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What is new on the Gay Marriage front?

Alnitak brought to my attention through personal conversation that starting March 27, there will be a dispositive proceeding (oral arguments or trials) in US marriage cases every week through the foreseeable future. This strategy appears designed to shock the Supreme Court into a decision it can't back out of, and in which its hands are tied.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ians-marriage-same-sex-supreme-court/5876363/

So things are about to move EVEN FASTER!!!
 
scream4ever said:
Alnitak brought to my attention through personal conversation that starting March 27, there will be a dispositive proceeding (oral arguments or trials) in US marriage cases every week through the foreseeable future. This strategy appears designed to shock the Supreme Court into a decision it can't back out of, and in which its hands are tied.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ians-marriage-same-sex-supreme-court/5876363/

So things are about to move EVEN FASTER!!!
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Yeah that's right.

It's essentially a shock and awe campaign.
 
I don't get why the Supreme Court should be so shocked things are moving this quickly. Some of them had to know that having a system where you are legally married in some states and not in others would result in lawsuits sooner versus later.
 
Ninja108 said:
I don't get why the Supreme Court should be so shocked things are moving this quickly. Some of them had to know that having a system where you are legally married in some states and not in others would result in lawsuits sooner versus later.
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We all knew there would be more, but not 50 cases, out of which 30 are asking for the right to marry, and definitely not this fast. Now it looks like we will get an appeals decision in Bostic even before the first anniversary of that case!
 
The Republican dam is breaking.

Twenty Republican Senators are signing a "friend of the court" brief supporting the same-sex marriage position in the appellate cases now pending before the 10th Circuit.

Evoking Ronald Reagan and Barry Goldwater, a group of Western-state Republicans plans to enter the battle in favor of same-sex marriage on Tuesday, urging a federal appeals court to declare gay marriage bans in Utah and Oklahoma unconstitutional.

The most prominent of the approximately 20 signers of the brief are former Senator Alan K. Simpson of Wyoming, a longtime supporter of gay rights, and former Senator Nancy L. Kassebaum of Kansas, who said last year that she had reconsidered her former opposition to same-sex marriage. The document says that “marriage is strengthened” and “the social stability of the family unit are promoted” by allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/04/us/republicans-from-west-give-support-for-gay-marriage.html?ref=us
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palbert said:
The Republican dam is breaking.

Twenty Republican Senators are signing a "friend of the court" brief supporting the same-sex marriage position in the appellate cases now pending before the 10th Circuit.
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Keyword: former Republicans

Many Republicans have come out in support of gay rights after they left office. There's still hardly any that are willing to stand up for what's right when they have power.
 
Kentucky Attorney General Jack Conway says he won't be defending the Marriage Equality Ban

 
Alnitak said:
The final order in Kentucky was not stayed. It is now required for Kentucky to take requests for recognition on official documents until the 6th Circuit or Supreme Court says otherwise. The 6th Circuit is supervised by Justice Kagan.

It is also interesting that the first judge since Shelby to refuse a stay was appointed by George H.W. Bush.
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H.W. preferred to appoint judges for excellence rather than ideology -- the last of that tradition, I think.
 
Just_Believe18 said:
The momentum is exciting!
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Almost disorienting.
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Kulindahr said:
H.W. preferred to appoint judges for excellence rather than ideology -- the last of that tradition, I think.
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Other then Clarence Thomas. He is a far right nutjob who is even worse then Scalia and Alito.
 
So did he turn and over Suffolk's neck
He threw his wounded arm and kiss'd his lips;
And so espoused to death, with blood he seal'd
A testament of noble-ending love.
The pretty and sweet manner of it forced
Those waters from me which I would have stopp'd;
But I had not so much of man in me,
And all my mother came into mine eyes
And gave me up to tears.


History of Henry V

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http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2014/03/united-methodist-bishop-no-more-trials.html

United Methodist Bishop Martin McLee and Rev. Dr. Thomas W. Ogletree announced that the church was dropping the case against Dr. Ogletree for officiating at his son’s wedding. In a huge victory for the Methodist movement that is organizing ministry to all couples on an equal basis in open defiance of church law, the bishop dropped the case without any conditions. Furthermore, Bishop McLee said in his statement “I call for and commit to cessation of trials,” the first time ever a sitting United Methodist bishop has categorically declared he will not prosecute pastors for ministering to LGBTQ people.
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So does this mean that the Methodists are on track to becoming the first Mainline Protestant Denomination to endorse gay marriage?
 
scream4ever said:
The ELCA doesn't count?

It seems it only applies to NY, but it still will likely make waves in the church.
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Rev. Dr. Ogletree took the moral high ground and a lot of people support him. He is untouchable, and it just plain looked bad for the MEC to persecute an 80 year old man.
 
The last three Nordic countries will probably pass marriage equality this year: Finland, Greenland, and the Faroe Islands. Luxembourg will pass its bill by summer. So that's five this year counting Scotland. Next year, it is nearly certain that Ireland will reverse its constitutional prohibition and the US Supreme Court will rule on one of the current cases.

After that it's anybody's guess, but the long term outlook holds a lot of potential. I will group the discussion on other countries by language groups.

The language barrier makes it difficult to prognosticate, so the easiest ones for me to predict will be the English speaking ones. After Ireland and the US, only two Anglophonic countries remain: Australia and Northern Ireland. With all of the ongoing events, it is likely those two countries' conservatives will be pressured into relenting. The Liberal Party in Australia is already caving, but Tony Abbott has a strong will.

Four Asian countries are expected pass a gay union laws soon, possibly marriage, but details are literally lost in translation. My money says Taiwan will be first, but it could be Vietnam, Thailand, or Nepal.

None of the German speaking countries have equal marriage, but they all have substantial partnership laws. Countries and states that pass such laws tend to eventually pass equal marriage. The countries of Central Europe tend to be quite liberal, but their governments are dominated by powerful conservative factions. Despite support that approaches 75% in Germany, the CDU will not budge on marriage. After the last election, Merkel's CDU party was forced to form a coalition with SPD, which did not make good on its campaign promise for gay equality in the coalition agreement. Switzerland with its deeply conservative government is under threat of a constitutional amendment, and no progress is being made in either Austria or Liechtenstein.

The Hispanosphere is ripe for more equality laws. The Pacific coast of South America has been slow to adopt them, but there is reason to believe that will soon change. A court ruling in Ecuador is pending, the newly elected President of Chile is supportive of equal marriage, and couples continue to litigate in Colombia. Also, couples continue to litigate in Mexico, although it is harder for the judiciary to set precedent there.

The Western Hemisphere as a whole is on track to stand unanimous on this issue with few exceptions by the end of the decade.
 
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