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who failed University ?

It was a Plymouth Uni course run at my local College. So officially I was a Plymouth student being taught by standard College lecturers. I even paid the same amount as Plymouth students. I very much regret doing it now.
 
what i have noticed, the nurse can do most of the jobs, GP that is.
An experienced nurse is much better than a new inexperienced doctor !!!

In general health knowledge experience counts.

Much better at what exactly?

You really have no idea. You appear to be as bright as a 40 Watt Lightbulb.

Doctors and Nurses have completely different thought processes. Doctors are trained to think laterally and solve (sometimes insolvable) problems. Nurses are trained to follow protocol and not deviate from that procedure.

Doctors are concerned with results, Nurses are concerned with process.

To the ignorant observer (such as yourself), I can understand why you might get confused.

I am not trying to say that Doctors are better than Nurses, I would not be so arrogant. I am pointing out that their jobs are worlds apart. I would never be able to do the job of a nurse

Do not get me started on the increasing role of "Nurse Practitioners" though.
 
Ben are you scared of your degrees with honoured be down graded? :badgrin: nah just kidding, your degree is safe with me.
 
what i have noticed in Australia anyway, specialized doctors are quite selfish. They trained as small amount of specialized doctors as possible so that there is LESS competition for them and have to wait for them for ever to see one of the specialist!!!
 
Me failed twice -- go figure -- -B- -4- multiple successes -- please there's always hope -- never surrender --
 
To avoid confusion, please could people be aware of the difference between University and the new breed of NuLabour funded Ex-Polytechnic-NightSchool-former-Leisure-Centres such as Oxford Brookes "University", Thames-Valley "University" or "University" of Eastern Anglia (AKA University of Easy Access) etc.

Perhaps Ben would care to enlighten us on the subject of his own alma mater.
 
took me over 10 years to get thru (not str8 thru) I started when Bush was president and we were in a Gulf War i got out and Bush was President and were are in a Gulf War
 
Ben are you scared of your degrees with honoured be down graded? :badgrin: nah just kidding, your degree is safe with me.

No, I'm not being protective of my degree per se. I am being protective of my patients who are increasingly (and dangerously) being fobbed off by the current Government with "specialist nurseys".

what i have noticed in Australia anyway, specialized doctors are quite selfish. They trained as small amount of specialized doctors as possible so that there is LESS competition for them and have to wait for them for ever to see one of the specialist!!!

Workforce planning in the health sector is notoriously difficult. It is not due to "selfish" reasons that competition for specialist places is so intense, it is so your consultants are the cream of the crop. This is not determined by the current workforce, it is determined by the Government and specialist colleges.

Perhaps Ben would care to enlighten us on the subject of his own alma mater.

University of Wales, College of Medicine (now Cardiff University since 2005).
 
No, I'm not being protective of my degree per se. I am being protective of my patients who are increasingly (and dangerously) being fobbed off by the current Government with "specialist nurseys".



Workforce planning in the health sector is notoriously difficult. It is not due to "selfish" reasons that competition for specialist places is so intense, it is so your consultants are the cream of the crop. This is not determined by the current workforce, it is determined by the Government and specialist colleges.



University of Wales, College of Medicine (now Cardiff University since 2005).

specialist colleges doing this on purpose to protect their really high pay job.
Why can't they trained more specialists, work less hours, earn abit less and enjoy life more?
 
specialist colleges doing this on purpose to protect their really high pay job.
Why can't they trained more specialists, work less hours, earn abit less and enjoy life more?

Yeah, Telstra, you're quite right. You should be in charge of it all.
 
Some of our Dutch Polytechnics (such as Wageningen Polytechnic and The Technical Polytechnic of Delft) were converted into universities. Mind you, here that means most courses taught there are actually harder than the courses in regular universities.

Same here in Singapore.

Aren't polytechnics just colleges geared for the workforce?
 
I quit the sixth form after two months because I just couldn't bare being around the same people and the same building for another ten minutes. I did fairly well in school but I would always want to be somewhere else when I was there. I have been quite successful in my life without "pieces" of paper but I don't understand some of my friend who did go to university all of those years who now stack shelves in ASDA or tesco and are happy in doing so. At least I didn't waste all those years achieving a degree and then completely ignore that I have one after it's obtained.

Plus certain folk with degrees I know can't even fecking spell. What is that all about?
 
My dad started a degree in environmental engineering in the 70's. Had he finished it, he could have gotten a really lucrative job. But he realized that he hated the people he was taking clases with, and he just couldn't fathom spending the rest of his career with people like them, so he dropped out and got a job as an apprentice carpenter.

He now owns his own business, and he's very happy with what he does. He doesn't make as much money as he would have as an engineer, but he'd rather be happy than rich.

Because of his own experiences, he was much more understanding than my mother when I announced that I had changed my major from biotechnology to literature.
 
I took molecular biotechnology too and I don't like it at all. Cool stuff but not something I want to dedicate my life too.

Quick question to those who entered university: how did you know the course you took the course for you? How did you figure it out?
 
To avoid confusion, please could people be aware of the difference between University and the new breed of NuLabour funded Ex-Polytechnic-NightSchool-former-Leisure-Centres such as Oxford Brookes "University", Thames-Valley "University" or "University" of Eastern Anglia (AKA University of Easy Access) etc.

It's all a question of degree (no pun intended). Ben looks down on students at former Polytechnics because he went to the University of Wales, Cardiff. Many of us could equally well look down on Ben for having attended Cardiff.

Some of the new universities have excellent departments and some of the older universities have some pretty ropey ones. Anyone going to University these days needs to be far more discriminating in their choice of subject and institution than Ben is in his diatribe.
 
It's all a question of degree (no pun intended). Ben looks down on students at former Polytechnics because he went to the University of Wales, Cardiff. Many of us could equally well look down on Ben for having attended Cardiff.

Some of the new universities have excellent departments and some of the older universities have some pretty ropey ones. Anyone going to University these days needs to be far more discriminating in their choice of subject and institution than Ben is in his diatribe.

Which business school did you go to, Josephine? Did it happen to be one of the former leisure-centres per chance?

Are you now a dab hand at stitching mail-bags by the way?
 
actually i got a masters in something
do i know?????????
and something banged it all out of my head

now it's just a piece of paper

but hey insurance is great.
 
Well, I certainly wasn't valedictorian. But so what if you failed once. You only really fail if you give up. Never ever ever give up.
 
To avoid confusion, please could people be aware of the difference between University and the new breed of NuLabour funded Ex-Polytechnic-NightSchool-former-Leisure-Centres such as Oxford Brookes "University", Thames-Valley "University" or "University" of Eastern Anglia (AKA University of Easy Access) etc.

Kins123 - did you go to the former or the latter?

Humberside College of Higher Education became Humberside Polytechnic, then Humberside University all in the space of 2 years.

I was next door in The University of Hull where I got my bachelor of science degree. I've always thought it was a cheat to enter a HE college and graduate from a university during that period. It seems to degrade the status of degrees in general.
 
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