felt like I needed a blanket. I told him "Can I talk to you" and of course he said "Sure. Just wait a minute I have to put beers in the freezer". I was shaking now, It was such a different feeling. I was about to tell this guy something I hold my deepest secret. I was about to reveal my "real self".

So he came back. I told him about how hard it was for me to do this, and how serious and important this was.. I was so nervous. I was doing deep breaths in and out, trying to compose myself. Was I about to do it? I'm already in the prelude. I was still typing or should I say waiting for that final surge of courage to press the enter key. My fingers were flying over the key just waiting for the final push. I have already typed in the "message" that contained everything, I kept him waiting for minutes, me trying to get myself together. So I copied it first, erased it and told him "sorry, I'm still typing" just showing you how nervous I was. He responded "no problem. Take all your time". It was a nice thing he was still there to wait for me, If I had taken the time as he said, it would have been hours. I felt like a mess! I've been doing breathing and all that shit pregnant women do. You get the picture.

So I've pasted "the message" i've typed before. My finger is just inches away from pressing the enter key and finally sending that message into cyberspace to him. An angel (hahaha (*8*) ) Finally told me to do it. I just had to press it and it's all over. I was just wimping out and looking for other reasons not to. It had to be done. So I said, a countdown would make this so much fun. So there was a countdown. 10 seconds, but it was literally a second. The 3 letter word screamed it's meaning at me..

NOW

The muscles in my arm lifting my hand finally relaxed. I let it drop and pressed the enter key. My message is sent. It finally hit me. Oh my, I even having a hard time putting it into words right now. The feeling is immense. I felt like screaming. I so wanted a hug so tight that felt like the sun. ;)

Did I just do that? DID I JUST DO THAT? I kept asking myself in my mind. I was still trembling. Holy shit. I just did it. So it was the longest few seconds in my life waiting.

Finally Matt responded.

"you know what... In highschool I thought I was gay. But I'm not. I may be bi to the extremes"

"That's okay..."

He understood where I was. He even told me about himself. I won't put the whole dialogue here, I would try to make things short.

So Matt is not gay... he is bi. At least that's what he thinks and is at now. I came out to him and he somewhat came out to me too. Like what he said before when we talked "give and take". It was unbelievable that he understood and he actually went through what I have been going through. So we're both bi. For him love isn't connected to sexuality.

Those 2 female friends I've been talking about. They knew all along. So he told me there were 3 of us who knew about him.

The feeling after this is all surreal. I still can't believe that happened, the day after. I finally dropped it. I trusted him, i took the plunge. And in return he told me stuff he hasn't told me before.

I'm really happy now that he accepted me. He listened and he opened up too. I look forward to the development of our friendship. I know that has made us much closer. I look forward to the future and what this might bring as good friends. We could be so much open to each other now. In fact, yesterday when saying our goodbyes, for the first time, we exchanged hugs and really, it was different already. This friendship has grown and matured for the better.

I thank you guys for all the support you have given me. For all the advice along the way. The time you have alloted for typing, the thought you have poured into them. Thank you for your kindness. Thanks for the hugs (*8*)

Couldn't have done it without this community.
Thank you guys!

(*8*) (*8*) (*8*) (*8*) :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: ..| ..|

Why can't there be a sun and pizza emoticon here. Oh well. :kiss: (*8*) *wink wink*

This is a new start!
The beginning!

Wow, I actually did it. :gogirl:
 
Well done Lucas
That took real guts I know. Thank you for sharing the outcome with us so others can learn from your experiences. You write it so well I almost feel I was there! Have a sun warmed Pizza on me!
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pizza.gif
:D (*8*)
 
LUCAS!! (group) :hurray: (!w!) :wow: ..| :=D: ..|

Keep smilin'!! :kiss: (*8*)
Chaz ;)
 
OMG! Yes! Yes! Yes!

Wait, that's... well you know what I mean, lol.

GAWD, I had butterflies reading your post! Then I got a huge smile on my face.

Lucas, that's awesome. We're proud of ya! You did it!

(*8*)
 
definitely, it's time to declare yourself - the sunshine in your life. Then the rest can have no doubts where you stand. as it is, this he said-shesaid - they said somebody said factor plus the two of u not having the 'real' communication already has things gummed up.
with you in the open, the guy - if interested - will have more reason to come forward. at at the very least, you will now be the real YOU.
ding
 
Good work Lucas!!!! Congratulations mate...you deserve that warm fuzzy feeling mate. Its been a journey worth the taking hey....I'm glad it all went so well for you.
I really hope you enjoy your new trust and freindship...congrats again mate!
 
Absolutely awesome! I've been waiting for an update and I'm glad it was such as good one. Now you can enjoy the holidays without all the what ifs running through your head. By the way, does anyone know what bi to the extreme means? I think it means far more gay than straight. In any case, congratulations.
 
Thats so great! I hope you have some more positive follow up! I feel so happy for you! He's a good friend, you gotta hold on for sure!
 
i just finished reading all the posts, when i came out to my sister she was beyond supportive but i know lying in bad after talking, i regretted it a bit but i was DOWN and out, no pun intended, but she gave me the courage and strength to be confident in my sexuality and now i tell everyone i meet and i have never lost a friend new or old over it, i think my being bi adds another dynamic to my personality, and believe me, the frustrations will not be the same ever again, just make sure you are comfortable in your self and have a close group of friends, i have both now, and my unbelievable sister, i am truly blessed, my plan is to come out to my mom when she comes back from her vacay, but seriously life is very good, even with "straight" guys ;)

CONGRATULATIONS, the world is yours
 
Congrats, I wasn't here for your big update and thought you actually disapeared. I searched your name and saw that you update.

Congratulations Lucas :D

So what is it like 2-3 weeks later?
 
Yeah :D Thanks Roland and to everyone... Yes, it is now reality and a fact that someone knows who I truly am. And they've accepted me.. and surprisingly that person is the same as me...

Matt and I are still good friends now. We bump into each other.. But as for now, that's that. I kinda have this feeling that we have a crush on each other.. but that is another "saga" to be. Thank you everyone
 
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