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Why do I have to apologize for being Vanilla?

NineOfClubs said:
Speaking for myself, rimming falls into the realm of vanilla.
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I been around and I've seen the books and the videos for the last 15 years or so but I can't remember rimming as being Standard Vanilla Practice then as it seems to be now. :confused:
 
Rimming seems to be in every porn video/clip I've ever seen, so I suppose it must be vanilla for most? I personally don't like the idea of it, and usually skip that part of the video/clip.
 
^ Says the pearl clutching humourless Homo who probably has never been tongue fucked to the point of petit mort.


As for the OP, this is just another one of those finger wagging threads that is designed to make other homos somehow feel depraved because they don't have the same hang-ups up about French kissing the cūlus aēnī.

Every time one of these faux 'poor me for being more 'normal than you' threads turns up, it makes me wonder who's really delivering a gay hating, demeaning, abusive and mocking diatribe.


But thanks for playing.
 
Hey Pat.

You should try a Cleveland Steamer.

Everything else will look and taste like vanilla after that.
 
Rareboy, I think your post #38 is REALLY a response to post#37 rather than a response to post #1
 
I must visit some of my mates who've kept their old videos.

I stick to my assertion that rimming was not standard 15 years ago.
 
pat grimshaw said:
I must visit some of my mates who've kept their old videos.

I stick to my assertion that rimming was not standard 15 years ago.
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Neither were condoms, pat. Have you witnessed the debauchery that went on in 70's porn? In many aspects, porn got MORE vanilla.

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This is why I'd call myself ultra-vanilla: there are three types of videos that get me off--massages, physicals, and wrestling--BUT ONLY UNTIL THE SEX STARTS. When the sex starts, I'm out. All the touchy-feely stuff is what gets my juices flowing.

Honestly, even Elvin's list is too much for me.

So, again, I'm VERY vanilla.

(Although I did rim once after my x boyfriend spent six months whining about giving it a try. After a long involved shower, we tried it. It was okay, but it's not my thing. People poop outta butts.)
 
pat grimshaw said:
I stick to my assertion that rimming was not standard 15 years ago.
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breaking news: things change over time. sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse... and sometimes - hold your breath! - they just become different, neither better nor worse.

it wasnt so long ago that oral sex and masturbation were considered to be perversions.
 
You DON'T have to apologize for being vanilla. Different folks has different preferences. Just enjoy that which you are comfortable. I do.
 
hylas said:
breaking news: things change over time. sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse... and sometimes - hold your breath! - they just become different, neither better nor worse.

it wasnt so long ago that oral sex and masturbation were considered to be perversions.
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adendum: wrote this post before i saw your form-comment. im not taking back anything ive said, but id like to rub away some of the edges. too late to edit, though. peace!
 
Rimming is utterly not vanilla.

Might as well lick the toilet bowl.

"But I flushed! Everything's good! Barf.
 
rareboy said:
^ Says the pearl clutching humourless Homo who probably has never been tongue fucked to the point of petit mort.


As for the OP, this is just another one of those finger wagging threads that is designed to make other homos somehow feel depraved because they don't have the same hang-ups up about French kissing the cūlus aēnī.

Every time one of these faux 'poor me for being more 'normal than you' threads turns up, it makes me wonder who's really delivering a gay hating, demeaning, abusive and mocking diatribe.


But thanks for playing.
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Just more abuse. Some may find it funny to be demeaned or verbally abused. Indeed, there's a market for those who want to be abused.

I'm sorry I'm not one of them.

Take your abuse to your loving partner.
 
NaughtyArousal said:
^People constantly make those idiotic comments, yet conveniently forget that the penis is used for urinating.
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Ahh. a basic hygiene/health error. Urine is ordinarily sterile in a healthy person, though it goes rancid fairly quickly in a person who doesn't wash. Trace amounts of it are not a problem. Assuming they're the kind of person who washes...

Shit is never sterile, and while a person can wash, it is never a good idea to get even trace amounts into the top end of the digestive system. So while anyone can make a good effort to clean the anus, it still isn't a smart thing to lick. Even after a fuck it is smart to have a piss just to flush out any tiny microscopic traces of fecal bacteria from the penis to avoid infection.

So there's really a fundamental difference. It's as clear as the difference between a fresh orange and a mouldy rotten tomato. The idiocy is only in those who pretend it is healthy, or those who think the rest of us who know better should respect it.
 
NaughtyArousal said:
Your comment was still idiotic because you went for gross factor (comparing a sex act to licking a toilet bowl) despite it being obvious that the same argument could be used for oral sex.

Digging up all of this stuff in this recent post is just a way of backpedaling and trying to make it stand, even though the other comment was never about health to begin with. It was about "ew, this is so gross, yuck!" Nothing more.

For the record, you just made an argument against anal sex in general with that middle paragraph. Good work.

To sum up my thoughts, if you don't like rimming, don't do it. But coming here acting as if it's the grossest act ever? Yea, that's when your being "vanilla" becomes annoying.
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No, rimming is unhygenic. So is licking a toilet bowl. I don't get pissing on each other either, but I don't see how that is a health or hygiene problem if it is done in the bathtub for easy clean up.
So, as for water sports, if you don't like it, don't do it. If you do like it, then go for it.

But for rimming, if you don't like it, don't do it. If you do like it, don't do it anyway. See how that works?

I've said it before but now that we're on thread 4 million about this, it's not something that seems appealing but that isn't my problem with it. It is essentially unsanitary. If anyone has any medical information that would explain how I am mistaken in this, then post it. I've never seen anyone post it yet. And anyway as a happy vanilla person, I'm allowed to find it just plain gross.
 
So where does swallowing fall on the vanilla list ??? I would do that, for the 'right' guy... but I wouldn't rim. And yet I've heard a lot of guys who think swallowing is 'gross'.
 
NaughtyArousal said:
Vanilla is only annoying when the vanilla person tries to act as if everyone else is all weird for not being so conservative. (i.e. I'm not gonna freak out at the idea that someone doesn't have tattoos. I get rather annoyed when someone freaks out at the idea of someone having them)

Oh and while we're on the topic, the next person on this board who compares rimming to eating shit should seriously be slapped. Just throwing that out there.
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I think quite the opposite. I feel that my being vanilla is a NEGATIVE in most situations. If I had a choice in the matter I'd much prefer to be more open in bed. It's not fun disappointing people (especially if you're like me, meaning I TALK a big game...I write checks my ass can't cash, so to speak...).

If I had a choice, I'd MUCH PREFER to be excited by the idea of fucking asses. Trust me, I've tried to change. It doesn't work.
 
JNewYork said:
Just more abuse. Some may find it funny to be demeaned or verbally abused. Indeed, there's a market for those who want to be abused.

I'm sorry I'm not one of them.

Take your abuse to your loving partner.
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Oh lighten up.

I notice that I'm not the one who had my post pruned in CE&P.

So don't lecture me about abuse sweetheart. You took offense to something you had neither reason nor the right to brand as demeaning and gay-hating.

But I suspect that you may be a self-hating and unhappy man.

I think I'm going to enjoy having you around for awhile.
 
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