Why are deaths allowed to be shown on Youtube?

[star-warrior]

Sensationalism.

Also, once you have something up, and it's been viewed, someone somewhere will have a copy of it. It takes times for people to report vids that are offensive, and takes time for the admin to act. But taking that offline might and will provoke those with copies of the same vid to repost them.

It becomes a battle of trying to remove content people deem not to their taste. So censorship (hence counter-reactions) will only serve to become counterproductive.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Censorship is a slippery slope. When you use "this offends me" as justification for having something pulled, it opens the door for "homosexuals offend me, pull the vids", "promoting homosexuality offends me, pull the vid." "Rap offends me, pull the vid."

I'm not COMPARING these things, I'm comparing people's varying levels of sensitivity.

 

[Homoerectus]

Just as important, why do people watch this stuff? Why do people come to a complete stop to look at car wrecks or bodies from car wrecks and then complain how terrible it was, how distressed they are and they can't work or function because of the trauma? Sheer stupidity, I think.

 

[ozguy]

I almost called this thread: "Why is Bud Dwyer suicide on Youtube"

OMG!!! Have never seen that clip before (can't believe it's there in full on YouTube!) so of course I had to take a peek. Eeeeeeeeeew!!!!!

 

[Fucker29]

This video has been around in the internet for several SEVERAL years now.
Nonetheless shocking that the man shot himself on live tv. Holy shit!!

 

[Yuki Sohma]

That death is a natural part of the life cycle is true............but............

 

[Fucker29]

It's all part of reality...and reality is really fucking ugly many times but it is what it is. This is no worse than watching certain things on the news.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Just as important, why do people watch this stuff? Why do people come to a complete stop to look at car wrecks or bodies from car wrecks and then complain how terrible it was, how distressed they are and they can't work or function because of the trauma? Sheer stupidity, I think.

Stupidity plays a role but it's also completely natural emotive response. You don't ever stop to look twice at your toaster do you? It's just sitting there, not doing anything, you only pay attention to it when you needed. But an accident hits our subconscious on SO many levels, we see another human being in peril, we're reminded of our own mortality, and there's the sheer drama of it all, the danger, the "How did this happen?", the flashing lights.

It's more than just stupidity.

 

[Paws]

Thoughts?

Youtube is based in the U.S. of A. It's your rules. If you don't like it, find like-minded people to start a petition and change the laws.

it opens the door for "homosexuals offend me, pull the vids", "promoting homosexuality offends me, pull the vid."

That's what's already happening.

Violence is allowed, nudity isn't. Mocking disabled people or homosexuals gets a video a five star rating, standing up for these groups and morality gets you one star and an army of trolls spamming your comments section.


Other than that: I think there's nothing really bad about watching videos of accidents or crimes when you're old enough. If you haven't experienced bad situations yourself by then and have a spoilt life, it will open your eyes so you understand stuff like this can happen to you too

 

[Yuki Sohma]

... Mocking disabled people... gets a video a five star rating...

Paws, you make a good point--no a great point..........I agree with you and may I just add that I think that there is a way im-balance to it all..........

..........I scream and yell whenever I hear someone in a mockingly or otherwise way say something akin to taking the "short bus" ..........

..........let alone ignoring folks awarding "five stars" to presentations that in some way mock "physically, emotionally or otherwise challenged" individuals..........

..........please, I truly appreciate humor as much and probably more than most but come on now..........let's get real.........."five stars" for mockingly making fun of another's path..........never..........way unacceptable and unnecessary..........

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Violence is allowed, nudity isn't. Mocking disabled people or homosexuals gets a video a five star rating, standing up for these groups and morality gets you one star and an army of trolls spamming your comments section.

That's another aspect of youtube I don't understand. How videos explaining homosexuality is normal get flagged, but you can create an entire account of Aryan videos or anti-gay dancehall tracks and you're fine.

They are not shown on Youtube. They are available to watch on Youtube. If you don't want to see them, use your internal filter and at least 8 times out of 10, you won't see them. The other two times would be for a gross out video someone sneaked on there just to mess with people and they haven't gotten around to flagging it as "This one's bound to freak you out!" yet. Amazingly, I've never seen a single death on Youtube. Wanna guess why?

YOU made a great point. The premise of m1's thread is that we need to be protected from ourselves, we can't help clicking on things we don't wanna see, so we need an outside party to filter what's available.

It's getting scary how common it is for something else to be blamed for our own choices, I don't understand our obsession with morbid curiosity.

 

[Paws]

Amazingly, I've never seen a single death on Youtube.

True. Youtube is pretty tame and strict as they are the best-known video portal.

Liveleak on the other hand formerly used to be Ogrish.com and they still show uncensored videos of deaths, freely available for kids to watch them and read the sarcastic comments written by visitors.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Liveleak on the other hand formerly used to be Ogrish.com and they still show uncensored videos of deaths, freely available for kids to watch them and read the sarcastic comments written by visitors.

Per the sarcastic comments, could the availability of such things act as a figurative and literal vaccine, desensitizing us? I often wonder if the prevelance of such images in songs, videos games, etc... has a devolutionary effect, especially since it's so often portrayed without consequence.

Kids seem to spend more time imagining that they're shooting things, than they spend being taught social responsibility and cohesion. So I'm not really surprised when I watch a youtube video of Beyonce singing a song and see comments about the various ways she, her family, and her fans need to die undignified deaths. Yeah, yeah, yeah, anonymity of the internet, but I think there's more to it than that, it's not "the internet" that posts these comments, it's people. If anything, the internet serves as a vessel for people to say what they're afraid of saying in public. That nice, smiley cashier may be thinking "God I wish this guy would fucking die, what a fag lolz."

 

[Telstra]

killing/self harm videos should not be allowed.

photos maybe ...

 

[Rex]

Video taken in the car when what's-er-name from that RnB girl band from the 90s died is on Youtube as well.

Oh come on, I know you hate hip hop but how can not remember TLC?

Anyway I saw that Bud Dwyer guy off himself. It was intense and pretty scary. The blood just poured like a faucet.

 

[Paws]

Per the sarcastic comments, could the availability of such things act as a figurative and literal vaccine, desensitizing us?

I don't think it's the videos themselves that lower our morale, it's the sheep that follow the bad examples (=people who write sarcastic comments and show their hatred or disinterest towards the death of another person). It's what you do of it and form your opinion after watching a video.

 

[Telstra]

i saw an old video on TV,
police arrested a guy (accused of being a viet-kong) then shot the guy in the head, blood poured like a hose (vietnam war footage).

 

[rareboy]

Hey. If someone wants to make their own death a public spectacle, then that is their choice.

I do believe, however, that where the existence of videos or pictures of self-violence or accidents would cause perpetual harm to surviving family members, it is not a censorship issue and the law should be clear on disallowing the redistribution of the material through electronic media.

The human desire for gore is pretty perverse.

 

[roguehunter]

i saw that when i was real young, i dont know, it didnt really bother me because i knew what i was looking up, and it is no worse then grafic movies or anything.

granted now i f i watched it i would probebly throw up, there is somthing about growing up the takes away the de-senceativity. when your young you can look at things, and it doesnt raise questions or issues, it just sort of is.

now i question things and ask why did he do it, what were his family like after, all that stuff that actually makes the video vulgar.

 

[Rex]

You know how you hear jokes, over the years, about a guy going to the hospital with a dildo in his ass.

I saw a video of a surgical team laughing as they remove a dildo from a guys ass (he was under at the time)

There is no surgery shown. They show the dildo being pulled out of the guy's ass and everyone starts laughing. The worst part of the video is when the dildo is out and it is 'brown and red'.

I posted the internet shortcut here for anyone who wants to see it. Life stranger than fiction

http://www.sendspace.com/file/m4iyie

Gross. I'll have to watch that when I get a chance.