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Hi guys, I'm about to tell you about my relationship with this guy.
I'm not asking if he likes me or not -- no mind reading or ridiculously obvious questions. I'm asking for realistic suggestions on what to do next.

A year or so ago. . .

ON MSN Messenger:

Me: John, are you busy after school?
John: Yeah, why?
Me: Ms. Ryan wants to see us after school at her room. Can you come?
John: Yeah.

Next Day:

Friday. IT class. 1 hour until school ends. John is going to come with me to Ms. Ryan's room to see her. However, that is not actually the truth. I setup this plan because Ms. Ryan's room is in a very desolate hallway -- meaning I'll have the opportunity to speak to John in private.

In other words, along the way to Ms. Ryan's room, I'll stop him, and confess to him that I like him.

5 minutes until class is over. My heart beats so fast and hard that I feel like I'm about to faint. Class ends. I go to John's locker and ask "you coming?" and he says "yeah"

He follows me to the other building in the school, we walk up to the staircase leading to Ms. Ryan's room.

"John!" I say in my attempt to stop him so I could tell him.
He doesn't hear me.
"John!" I say again, this time he looks at me and listens.
"It's a trick, I just wanted to say I like you. . . " I say to him.
"I like you too. . ." he says to me.
He obviously didn't understand what I meant by "like". My heart tells me love, but I couldn't gather the courage to actually say that.
"No, I mean I really like you. . . You know what I mean. . ." I say to him.
"Not really, you think I'm funny? Cool? What? Fill me in." he says. What a line :)
"You know. . . more than the usual. . ." I reply.

After a little bit of that, he asks me to tell him on Facebook or MSN what I mean. I agree, and we say bye. He didn't seem shaken or wierded out at all. He took my confession very well.

I'm usually the one reading peoples lies, faces, emotions, and manipulating others. However, he showed not the slightest emotion that day. Strangest ever.

That weekend I tell him what I actually meant.
His response: "Yikes."
Ouch? :P

For Christmas, I made him a christmas present. A piano composition. I attempt to break into his locker through the most extraordinary means.

I go to the schools front desk and ask the lady for John's locker number. Then I find John's locker, get the codec on the bottom of his lock, and write it down. Then I go to the administration office, say to the lady there whom I know "I forgot my lock combo, can you give it to me?" and I hand her the codec I wrote down from John's lock. I return to John's lock -- try the combination - and it DOESNT WORK! I try for the entire hour to try and get into it so I could sneak my christmas gift into his backpack, and fail. I had to make an excuse for missing class that day.

I end up insulting his lock on MSN later on. I had to be honest - I did try and get into his locker. I ended up mailing it to him for Christmas.

He doesn't talk to from then on. Even until now. After Christmas -- still no response. He completely ignores me, no hellos or anything. However, he does give me a glance here and there in the cafeteria, and sometimes looks at me for a good few seconds. Makes me wonder.

I called him last week, a few hours after spring break is on.
"Hey John, it's me Jason." (Names have been changed for security.)
"Hi." he says.
"I couldn't find you after school today. . . so I guess I called to say have a nice break." I say.
"Thanks." he quickly says.
"umm.. . can I ask you something?" I ask.
"Why?" he queries.
"Well. . . since Christmas. . . you kinda haven't. . . talked to me. . . why?" I ask him. I actually wanted to ask why he was ignoring me flat out.
"No reason." he says after an obvious, clear, silent, few seconds of hesitation.
"Oh. . . I don't know what to say. . ." I said back. I didn't quite believe him.

Now, what I hear him say next is: "I love you." I seriously couldn't believe my ears. I probably misheard him, so. . .

"What?" I ask in disbelief of what I heard.

"I love you." is what I hear again. I still couldn't believe it.

YET AGAIN I ask "WHAAT?"

He very, very quickly says "I have to go" in a slightly aggressive tone. I say bye, and the conversation ends.

I still ponder if he said "i love you". I tell myself "he probably said f**k you" but that's almost infinitely impossible, I doubt I could mistake the word love for f**k.

Now. . . our relationship remains in tatters. I love him so much, with all my heart, I wish we could be together, but he remains ignoring me. Spring break is almost over -- what on Earth should I do. . .?!

I try to gather courage to talk to him, smile or something at him in the hallways. Unfortunately, everytime that happens I suddenly block up with shyness. Each day I become more aware of standards and socialization, my whole life I've had strange views of what's appropriate. I used to have a super draconian view of "being appropriate." I want to get to know him more at least, but he ignores me.

Anyone have some suggestions on what I should do? Should I say something or anything? Do anything to him? I'm not asking for genius mind-reading things, but rather something you think may improve things.

It can't get too much worse here. I can do SOMETHING at the least.
That's because change produces results, and I'm dying for some results in my stance with him.
 
Well, there are a number of things you can do after someone tells you they love you.

1. Call him again, try some kid of communication. Clearly, he isn't up to it.

2. Come straight out and talk to him; if you were friends before, i;m sure he wouldn't run if you approach.

3. Ask him out to something, lunch, coffee, movie, the possibilities are infinite.

Nevertheless, you have to communicate with him.

Btw, is he gay, straight, bi, religious?

Could be he does "love you", however he can't bring himself to accept it and thinks it will go away if he avoids you.

P.S I hope that made sense.
 
My heart goes out to you; this isn't an easy thing to deal with.
I don't have much experience in this, and what experience I do have is unfortunate. What I can tell you, however, is that if, indeed, he says that he loves you, and was very curt and hesitant about it, and he continues to ignore you, it probably means that he's having a hard time dealing with his feelings.
Tell me more about John, either through pm or this board. You can add me on MSN too, if you want; just pm me for my email.
 
Given the advice from above, I'll give some more info on John :D

John, on Facebook, claims to be completely straight.
I told him that very few people are 100% straight or 100% gay, and that since he goes to an all guys school, the chances of him being completely straight are so little. He denies it with the classic "I disagree" which is what people use when they know something is true, but there isn't direct evidence on them in particular.

How can he look that amazing, blonde and blue eyes, go to an all guys school, and claim to be so straight? Great.

He does glance and look at me in the cafeteria from time to time, thats undenyable. There is a mist of 1,100 students there and they can't possibly direct towards me in each of those situations by accident.

He ignores me plenty, like avoiding crossing each other in the hallway. Lately, he's been acting much stranger too. He seems so lost -- he keeps looking down, playing with his fingernails, he looks like he's thinking very deeply about something. He doesn't seem to be as happy, he doesn't really socialize with other guys at the bus stop anymore -- he stands alone at a corner, waits for his bus, and leaves. I DID tell him on Facebook once before that I'd approach him myself, maybe he was trying to open the opportunity for me? :P

The school we're at is V________ College, I won't give the specific name just in case someone searches the school name and. . . this thread might get a top search result. It's a Catholic school. However, I doubt many of the kids in the school agree with the Church's position on gays. Also, this is Canada, in which gay marriage is legal and much more acceptable than in other countries around the world.

Your thoughts about him being scared to admit his feelings have run across me a few times.

When I thought he said "I love you" -- TWICE, it was rather quietly. I sensed. . . hesitation in his voice for sure. He definitely didn't have the aggression in his voice to have sworn at me. Maybe he really was just scared to admit it. . . I can see why, a quick look at his Facebook profile would reveal a girl who constantly calls him her girlfriend, says "I love you" in every abbreviation, sequence of lower and upper case letters, and every kind of wording. John hasn't returned any of those "I love you's" to her, and she seems incredibly obnoxious.

However, I've observed they are childhood friends. Their parents are obviously friends with her parents. If John were to not be her "boyfriend" then that might cause huge trouble between the two families, especially since this girl seems annoyingly addicted to him (he is amazingly handsome). He might be worried about the reaction from his parents if he told them he liked a guy too. . .

I tried inviting him over a few weeks after telling him how I felt.
He said he was going to a cabin or something for the long school break. Yes, it was a four day weekend for us that week. I don't know if he was actually interested at all, but I still tried it.

So far, my plan is the wait for him to come online Facebook.
Hopefully he won't ignore me this time, like he has for the past three months.
I intend on asking him what he said before saying "I have to go." on the phone.

Sometimes I manage to convince myself "Dang, it's obvious he said I love you!"
 
If this is true, you're stalking him.

He told you he's straight, and you won't accept that.
 
Two phonecalls, no person-to-person conversation, is called stalking?

Really?
 
How many stalkers actually talk to the people they're stalking?

This:

John, on Facebook, claims to be completely straight.
I told him that very few people are 100% straight or 100% gay, and that since he goes to an all guys school, the chances of him being completely straight are so little. He denies it with the classic "I disagree" which is what people use when they know something is true, but there isn't direct evidence on them in particular.

How can he look that amazing, blonde and blue eyes, go to an all guys school, and claim to be so straight? Great.

Pretty much says it all. You creeped him out, he told you he was straight, you refuse to accept that, and continue with the stalking.

Leave the poor boy alone. If you try and break into his locker again, I see a restraining order in the future.
 
Oooooooooh dayum. I guess I messed everything up!

Buh-bye John :( At least I think.

He's on Facebook now.
He's not answering, same ignoring tactic :(
 
Well, if he's not talking to you go for broke.

Next time in the hallway, grab him and whisper in his ear, "I love you, too" and continue on with your day.

He then will know how you feel, you know how he feels, voila. Let him digest all of it.
 
I'm still not "sure" he said "I love you" on the phone.

Well, I'm sure. . . but I definitely didn't believe what I heard. Even though he said it twice, I swear to god I was stunned.

Those three words were the only words in the conversation that I couldn't. . . "understand."

I even made a list on notepad of all the letters of the alphabet and added "ove" at the end. I definitely heard "ove" but I wanted to be sure.

Love
Dove
Gove?. . . glove?
Sove?. . . shove?

Maybe I should go for broke, I'm not quite sure.
Spring break is over soon -- Monday I return :D

EDIT:
If he did say "I love you" then maybe I can ignore him myself, let him see how it feels.
 
Don't play games, especially if you love him, too. Give him at least that much respect.

Remember, the anger in his tone as he said he had to go could be him upset thinking you didn't feel the same way. You've given him no indication to the contrary.
 
I have told him on several occasions that I love him -- but that was online.

I did however tell him in real life that I "like" him. . .

I won't be playing games with him -- I do love him. Besides, ignoring him would only make it easier for him to ignore me -- a very opposite effect.

I was thinking that too -- the anger in his tone could be him being upset. It wasn't quit anger, it was slight. . . slight anger. . . I could say it was the tone of an upset person.

Eeeh... so confused. He isn't replying on Facebook.
 
Time to leave the text world. Pick-up the phone. Call him. Even if it's voicemail, leave him a message. Say something like "I haven't talked to you in a while, but I wanted you to know that I love you. Hope to talk to you soon."

If his mind is where I think it is, he'll be playing that message over and over.
 
OOOOOoooooOOOOoooo wow, you're good!

I don't care WHO it's from -- if I got a voice message like that I would play it a hundred times a day :P

Whilst I really do believe he said "I love you" and simply. . . was taken too much by surprise to acknowledge it -- I'm dumbfounded at why he ignores me so actively. Consequently, I'm a little scared to call him. What's to stop him from hanging up on me?
 
I don't get it. Assuming he indeed is in love with you, then the fact that he has been avoiding you since Christmas and continues to do so would suggest that perhaps he's afraid of these feelings and doesn't want them to progress.

So how is declaring your love for him again - which in its watered down version "like" is what scared him away in the first place - going to help?
 
3nips, I venture to think his avoidance is a result of unrequited love.

I think his reminding this guy of his feelings will reinforce what's been said in the past, and possible open-up dialogue. Who knows in what context the other "I luv u's" were said. Now is the time to make it abundantly clear.

Just my thruppence.
 
^^I can't see how you come to that conclusion from what has been posted...
 
I don't get it. Assuming he indeed is in love with you, then the fact that he has been avoiding you since Christmas and continues to do so would suggest that perhaps he's afraid of these feelings and doesn't want them to progress.

So how is declaring your love for him again - which in its watered down version "like" is what scared him away in the first place - going to help?

Reinforcing his self-security perhaps.

If someone other than my family told me they loved me, I'd feel a little more secure knowing that at least someone things I'm a great person.

And if he really does feel for me, and simply doesn't want those feelings to progress because of social approval, telling him I love him again might make him feel even more secure, once again. Besides, like suggested, I may as well go broke.

Secondly, telling him I like him then I love him didn't scare him off.
It happened after last Christmas, which was three months AFTER telling him how I felt.
 
You definitely need to go for broke. Imagine:

You're standing in the hall, the steady murmur of the crowd droning on. He approaches. You turn away too nervous to face him. He grabs your arm with such force, urgency, passion, that you can't ignore, couldn't ignore, but you do - you try; you can't look him in the eye, your glance falling to his shoulder.
He speaks with force:
"Look at me."
With trepidation, you do.
"(Your name here), I love you, and as infuriating as you've been, I know you love me, too. You know you love me, too; as much as you've tried not to, you love me. You love me and your going to kiss me.
You can't recall how they got there but his lips firmly against yours and strong arms against your back force all resistance from you, and you softly drift into him, your two beings becoming one.

...

Thrill him, like you want him to thrill you.
 
But he's decently bigger and stronger than me -- he could just force himself out of my arms with little problem.

Arghh, I love him so much. I feel I have no choice but to go broke and do some last resort thing -- but if it doesn't work I'd hate it so much.

If only I could hear properly if he said "I love you" or not. . .
If only he wasn't ignoring me. . .
 
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