What is new on the Gay Marriage front?

[JayHawk]

Interesting, Hawaii has been on the forefront of gay marriage for a long time. They legalized it at one point which was then blamed on 'lying tv ads' and voted down and then civil unions were installed.

 

[scream4ever]

Indeed,which can be helpful in passing this along. Keep in mind there is a lawsuit pending against the gay marriage ban and even thought it was clear before that civil unions before DOMA were seperate and unequal,since Section 3 has been struck down,it's become even more obvious.
Considering this is a special session,I don't think it would get called unless the votes are there.

The whip count showed 27/16 with 8 undecided in the House and 20/5 in the Senate.

 

[Ninja108]

If the number stays true,gay marriage will be legal in Hawaii,as 26 is the magic number.

 

[Alnitak]

Current status:

• 13 States (MA, CA, CT, IA, NH, VT, NY, ME, MD, WA, MN, RI, DE)
• New Mexico (8 counties)
• Pennsylvania (174 licenses pending)
• 6 Tribes

Pending actions:

-final resolution soon-​

• New Mexico - Pending state supreme court appeal October 23
  
• Hawaii - Pending special session October 28
  
• New Jersey - Pending superior court decision anytime. Veto override possible
  
• Illinois - Pending veto session Oct/Nov

-final resolution at a future time-​

• Oregon - Pending 2014 ballot
  
• Indiana - Constitutional ban pending 2014 ballot (likely the last one)
  
• Pennsylvania - Pending federal court and appeals in state court. Schedule conference September 30
  
• Nevada - Pending 2016 ballot and federal court (December briefs due)
  
• Michigan - Hearing for motions in federal court October 16
  
• Ohio - Hearing for motions in federal court December 18
  
• North Carolina - Briefs due November 15
  
• Texas - Divorce only. Oral argument at state supreme court on November 5
  

-New lawsuits without any scheduled dates-​

• Oklahoma, Utah, Arkansas (federal and state), Kentucky, South Carolina, Virginia

See Your complete guide to marriage efforts in each state @ AFER.ORG for more details

 

[palbert]

An update on the NJ veto override situation:

TRENTON — Under the din of a bustling election season, there’s a quiet movement afoot to make gay marriage a reality in New Jersey by the end of the year.

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ss...new_jersey_christie_veto_override_effort.html

 

[scream4ever]

September 30th for Pennsylvania is that for the state or federal case? Also the district court judge in Illinois is supposed to issue a ruling on motions/summary judgment very soon I believe.

 

[chrisrobin]

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Illinois?

 

[CowboyBob]

So Illinois may be the next state?

 

[Alnitak]

September 30th for Pennsylvania is that for the state or federal case? Also the district court judge in Illinois is supposed to issue a ruling on motions/summary judgment very soon I believe.

Federal.

The ruling on motions in Illinois is due this Friday the 27th. However, it will need to survive appeals if the judge approves summary judgment.

So Illinois may be the next state?

The next four will be in rapid succession in all likelihood making it difficult to predict the order. Illinois will be one of them, but Hawaii is likely to be first around November 2 or 3.

 

[chrisrobin]

So Illinois may be the next state?

I heard something new on my radio this morning. Somebody in the House that was awake brought up the economic value of equality of marriage. Maybe the invitation from the mayor of Minneapolis had something to do with it. "Come on up to Minneapolis," he said.

An interesting angle: not having equality of marriage might be damaging to Illinois' economy.
Old expression from noted economist, Pope Pius XII: "Money she's a talk - bullshit she's a walk."

 

[scream4ever]

It's my understanding that summary judgments move through the appeals process fast, so depending on the timing New Jersey and Illinois could beat Hawaii.

 

[chrisrobin]

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Gay marriage 'tourism': How big an economic boom for states?

http://news.yahoo.com/gay-marriage-tourism-big-economic-boom-states-175611709.html

When Minnesota enacted a same-sex marriage law this summer, Minneapolis Mayor R.T. Rybak saw an economic opportunity.
Earlier this month, he flew to Illinois – where legislators had recently failed to pass a same-sex marriage bill – to launch “Marry Me In Minneapolis.” Mayor Rybak invited same-sex couples from Chicago to wed (and spend a few dollars) in his city.

The Illinois House better get on the stick (so to speak).

 

[Alnitak]

It's my understanding that summary judgments move through the appeals process fast, so depending on the timing New Jersey and Illinois could beat Hawaii.

In the meantime, New Jersey trial courts cannot stay their own summary judgments. So that's something to look forward to.

 

[Ninja108]

The New Mexico Supreme Court will be hearing arguments Oct .23. It's possible they could leaglize gay marriage in NM that very dya or shortly thereafter.

 

[CowboyBob]

The New Mexico Supreme Court will be hearing arguments Oct .23. It's possible they could leaglize gay marriage in NM that very dya or shortly thereafter.

A flurry of activity in NM.

http://www.abqjournal.com/268083/news/factions-line-up-for-fight-over-samesex-marriage-in-nm.html

Republican state legislators, three county clerks, more than a dozen University of New Mexico School of Law professors, the American Civil Liberties Union and other state and national groups weighed in on the last day to file written arguments, giving the state’s five Supreme Court justices plenty to digest before the Oct. 23 hearing.

Who's against it?

two dozen current and former GOP lawmakers, represented by a Christian law group called Alliance Defending Freedom

However, Attorney General Gary King’s office asked the Supreme Court to declare the denial of marriage licenses to same-sex couples as unconstitutional. He says there is no “rational basis” on which to treat same-sex couples differently from straight couples.

Republican Governor Gov. Susana Martinez, hasn't intervened. She wants a vote. Vote for equal rights. Yeah, right.

 

[chrisrobin]

The New Mexico Supreme Court will be hearing arguments Oct .23. It's possible they could leaglize gay marriage in NM that very dya or shortly thereafter.

I've always thought of New Mexico as being rather progressive, especially Santa Fe and Taos.



I guess New Mexico isn't called the "Land of Enchantment" for nothing!

 

[Alnitak]

I've always thought of New Mexico as being rather progressive, especially Santa Fe and Taos.


I guess New Mexico isn't called the "Land of Enchantment" for nothing!

Yes and no.

New Mexico has never passed partnership rights, but has never banned same sex marriage either.

 

[Ninja108]

Democrats control the Senate and House in New Mexico and while some of them are opposed to SSM,the last thing they want to do in an off year is increase the number of older voters whom are likely to come out and vote Republican by putting a gay marriage ban on the ballot.

 

[scream4ever]

Democrats control the Senate and House in New Mexico and while some of them are opposed to SSM,the last thing they want to do in an off year is increase the number of older voters whom are likely to come out and vote Republican by putting a gay marriage ban on the ballot.

I think our side now has the turnout/enthusiasm advantage, even in an off year election.

Also, it was just announced in South Carolina that briefs are due November 15th.

 

[Alnitak]

Democrats control the Senate and House in New Mexico and while some of them are opposed to SSM,the last thing they want to do in an off year is increase the number of older voters whom are likely to come out and vote Republican by putting a gay marriage ban on the ballot.

Democrats are not necessarily liberal, especially away from the Northeast and West Coast, though in New Mexico they are tepidly liberal. If NM had a Democratic governor, there would have been a real chance at passing a same sex marriage law this year.