Who's afraid of Coronavirus?

[NotHardUp1]

I hope all goes ok Nothardup1. As we all grow older we are susceptible to picking up many things. Just say your prayers.

Thank you. He found out yesterday that it isn't COVID-19. He was supposed to see his doctor to find out why he had been short of breath. Could be worse news, but no point in speculating.

Even all the major cemeteries in Toronto are closed. Why?

There's a waiting list. I'm sure the prices will be driven up like ventilators, the areas gentrified, and the poor driven out. Just watch.

 

[Dominus]

I must point out that I am seeing a lot of the Y2K Fallacy being thrown around again.

What is the Y2K fallacy? Suppose an engineer evaluates a bridge and sees a HUGE problem. If not fixed, within the next year it will for sure collapse. People cough up the funding to repair it and it gets repaired. A year later, the bridge hasn't collapsed. People then scream bloody murder "Hey look nothing happened to the bridge, we shouldn't have wasted money repairing it!"

Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? This very thing happened after millions of dollars were pumped into building a new levee system in New Orleans after Katrina. People were hounding on the Governor for having spent so much relief funds on the new levee system whereas he could have put that money toward housing, especially after the following year's hurricane and nothing happened. Hey, look another big hurricane came and the city didn't get flooded. We wasted all that money on the new levee system!

I observe this fallacy quite often. There appears to be a lapse in logic in people for whatever reason. The Y2K bug was a serious issue. Governments and corporations spent BILLIONS on code rewrites and system updates before the year 2000 hit to make sure nothing would happen. Then when 2000 came and nothing happened, people were screaming hey look nothing happened what a bunch of baloney!

And now once again this misstep in logic hits again. Governments around the world took serious steps to prevent the pandemic from killing too many people with quarantines and shutdowns. And people are already yelling look we don't see millions of people dying this must not be a serious disease! There's some kind of mental block that prevents these people from seeing that it's the damn quarantines and shutdowns that have so far prevented much greater number of deaths from occuring.

By the way, I'm calling this the Y2K Fallacy because for whatever reason there's no formal name for it yet even though people use this fallacy all the time.

If you still have trouble understanding what I'm talking about, imagine this. Winter is coming. It is getting quite cold outside. I tell you you should turn on the furnace when the temperature outside goes below 60 otherwise you will feel cold in the house. You turn on the furnace. Temperature goes down to 45. But inside your house, the temperature is quite pleasant at around 69. You complain to me "Why did you tell me to turn on my furnace and waste all that energy? I'm not feeling cold in my house at all!"

People commit the Y2K Fallacy when they fail to associate the preventive measures taken with the non-event of an issue that would have happened if the preventive measures were not taken.

Me: If you drink that cyanide solution, you will die.

*You don't drink the cyanide solution.*

You: I'm still alive. Why did you prevent me from drinking that delicious cyanide solution?

Me: *Face palms*

 

[Kyanimal]

^ I'm liking that. "Y2K Fallacy" indeed!

 

[rareboy]

I understand that some of my friends are struggling to get assistance in the US. Is this so?

 

[rareboy]

 

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[m1thousand]

Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2)

I dont think Saturday Night Live will survive

 

[rareboy]

 

[rareboy]

 

[ChristianGianni]

^^^ .. Thank you rareboy, as I've said all along, we're NOT heroes, we chose and trained to do this job, and no, none of us signed up to die for our profession. Give up the proper supplies and equipment that will hopefully allow us to work to the best of our abilities in the care and treatment of the sick.

 

[belamyi]

^^^ .. Thank you rareboy, as I've said all along, we're NOT heroes, we chose and trained to do this job, and no, none of us signed up to die for our profession. Give up the proper supplies and equipment that will hopefully allow us to work to the best of our abilities in the care and treatment of the sick.

That is why you get paid so badly to do the hard and unpleasant job: it may be the platoon quality of your assembled personal callings that liken you to soldiers: you get honoured on veteran cocktail day, and ignored the rest of the time.

 

[ChristianGianni]

^^^ exactly, anyone that thinks Nursing is a glamorous well paid job should think again, same for a Paramedic, you're never going to get rich doing either. It's a career choice, and not one for the feint hearted.

 

[belamyi]

^ And you will keep doing it no matter what, no matter how... no matter how much.

 

[ChristianGianni]

^ And you will keep doing it no matter what, no matter how... no matter how much.

For the forseeable future for me, yes, I'll keep doing it, I do like it, and I'm not throwing all that training out the window just because things are pretty dire now.

 

[belamyi]

^ Well-trained and incentive-independent for a job that MUST be done by someone: literally, priceless.

 

[Kyanimal]

For the forseeable future for me, yes, I'll keep doing it, I do like it, and I'm not throwing all that training out the window just because things are pretty dire now.

^ You don't have to be a soldier to be a hero. You don't even have to die to be a hero. Heroes are those who stand up for what's right, even against incredible odds. Heroes are those who work to help others.

I'm pretty sure I just quoted one ...

 

[belamyi]

^ You don't have to be a soldier to be a hero. You don't even have to die to be a hero. Heroes are those who stand up for what's right, even against incredible odds. Heroes are those who work to help others.

 

[Kyanimal]

^ Reality show, pathological, sycophantic, lying, blabbering stooge.

 

[ChristianGianni]

 

[dave99]

Influenza claims many times more victims every year, so no. I think the whole thing is a bit moronic.

We let the press whip this into a froth and we succeeded in scaring ourselves half to death.

And to think a lot of people's livelihoods are endangered by the overreaction. Oi!

Totally agree, even though we're deeper into this mess now. Our culture seems really good at compounding a crisis with hysteria and irrational response. Reminds me somewhat of 9/11 happening all over again, only it's nature attacking us this time instead of the Saudis. I wonder what the retaliatory war against nature is going to look like... We'll probably nuke Venezuela because that's where the virus leadership is hiding...