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Why are Liberals So Condescending

CoolBlue71 said:
I'm not the individual who started this thread, addressing "condescension," and to whom it should be attributed. (Credit goes to NW007.)

I'm not worried about how others—and this includes you [Droid800]—may have reacted to my responses. I have sufficient confidence to put forth a response and not turn around and wonder who is okay with it.

Regarding "being treated like a child" … I didn't read into any of the feedback to my responses as you did. I have rejected this thread's topic as bullshit and, yes, I do stand by my assertion that a good amount of others' responses placate the nonsense that was written in that article.

But I must admit that I am amused with your last sentence—one in which you assume you are, somehow, fit to instruct me to "run off and let the adults play."

You, Droid, should be able to better handle yourself.
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If you had any modicum of understanding, you would know that my response was tongue-in-cheek, and meant to mock the way you've been treating others in this thread.

It doesn't matter about your 'confidence'; what matters is your lack of respect and your condescension towards other members.
 
NineOfClubs said:
I love this!

This thread has devolved into a discussion of "conservatives", all stripes of them.

Forget the original topic! Liberals!

And who's driving the conversation? CONDESCENDING LIBERALS!

Damn, I can't wait until your heads are handed to you on platters in the 2010 elections.
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This makes the assumption that today's Democratic party (and President Obama) are liberals. They're not. And today's Republican Party is not conservative.

By the way: I never "[forgot] the original topic." I've been calling this article a joke immediately with my first response.
 
alaskadude85 said:
This is an interesting topic. I find people that are 25% left or right from center to be mostly rational and capable of having sensible political discussions. However the more to the far left or right people become the more insane and thus highly defensive of their radical positions they become. I find many people on the far left and right to be highly condescending, attacking and rude of anyone who dare challenge them. They are entirely clouded.

IMO most often people are on the extremes either because they have some very special interest served by that extreme or have some ulterior motive that they wish to abuse politics to obtain. People that follow these radical left or right ideologies have a lot of very personal motives to defend hence the rabid attacks. Considering how volatile American political discourse has become I can only hope condescent is as bad as it gets.
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Don't forget that the left<-->right spectrum is artificial and doesn't cover reality. Some of us, such as NineofClubs and I, are neither left nor right.

The interesting thing about your comment is that it's possible to be on one of the extremes and not be as you describe -- not common, but I've met some, like an admittedly "millimeter from being a true communist" professor who never got defensive or aggressive, but was always Socratic in his responses, always listened, never condescended.

So I wonder if not only is the left<-->right spectrum insufficient, but that any merely two-dimensional graph lacks something, as well. Maybe we need a z-axis representing rabid adherence to one's position that precludes respect for others.
 
CoolBlue71 said:
This makes the assumption that today's Democratic party (and President Obama) are liberals. They're not. And today's Republican Party is not conservative.
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Set (you know, math, which so many love to hate) descriptions are apt here.

In the U.S., the set known as the Democratic Party mostly contains the set know as liberals, and the set known as the Republican Party mostly contains the set known as conservatives. In both cases, however, the two lesser sets (not, properly, subsets because they have members outside the main set) are not the dominant sets in either party.

Now, in a rational system, those lesser sets would break off and become their own independent sets. But there's little that's rational about the U.S. system of politics, nor the game as it's plated.
 
Kuli:

Did you slip and double your med here today?

While always articulate today I understand you really clearly

Maybe I've backed off mine.

Either way this may not "set" well with our "fallow" jubbers

Just was wondering if you were understanding my more 'liberal 'usage

of the language in your usual 'conservative' manner and do you think
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these 'proles' will feel we are condescending to document in their thread.

Just Wondering and wishing NW a good morning too.
 
opinterph said:
Dan Kennedy published an interesting commentary about Mr. Alexander’s Op-Ed in the Guardian. He asserts that it “is filled with dubious assertions and strawman arguments from beginning to end.”

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This article makes its own rather dubious conclusions and comments. Not exactly a credible response either. And who would want to say they follow the Daily Kos(hardly a credible source of objective evaluation)
 
I'm not on the L<-->R spectrum because I fall on both ends.

Here's the spectrum as it ought to be measured:

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz-score/draw.php?p=10&e=9

Here's where I fall:

draw.php


See? I'm a left liberal on individual/personal issues, and a right conservative on economic issues.

Of course I'm a bit anti-corporate conglomerates, too, because they are inherently anti-liberty.
 
Knucklehead said:
I'm past being condescending to right wingers.Now I just hate them.
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^This type of response will really help the gay cause in America. Not exactly the best way to try to positively affect the majority of the American citizentry that may not agree with gay right's issues.
 
Kulindahr said:
I'm not on the L<-->R spectrum because I fall on both ends.

Here's the spectrum as it ought to be measured:

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz-score/draw.php?p=10&e=9

Here's where I fall:

draw.php


See? I'm a left liberal on individual/personal issues, and a right conservative on economic issues.

Of course I'm a bit anti-corporate conglomerates, too, because they are inherently anti-liberty.
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That was an interesting quiz. I am slightly to the right of you but not too much which gels with my agreement with you on many posts and slight disagreement on others.
 
Kuli and I chart quite similarly, but we certainly aren't in total agreement....

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It seems I'm slightly to the right of him. :-)
 
I scored as a Centrist with the red dot in the upper right corner of the centrist box
 
Hey I am the Centrist, even if it is the upper right corner. Finding myself in the middle just like in 3 ways. (You don't find me complaining over that position)
 
And I am just possessing a big dick with an 8th grade education (didn't

even get to the 9th grade and U.S. Govt classes)pulling up his slimcut button fly

levis and taking it on the road, selling it while he can 'cause you guys sure

obfuscated the issues for me...........lol???......
 
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