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Who do you think is a 'gay music icon' (besides Lady Gaga)?

You can relate this discussion more to the current state of the show business, general musical education and, since we talk about genre, to the culturally predominant approaches to music and creativity by males and females, rather than to the "str8-acting" thing: notice that being "vocal" about supporting gay people, firstly mean supporting the showy show-business parade-loving side of it, that is, "the scene", and it became a fashion as the show business itself grow outrageously showy and ostentatious itself, particularly under the influence of entertainers who are more or less vocally talented or more or less mediocre, and who make up for it and offer a plus that other mediocre artists had never thought of exploiting before.
Even if you are actually very talented and skillful, as the public have been increasingly becoming more tone-deaf, from opera houses to the last joint on the planet, it became NECESSARY to rely more heavily on the visual or, in general, non-acoustic side of the show.
If, as a musician, you focus on lyrics and music itself, you give way to both equally musically talented women and women who simply "put on a show". If women are more "practical", more "socially-oriented" and less "idealist", then for one Jeff Buckley you have a dozen Rihannas, Perries, Chers, Gagas, JLos, Madonnas, Britneys and JustinE Biebers :mrgreen:
People like Beyoncé or Julie Andrews may be more or less openly supporting and more or less "iconized" by the gay establishment, and they will remain what they essentially and supposedly are: grrrreat artists. In any case, the gay icon thing, even if you try to "make it happen" like Mado or Gag do, is something that essentially comes from the mass of fans, down-up, not up-down.

Well, maybe I should have put more time in writing and editing that but... :rolleyes:
 
^_^ And just where do you suppose that came from, belamo – the exaggerated sets, the glitzy costumes and wild hairdos, 'the visual…non-acoustic side of the show?' With David Bowie in the 1970s? No, the central focus then was still on the music…

How about earlier, in the 1950's with someone you've already posted in this thread – Liberace? I would think his absurd, hands-flying-up-and-down-on-the-keyboard style of piano playing (of sentimental, schmaltzy, show tunes and pop classics) would hardly meet your estimably high standards.

Or, perhaps, in a live performance at the Electric Cinema in The Portobello Road, London, 1985, a vision of the future…



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^_^ And just where do you suppose that came from, belamo – the exaggerated sets, the glitzy costumes and wild hairdos, 'the visual…non-acoustic side of the show?' With David Bowie in the 1970s? No, the central focus then was still on the music…

How about earlier, in the 1950's with someone you've already posted in this thread – Liberace? I would think his absurd, hands-flying-up-and-down-on-the-keyboard style of piano playing (of sentimental, schmaltzy, show tunes and pop classics) would hardly meet your estimably high standards.

Or, perhaps, in a live performance at the Electric Cinema in The Portobello Road, London, 1985, a vision of the future…



21st Century Boy Sigue Sigue Sputnik
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It was not about music any more... :cool:

Just like back in this barbarian Italian-style-ridden era :mrgreen:
 
Man you guys are so disappointing. All of those people you named make shit music, and apparently you guys are into them and call them icons. Terrible! Just Terrible. Its sad to see if an artist doesnt make it their main piority to make songs and colorful videos they go unrecognized by the gay "community". Ever hear of a band called....Judas Priest ?
 
Man you guys are so disappointing. All of those people you named make shit music, and apparently you guys are into them and call them icons. Terrible! Just Terrible. Its sad to see if an artist doesnt make it their main piority to make songs and colorful videos they go unrecognized by the gay "community". Ever hear of a band called....Judas Priest ?
You got it... that's why they are called icons: it's all visual, not acoustic :cool:
As I said before, it's all part of a process with comes from a couple of centuries back but, of course, for those who discovered music from just a few decades back a couple of half a dozen decades ago, it's all so new and, oh!, suddenly so decadent and disappointing...
 
You got it... that's why they are called icons: it's all visual, not acoustic :cool:
As I said before, it's all part of a process with comes from a couple of centuries back but, of course, for those who discovered music from just a few decades back a couple of half a dozen decades ago, it's all so new and, oh!, suddenly so decadent and disappointing...


Oh, I think it's also 'acoustic' – even musical – however 'decadent and disappointing.' Could all of Maria Callas' many gay fans have been wrong to consider her a 'music icon' in her time?

I've been remined lately there also are 'gay music icons' who are actually gay, and some would-be, 'gay music icons' who are not <coffKatyPerrycoff> but who would try to 'appropriate' parts of another's work – perhaps to gain greater acceptance with their gay fans in the face of yet another, would-be, 'gay music icon's' <coffLadyGagacoff> burgeoning juggernaut of popularity…



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Юля и Лена

From MadTV, 2003

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Every gay bar I have been lately is playing Only Girl by Rihanna or Tonight by Enrique Iglesias... They may not be the gay icons but those songs always make me thing: These are gay songs.
 
Cher obviously, she has provided the soundtrack to my Gay little life, and Peter Allen, he married Liza for god sake, you don't gay much gayer than having Dorothy for a mother-in-law!
 
Thanks to everyone who's been stimulated by this topic to post the names – and in many cases, videos (and other information) – about their favorite 'gay music icons.' That is exactly what I wanted to see! And it has more than fulfilled my initial hope to discover new (that is to say, unfamiliar to me) singers, musicians, composers… and other, more 'show bizzy' performers… who are/were 'gay icons' from throughout the recorded history of music (see – or as belamo might say, 'cf.' – my OP). ;)

I am especially impressed by the large number of Spanish-speaking artists, most of whom I humbly must admit, I never had heard of before – in spite of the fact I love Spanish (and Portuguese) music from not only the Iberian Peninsula, but also Central and South America.

For example, one of my favorite radio shows comes on Sunday nights from 18:00 to 19:30 on WPFW in Washington DC (89.3 fm, also on the Web). Hosted by an openly gay guy, Jim Byers, it's the first part of an entire evening's 'bloc' of programs, collectively called The Latin Flavor Stream, which covers 'Latino' music of all kinds (it cycles from his specialty, Cubano mambo and rhumba music from the 1950's onward, through Puerto Rican salsa in the second part – with host Nancy Alonso – and ending in the third, after I've usually gone to bed, with Brazilian samba and bossa nova). Of course, there also are radio stations in the area that broadcast in Spanish, but for the most part they only play 'contemporary,' pop music, which doesn't interest me as much.

Nevertheless, for the sake of this thread, I asked a group of friends from school (who come from all over, BTW, from BCN to Colombia, though they're not all gay) who they thought fit the category, so, as I did with my OP, here's just an undifferentiated 'block' of names of hombres, mujeres y grupos for your consideration (most of whom are not familiar to me), to be nominated (or 'seconded') by you, my 'queridos lectores,' as 'gay icons' if any of them appeal to you, as follows:

Chayenne, Pablo Matero, Juanes, Alejandro Fernandez, Luis Miguel, Juan Gabriel, Christian Castro, Alejandron Sanz, Benny Ibarra, Alex Syntek, Iris Chacon, Yolandita Monga, Shakira, Anastacia, Juleita Venegas, Maia, Thalia, Laura Pansini, Belanova, Ana Gabriel, Rocio Durca, Mana, Mecano, the Gypsy Kings, Jesse y Joy, Miranda, Bacilos, Aterclopelados, Los de Adentro, Ricardo Arjonal… and, curiously enough, several votes for the animated chihuahua in the ads who says, 'Yo quiero Taco Bell.' Un perro gay? :)

Por favor, una vez más, mis amigos, me dices lo que piensas! Gracias!

Oh, yeah, and I nearly forgot, here are a few more 'Anglo' names for your consideration, as well – Tori Amos, Fiona Apple, Alanis Morrissette, Annabella Lwin, Dale Bozzio, Nina Hagen, and… Fred Schneider (The B52s).

Now, after that big buildup, my choice for a 'gay music icon' for today… <Drum roll, please> She's still alive and kicking, though here she is from 1978, asking the musical question, 'Are You Man Enough to Be a Woman?'…



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Actually, yes, Divine is most definitely a gay music icon. But I have to correct you on "You Think You're A Man". The Vaselines covered that in 1987. It was actually originally done by DIVINE in 1984.
 
cyndi lauper
eartha kitt
Shirley Bassey
Ethel Merman
Bette Midler
cher
madonna
kylie minogue
Cass Elliot
Elaine Paige
Grace Jones
Diana Ross
Dolly Parton
Annie Lennox
Janet Jackson
Stevie Nicks
Dusty Springfield
Jimmy Somerville
Judy Garland
marlene dietrich

Fabulous list
 
Actually, yes, Divine is most definitely a gay music icon. But I have to correct you on "You Think You're A Man". The Vaselines covered that in 1987. It was actually originally done by DIVINE in 1984.


Right you are! !oops! And to think, I've actually met John Waters, too, and he was very gracious, in answering all my many questions, which, I'm sure, he must have been asked hundreds of times before (I study filmmaking) – though I never asked him about the origin of 'You Think You're a Man,' which I sloppily assumed must have been by The Vaselines because, I expect, I heard their version of the song (thanks to Kurt Cobain!) long before I ever heard Divine's (or possibly before I ever even heard of Divine)… Man, I hope John doesn't read this!

But, thanks for straightening me out, Oquinn0103. To make amends if I can, I'll make my 'gay music icon' for today someone I've also had the pleasure of meeting, who was very close to Divine, and though she's not especially well-known as a singer, is yet very smart, very sweet, and certainly very 'gay friendly'…

But before I do that, I've also come up with a few more names (that may not have been mentioned yet) of worthy candidates to be considered 'gay music icons' because they truly are singers (and musicians) and even, in at least the case of the first two, gay, as well – Joan Armatrading, Tracy Chapman, Sinéad O'Connor, and Danii Minogue (Kylie's brother). (In my research, I've also been reading about past eras in music and at some future date plan to post vids of the following: Bricktop, Edith Piaf, Irene Boldoni, Lotte Lenya, Greta Keller, and though he, too, wasn't known so much as a 'singer,' in spite of his love of jazz, he was a 'poet' (which to the ancient Greeks – as with Orpheus, for example – amounted to the same thing), Langston Hughes. Get ready, it's a trip, to be sure, to a time before any of us were born, but an enjoyable one, I think!)

I only hope everyone else is enjoying this as much as I am, but I think it's a stone hoot. Please, everyone, post some more names, vids, your thoughts on all this, etc. Thanks!

Now, without further delay, here she is, singing 'Tzena, Tzena, Tzena' (I'll go out on another limb here), first recorded – if not actually also written by – another, famous group from the distant past, The Weavers…



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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_G4JNMURj4&fmt=18"]Losing My Mind Barbara Cook[/ame]
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Marlénè Manners lip-syncing to Barbara Cook's original performance in Leonard Bernstein's Candide – from 1956, Barbara Cook's in her eighties now (the preceding performance of 'Losing My Mind' from the DVD Follies in Concert dates from 1985)…


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Two by Irene Boldoni…


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With Irving Aaronson & His Commanders

By Cole Porter, from Paris, 1928



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From 1929
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