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What if the only kind of guys you're attacted to are no longer attacted to you?

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Hi guys. I'm new here. In fact this is my very first post. So let me start by telling you a little bit about myself. (I will apologize in advance that this is going to be quite lengthy.)

I grew up (and still live) in a VERY conservative part of the US, that is not exactly "gay friendly." I was raised by my ultraconservative, Christian grandparents. Their philosophy on life is essentially, you don't drink, you don't smoke, you don't dance, and you don't hang out with those who do...you don't have sex outside of heterosexual marriage, and homosexuality is a SIN that must be repented of. Yah, that pretty much sums it up. And yet, despite all of that, I knew from the time I was very young that I was attracted to other boys...long before I had ever heard the words "homosexual" or "gay". I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt what I was; I have always just accepted it. It’s just who and what I am. There have always been a few people here and there who have known, and yet, coming out fully has NEVER an option for me. I guess I have always treated my sexuality as a “need-to-know” thing, and the truth is, not everyone “needs to know,” nor could everyone handle the truth if they did know. But to be totally honest, it’s always surprised me that more people haven't figured it out on there own--though I suspect that many have and just refused to accept it and therefore remained willfully ignorant.

In some ways I was just your typical Midwest boy, growing up in the early 80's. I liked many stereotypical "boy" things. I like playing with toy cars and my Star Wars action figures. I liked Star Trek, and learning about dinosaurs and astronomy. Yah, I was a typical boy in some ways; and yet in many ways I wasn't. I was always a very sensitive boy, very affectionate and cuddly. I was never into sports and was never all rough and tumble like the other boys. In fact, I was always a little intimidated by the other boys and would not fight back when picked on...which happened a lot, especially in grade school. Oh, and btw I never liked having my hands dirty (still don't). Let's just say, it would have been pretty obvious even back then that I was gay to anyone who knew what to look for and/or wasn't in denial.

I attended public school, up though my 6th grade year. Despite being extremely intelligent, I and school never got along very well. I was what would now be called an ADHD child, in addition I also had several learning disabilities (including a mild form of dyslexia), but this would not be diagnosed until I was in the 8th grade, after I had already been held back two grades. I knew the material, but because it took me so long to do the home and in-class work, I would get so frustrated that I would eventually stop doing it. Likewise, I struggled taking tests; I would fail them, not because I didn't know the answers, but because I couldn't complete them in the time allotted. Everyone just assumed that because I was so smart that I must have just been lazy and didn't care. My teachers use to keep me in during most recesses as punishment and to finish assignments, which only served to make me hate school and alienated me from my classmates and gave them yet another reason to pick on me. I tell you all of this just to explain why my grandparents decided to enroll me in a private, Christian school following my failed 6th grade year. They knew how much I was struggling in public school and knew it would only get worse once I got into Middle School.

Despite what you might think, after an initial period of adjustment, I actually came to really enjoy my years at my new school. I got a LOT more personalized attention for my academics, and was very involved in theater, art and music, in a way I probably wouldn't have gotten to do in public school. I also formed a lot great friendships, some of them continue to this day. But as you can imagine, it wasn't always easy being the only (or so I though, though I have since learned there was at least one other) gay boy going to a religious school. Once again, coming out was simply not an option. If I had even hinted at the fact that I was gay I would have been kicked out of school for sure and fast. It really sucked at times having crushes on some of the cute boys there at school and not being able to tell them or show it in any way.

Anyway... It was a very small school. At the time I started attending, the school housed kindergarten though 7th grade. In the following years they added additional grades until it was finally k-12. By the time I graduated, there were probably about a total of 150 students in the entire school, where about half (or a little less) of those comprised the "Upper School", meaning 7th - 12th graders. Because the school was so small, there were a lot of times where, in order to have enough students, classes (especially elective type classes, as well as extracurricular activities) were comprised of students from any number of the Upper School grades. I tell you this just to point out that the typical separations between the grades that usually happens in public schools simply didn't happen and wasn't practical at my school. As a result, even as a (20 y/o - remember I was held back twice) senior, I became good friends with many of the 7th - 11th grade guys and thought of them as piers and equals, despite the fact that some of them were 6 or 7 years younger then me. In fact, virtually all of my friends were between 2 and 4 years younger then me. Is it any wonder then, that most of the guys that I had crushes on were also quite a bit younger then me?

This brings me to the purpose of why I'm writing all of this...

I have always preferred younger guys, even when I was just a young a boy of 12 or 13 y/o. I guess you’d say I'm something of an atypical gay man, in that I have never been attracted to mature, adult masculinity, per say. In fact, to be totally honest, even to this day, the only guys I truly find attractive are the ones that look more like overgrown boys then they do grown men--what you would call twinks--you know like 18 to 22 y/o's who look about 14, 15, 16. This fixation on really young-looking, “pretty” guys didn't seem so unreasonable (or maybe the word I am looking for is "creepy") back when I was still in High School or when I was trying to find guys to date back in my early to mid 20's. Plus, you have to understand that I too looked REALLY young for my age back then. (I was a twink. I mean, at 18 I looked like I was about 14; at 21 I looked about 16 or 17.) The problem is that I keep getting older, but the age range and type of the guys I’m attracted to hasn’t changed at all in 15 years, or so. And believe me, I am certainly painfully aware that I am no longer the young, thin, rather cute “boy” that I was back then. For me, one of the biggest curses of being gay is that I have an unfortunate tendency to judge myself (and perhaps sometimes far too harshly) against the type of guys that I am attracted to; and since I’m now, at 37 y/o, about the polar opposite of what I personally find attractive, its really hard to have any kind of a positive self-image. Likewise, it’s hard for me to even imagine how any cute, young guy could ever like me or choose me over some other far younger and cuter guy closer to his own age.

(Don't get me wrong. I enjoy hanging out or visiting with other gay guys of ANY age as friends, but it’s just that when it comes to physical and sexual attraction, it’s only the really young-looking guys that turn me on. I don’t know why those are the only guys I’m attracted too. I wish I could be attracted to guys closer to my own age…but I’m not. And unfortunately, as much as I might want to, I can no more change the kind of guys I am attracted too, then I could choose to change my sexuality in general.)

I won't bore you with all the sad details of my life since High School, but suffice it to say that, as I said, I am now 37 years old, and still I have never been in a serious relationship or even had what I would consider to be a true boyfriend. The few guys I have been with in the past were at best Bi (meaning that they really preferred girls, but would mess around with me once and awhile but only when it suited them). But honestly, I would take that over what I have had the past few years...which is NOTHING. It’s been 10 - 15 years now since I have been on a date or had sex or anything. I get so lonely at times and so desperately wish I could, for once in my life, have what so many people take for granted—the chance to love someone that I am truly attracted to and who is in turn is genuinely attracted to me and loves me back. It seems like all my life I have wanted what I couldn’t have; and now that the best years of my youth are far behind me, and the years since have not been so kind, I fear I may never have the chance again.
 
Hi Raven

For a start not all really young-looking guys are attracted only to each other. Since moving to a big city recently I've been surprised at the... diversity? of some of the couples i've come across! Lots of boys do look for a 'daddy' figure - some for sex, some for a relationship.
From your post on the other thread I know you live in a small town. Is there any possibility you could consider moving somewhere bigger? You're more likely to find greater sexual opportunity in a place where there are more gay guys and more guys comfortable expressing their preferences.
 
Hi Greendragon,

Thanks for your reply! It’s nice to hear that there really are young guys out there that don't mind being with older guys. Just wish I could find some (or even just one would be great! LOL). But to answer your question, as much as I would love to, moving simply isn't possible for me right now. First of all, I don't have the money to move to a big city (or anywhere for that matter). I just recently started a new job (one that I can honestly say I really love, btw) after being out of work for over a year, so I am still struggling to get my financial affairs back in order. Also I have over the past few years become the de facto primary care provider for my now elderly grandparents, as my Aunts and Uncles live too far away and are simple not able to do it. I love my grandparents, despite our obvious ideological differences, and I'm glad I can be there to help take care of them. That said, it is never easy to be an adult child (of any age) living with your parents. My Grandmother in particular, bless her heart, is a force of nature. She can be very sweet at times, but she is also one of those little old ladies that has to be in everybody's business (especially mine), and loves to tell everyone what they should and shouldn't be doing. She considers any disagreement, no matter how carefully expressed, to be a form of disrespect, and gets very upset. And she can be very domineering and controlling. She still treats me like I'm about 12 y/o, despite the fact that I'm getting close to 40. She still tries to tell me where I can and can't go, what I can and can't do, what I should eat, how I should spend my money, and, oh ya, she still tries to set my bed time. ](*,) Half the time I just give up and do what she wants because its simply easier then arguing with her about it. Needless to say, this living arrangement, while necessary at this point in my life, is often very stressful and it certainly doesn't lend itself to having much of a dating life or any kind of a social life of any kind for that matter.

Oh, and in case you are wondering, no, my grandparents (nor any of my immediate family) still do not know that I'm gay, and if I have anything to say about it, its going to stay that way. It's not that I have ever, even as a child, feared that they would reject me for being gay. I know they would love me regardless. But that love does not equate to acceptance of me living a lifestyle that they deem perverse and immoral, and therefore it would become a heated point of contention between us; and I just don't want to waste the last few years of their lives constantly arguing over something about which we're never going to agree anyway. It’s just not worth it.
 
Sound like a pedo. I mean, it's normal for a 3rd or 4th or 5th grader to like other 4th 5th or 6th graders. It's not ok to keep seeing them as romantic interests as you grow into an adult. Yuk. I'm out of here!
 
^I didn't take it that way.

Welcome to JUB. There are plenty of Twinks that like older guys. This attraction is going to raise more eyebrows than you are already raising.

As far as your grandparents/parents are concerned, you need to show them in subtle and not so subtle ways that you are adult requiring freedom and an occasional thank you.

Think about how your grandmother was acting at your age. I'm sure pretty much the same as she is now. And you're waiting until she dies in order to live? She's demanding too much. Do what you have to to exert some independence. Tell her what you have to to spend time elsewhere from time to time. She might be trying to protect you from some of her old "sins."
 
Sound like a pedo. I mean, it's normal for a 3rd or 4th or 5th grader to like other 4th 5th or 6th graders. It's not ok to keep seeing them as romantic interests as you grow into an adult. Yuk. I'm out of here!


Really rjmrjm21? Really?!!!!

Now that is EXACTLY the kind of nonsense reaction I get all too often on gay message boards when I try to talk about liking younger guys. Did you even bother to read what I wrote? Where in all that did I say, or even imply, that I was attracted to 4th, 5th or 6th graders? Sure I liked boys that age when I was like 12 y/o, but that is not what I am interested in now. I’m NOT talking about liking children here!!!! I’m talking about liking 18, 19, 20 y/o MEN—legal ADULTS—who simply happen to LOOK really young for their age. If you can’t be bothered to read what I wrote, then don’t bother replying.
 
You've certainly limited yourself, but I guess we can't control what we like. There are 18-20 yr olds (and make sure they're legal! Really!) who will like guys your age, but often times they want money. And a relationship with an 18 year old... very hard. Even as a 25 year old I couldn't really see myself with someone 18.

Not saying it's impossible. You've just narrowed the field. Most gay men are not 18-20 and not twinky and young and cute. They are like 1% of our small gay population.
 
You've certainly limited yourself, but I guess we can't control what we like. There are 18-20 yr olds (and make sure they're legal! Really!) who will like guys your age, but often times they want money. And a relationship with an 18 year old... very hard. Even as a 25 year old I couldn't really see myself with someone 18.

Not saying it's impossible. You've just narrowed the field. Most gay men are not 18-20 and not twinky and young and cute. They are like 1% of our small gay population.


Hi Youngnihilist,

Well, it's just not a simple matter of "choosing" to limit myself. I really wish that was all it was. Things would certainly be a LOT simpler if I were attracted to guys closer to my own age. It would certainly make finding other guys to be with much, much easier; and as you pointed out, dating guys that young can come with its own set of challenges. But as I have already stated, we don't always have the luxury of choosing who we are attracted to.

There is a unique quality and a kind of beauty embodied within boyhood that is almost feminine. As we mature into men, we start to loose that quality as we take on more adult, more masculine traits. But some boys are fortunate enough to retain an echo of that beauty even into early adulthood...the perfect convergence of masculinity and femininity all in one angelic package. THAT is the trait to which I am hopelessly and uncontrollably drawn. For me, no purely masculine visage, no matter how handsome, can ever hope to compete with that.
 
Doesn't that mean you can't possibly have a long-term relationship then as you would have to break up with your boyfriend as soon as he outgrew 'The Look' ???
 
O.K. you're basically only interested in guys who are basically boys, emotionally I mean, and you're closeted, and you live in BFE.

What part of this formula equates to good relationship prospect? I mean you, not them. You can't ignore yourself and the kind of prospect you present, that's equally as important as finding guys who you would like to date. The very young are usually bad prospects for long term for a number of quite natural reasons. The closeted are bad prospects for other much more serious reasons.

I grew up in the country in Texas - from a devout Southern Baptist - all faggots are going straight to hell - Southern Baptist kind of family, and you know what, it's possible to get over that.

People who live where there is limited choice have less chance, and if you are closeted and won't put yourself in the center of whatever choice there may be, you've fucked yourself. Almost nowhere in the US are you that far from some urban center with a gay presence. If you won't go find it. That IS a choice YOU make. It's your life and if you won't try to better it yourself, no one can help you.

As to ATTRACTION. When I was newly out, and had lots of hang ups, I wouldn't date any guy who wasn't white, and calling himself SA/SA, because I had hangups, and wouldn't date - OR feel attracted to guys who weren't just like me. But you know what, as I evolved as a person, the narrow category I was sure was immutable attraction changed completely.

The very narrowly defined, and somewhat fetishistic attractions that I had convinced myself were just that, actually had large components of self hatred and prejudice at their core.

Is that you? I don't know, but anytime I see a guy who tells me that he is ONLY attracted to a very narrow and extremely stereotypical category - I strongly suspect.
 
Doesn't that mean you can't possibly have a long-term relationship then as you would have to break up with your boyfriend as soon as he outgrew 'The Look' ???


Well that is the “elephant in the room” isn’t it?

That very question has haunted me for many years now, and the problem is I truly and sincerely do not know the answer.

I would like to think that if I ever did meet the right guy and we fell in love, that I and our relationship would mature as he matured so by the time he outgrew ‘The Look’ it wouldn’t really matter. I would be in love with HIM rather then just obsessing over how he looked. After all, many couples come together by physical attraction, but stay together though love and commitment. I hope that would be my reaction, but because I’ve never had to face that situation, I can’t say with 100% certainty how I would feel—and that doubt really bothers me.
 
Raven:
You sound like a terrific guy - BUT you've put yourself in a bubble that you will not let yourself get out of.

I agree with all the advice you've been given - except that from rjmrjm21.

You are 37 and living with elderly relatives. You are living in a small town without much prospects for change. None of the other descendants of said relatives are willing or able to help.

Well - as seasoned suggested - that is too high a price to pay. It doesn't sound like your grandparents expect you to take care of them - it sounds like you feel an innate sense to do it. That is commendable - but... Let's say that they live for another 15 years. That makes you 52 - Is that when you will allow yourself to lead your own life?

I have young children - I hope - and pray - that they never sacrifice their own lives for my own. I hope i have the presence of mind to not allow it. Gay or straight - your living arrangements are going to be a detriment to you.

Just how far are you from a city of let's say 1 million people? Minneapolis, Omaha, Milwaukee, Indianapolis, Kansas City? If you insist that there is no way you can leave - can you start leaving for weekends?

Now for you physical attractions. Aren't we all attracted to things we can't have? How many on here have companions that would turn heads in Hollywood? I'll bet not many. But there are many that would drool over them. So somewhere along the way we have to decide that there are things that are more attractive than physical appearance.

So start having friends. Don't worry about romance. Do you have many friends? Eventually some of them may elicit some attraction to you. You've shown your loyalty to your grandparents - i suspect that you have it in you to generate feelings for others.

37 isn't that old - but time passes quickly. If you choose to do nothing, you will be 50 and asking the same questions.

Please let yourself at least see life outside of your bubble.
 
TX-Beau & Shainski,

You guys are exactly right, at least insofar as what you are saying about the fact that I need to get out and live my own life. You two especially have sensed my frustration, cut though all the irrelevant BS and have totally hit the nail on the head. The real problem is NOT my inability to find someone to be with (though that is frustrating), nor is it about a lack of gay community where I live, nor is it even an issue of me being somewhat closeted (though let me say, I’m really not nearly as much so as it may sound based just on what I have written)—the real problem is my home situation…and its slowly killing me. Moving out, having a place of my own, and for the first time being able to simply BE a normal adult—to set my own schedules, to come and go as I please, to live MY life the way I want to—it might not fix everything in my life, but it would at least give me a fighting chance. But what you are suggesting, and what I know I must ultimately do, is difficult to say the least.

There is a song by the group Kansas, which sums up what I am feeling better then I ever could.


I'm woven in a fantasy, I can't believe the things I see
The path that I have chosen now has led me to a wall
And with each passing day I feel a little
more like something dear was lost
It rises now before me, a dark and silent barrier between,
All I am, and all that I would ever want be
It's just a travesty, towering, marking
off the boundaries my spirit would erase

To pass beyond is what I seek, I fear that I may be too weak
And those are few who've seen it through to glimpse the other side,
The promised land is waiting like a maiden that is soon to be a bride
The moment is a masterpiece, the weight of indecision's in the air
It's standing there, the symbol and the sum of all that's me
It's just a travesty, towering, blocking out the light and blinding me
I want to see

Gold and diamonds cast a spell, it's not for me I know it well
The treasures that I seek are waiting on the other side
There's more that I can measure in the treasure of the love that I can find
And though it's always been with me, I must tear down the Wall and let it be
All I am, and all that I was ever meant to be, in harmony
Shining true and smiling back at all who wait to cross
THERE IS NO LOSS
 
Hi Youngnihilist,

Well, it's just not a simple matter of "choosing" to limit myself. I really wish that was all it was. Things would certainly be a LOT simpler if I were attracted to guys closer to my own age. It would certainly make finding other guys to be with much, much easier; and as you pointed out, dating guys that young can come with its own set of challenges. But as I have already stated, we don't always have the luxury of choosing who we are attracted to.

There is a unique quality and a kind of beauty embodied within boyhood that is almost feminine. As we mature into men, we start to loose that quality as we take on more adult, more masculine traits. But some boys are fortunate enough to retain an echo of that beauty even into early adulthood...the perfect convergence of masculinity and femininity all in one angelic package. THAT is the trait to which I am hopelessly and uncontrollably drawn. For me, no purely masculine visage, no matter how handsome, can ever hope to compete with that.

If you got an 18 year old twinky bf somehow, they arent going to be 18 and twinky forever. What happens when he becomes 25 and average? or 30 etc

It's a tough dilemma. I'm not sure I buy the "we can't control what we're attracted to". I knew guys who had impossible standards but lowered (or I should say, altered) them and now they're happy.
 
I'm not sure I buy the "we can't control what we're attracted to". I knew guys who had impossible standards but lowered (or I should say, altered) them and now they're happy.


In the thread “Bi guys just don't seem to understand...” DanimalX wrote:

...how I can find vaginas to be absolutly disgusting. They are very unappealing to me.
I consider myself to be 100% gay, I am in no way attracted to vaginas, or women in general. But my bi friends can't comprehend this fact, and keep insisting that I should have sex with a woman at least once.

Anyone else have this problem with bi guys? Why don’t they get it?


In some ways I feel like I’m having to ask that same question here.

The simple fact of the matter is, there is almost as much of a radical difference between men and boys as there is between men and women in terms of their respective standards of physical attractiveness. Granted we may not consider 18 to 20 y/o men “boys” in the strictest sense, and yet the guys in that age range, at least the ones that I find the most attractive, are attractive to me because they still possess that boyish quality that sets them totally apart from older, more mature, more masculine men. Sure they are still most definitely male, which is why I love them, but their boyishness puts them on a completely different attractiveness scale then other men. I have a completely, totally, radically different reaction to them then I do to older men.

Let me put it another way. When I see an “older” guy, say a 30, 40, 50 y/o man, as a general rule, I feel nothing—NO physical or sexual attraction whatsoever. The reaction I have to him is no different then what I would suppose any strait guy would have towards another man. I mean, I can still tell whether an older guy is hansom or not, but the fact that he is hansom, in and of itself, does elicit any particular desire in me, anymore then a women being “beautiful” would compel me to desire her. I’m not attracted to women…and I’m not attracted (as a general rule) to masculine men. Period.

Your argument is essentially that my attraction to younger guys is little more then a sexual fetish, and that I should get over it and learn to be more “mainstream” gay. To be quite honest, I find that a little insulting (even though I'm sure you didn't intend it to come across that way). Far from a simple fetish, I see my attraction to these boyish young men as something completely separate and unique from the typical gay experience—almost a completely different form of sexual orientation—a subset of homosexuality for sure, and yet distinctly different. Telling me I should have to modify or lower my “standards” in order to be attracted to guys that I am simply not attracted to, is no different then DanimalX’s bi friends trying convince him that he weird for not having any attraction to women and that if he would just try being with a woman once he might change his mind. It doesn’t work that way, the suggestion is insulting, and ultimately whole presumption is just dead wrong.

As to what implications this has towards the possibility of having a long-term relationship, as I said before, I’m just not sure. I’m not totally sure it is possible. But then again, given the age difference, a long term relationship might not be possible anyway, for any of a dozen other non related issues. I still hold out hope that somehow love could win out over mere physical attraction and overcome all potential challenges, but having never had the opportunity to find out, I can’t honestly say with 100% certainty.
 
Wow JUB, what a relevant topic for me to finally involve myself in. I believe this will be my first post here, after a year or two of lurking in select boards.*

For starters, I am a 19 year old male who is essentially ONLY attracted sexually/emotionally to older men. I have been aware of this peculiar sexual niche ever since I discovered basic gay intergen porn (probably DaddysVsTwinks and the other E-Euro junkie romp-porn affiliated with it...)

Even before I noticed my peculiar sexual tastes, I did experience a certain level of shyness with older men as a young child. I just found something about older men really pleasurable and warm. I still do, every day. Of course, as I have gotten older, my personal perspective of what "older" is has changed. When I was 12, I probably would have said my "ideal age group" was mid-30s.*

Now, having had a few experiences with older men (none with male peers, a few with female peers), I can verify to the authenticity of my desires as they haven't been entirely static. I would say the majority of cuties that really grab my eyes out of the sockets are generally in their late 40s to late 50s. It would also be impossible for me to NOT notice that the majority of these men are stocky types.*

As "kin in intergen", I would like to defend the OP. Often times I find myself feeling like a "bad homosexual" or bad sexual being in general because of my specific tastes. Like the OP, outside of older men, I am 150% flaccid. Pretty much every one I have confided in this has argued with me about it.*

They tend to either think that I will "grow into" liking guys my age (or closer) or I will "grow out" of liking older men. The latter theory particularly upsets me because it suggests that my life's sexual development has been nothing but a "fling", which is complete bullshit.*
Obviously, there are a plethora of other reasons why I would continually choose older men.*

Most importantly, I have a better feel for them. (Pun intended ;-)
I have never mingled well with my peer groups. Sure, I have had good, close friends but amongst much older people is where I fit socially. You can imagine the odd situation puberty was for me! Well... I imagine it is odd for us all. One good thing, I never had to worry about getting a boner during gym glass or while playing with friends. Completely care free. I did however have a HUGE amount of lust for friend's parents, teachers, professors... Dress a cute stocky "daddy-type" in some slacks and a white shirt and it would be difficult for me to concentrate.*

As OP mentioned, the nature of intergenerational attraction seems to me, a bit different than conventional sexuality. I don't want to come off as if I think I am so unique and that it makes me more interesting, it doesn't. When I see an attractive man, I tend to think of them as "cute". Older men ARE sexy, its just I find myself swooning over features that zi find absolutely adorable. In preparation for scrutiny, please don't take the previous comments as if I depersonalize these men. In fact, I would go as far as to say that I am a Daddy Lover. This is just who I am.*

I wasn't always this aware or confident though. For a long period of time during early adolescence, I was terribly frightened. By that time I knew accurately of my sexuality but I was in a 12 year old's body. My body and mind were filled with so much lust and in patience that I remember just crying out for contact with these men, these fantasies that played endlessly in my head. I also knew at the time that it would be an entire 6 years (ended up being 3) until I had "real sex". The kind that fits your mind like a glove.*

As a kid (I still am...), I for some reason never expected myself to live to 18. Depression made sure of that being an irrational fear, at the time. I also worried about what would happen to men I may get involved with. I would have never told a soul (unless I was raped or assaulted of course) but regardless, I would be seriously endangering one in a group that I cannot help but love. Seriously.*

It is very difficult to explain and I don't feel like typing up a complete life story right now. Haha. I guess my intentions in this post were to possibly bring some insight into the topic and maybe give the OP a little hope. *As for OPs specific situation, I will comment later on it more directly.*
 
Hi Namebirthdate,

Thanks for your reply! I’m glad I was able to provide you a forum and an opportunity to open up about your feeling and attractions as well. It’s so nice to hear from somebody who understands from first hand experience what it is like to grow up with feelings and desires that few people, even other gays, can fully relate to and which don’t quite fit into the so-called normal, mainstream gay experience. Also it’s so awesome to hear from a nice young guy who is so obviously attracted to older guys! That’s really cool! I really enjoyed reading what you wrote and would love to hear even more about your experiences. I was amazed how so much of what you said reminded me of my own desires and insecurities growing up, despite the fact that our attractions were totally the reverse. I would love to chat with you at length sometime about all of this, if you’d like to.
 
Hey Raven, I sent you a PM. I would love to discuss intergenerational relationships with you. P
 
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