why don't all blacks support gays?

[fabulouslyghetto]

I suspect it would depend on the context of the argument, although in some cases, there is some juxtaposition. I deem it should be dealt with on a by argument basis allowing for variables of course.

which brings me to my NEXT question.

why don't all variables support courses? is it cultural? political? financial? colorful? meaningful? discretional? potential? congressional?

 

[CupCake]

I take back what I was saying in my earlier posts all though I do ask the same question as you Tyler I know its not just blacks....Lots of blacks do not support gays, and lots of Latinos do not support gays ,and lots of whites do not, and lots of religious people, and lots of ignorant people, and lots of gays do not support gays..... There are boneheads in every group right?

This leads to the huge picture! Why doesn't the whole world support each other! Why do we have to divide ourselves and leave people out?

The answer is IGNORANCE.... Bone heads in every group

 

[CupCake]

Even on Star Trek there is a group who wont play nice. 'Human Nature' I guess. We will always fine a reason to hate & kill.

Yes absolutely true

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Given that we're speaking variables, I'm going to suggest all of the above, plus more we haven't thought of yet. That should cover things for the nonce.

which leads to my next question, why don't all suggestions......

 

[MystikWizard]

The harrowing level of naive cockiness in which gay white men like to throw around the "they should know how it feels to be discriminated against!!!" doesn't endear the black community in wanting to support gay equality. I'm black and gay, and am put off by it.

I think a lot of that has to do with being raised by parents in the Black Community. There is no denial that there is a lot of homophobia in the Black Community ... seemingly more so than in other Communities, mainly as a result of staunch selective religious beliefs (no different than other communities, however homosexuality for some reason is still absolutely detested by more members of the Black Community on average than Whites and Asians .... and are on par with the Hispanic Community on this issue). Homosexuality is preached as an Abomination from the Parents on up. As other Black forum posters have stated, this undoubtedly leads to a lot of self-hatred within members of the Community.

But, Blacks absolutely dwell on the Slavery issue, despite the fact that we haven't had Slavery in this country since the year 1865. So the parents of today's Black children, and very, very few Grandparents actually lived through any of this. Yet, we still talk about it, with many Blacks still acting like we are going through Slavery still to this day. However, as a Generation thing, it is absolutely dwelled upon to no end in the Black Community, simply because Blacks still opt to keep it at the top of the Agenda. Whites of today had absolutely zero to do with that. And Neither did most of our Grandparents, either.

I'd like to think the Blacks (and Hispanics for that matter) could look at this as an Equality issue today, instead of playing games on "who suffered worse". Obviously, we know the answer to that question, and that is not the point. The point is being seen as Equal Members in Society ... something I think both Blacks and Gays desire, and should be seen as being on the same page with.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

But, Blacks absolutely dwell on the Slavery issue, despite the fact that we haven't had Slavery in this country since the year 1865. However, as a Generation thing, it is absolutely dwelled upon to no end in the Black Community, simply because it is still at the top of the Agenda.

Where'd you read that bullshit? KKK Weekly? It's at the top of the agenda? Yeah, 'cuz you just can't stop these black senators from writing those End Slavery bills.

 

[CupCake]

instead of playing games on "who suffered worse". Obviously, we know the answer to that question, and that is not the point. The point is being seen as Equal Members in Society ... something I think both Blacks and Gays desire.

I agree with that part....

 

[CupCake]

I see you're still trolling around here being a Over-Accommodating Knee-Grow..

Haven't you learned any damn thing on this thread?

How am I trolling? Can you read? I agreed that we should stop trying to prove who suffered the worst and just accept as minorities we all want one thing equality! I am someone who just wish everyone can support everyone but Its not gonna happen that way so I just start by being supportive to all people myself.... I am do not like homophobes,racist,sexist,or any prejudiced! What is so bad about me agreeing with that statement?

 

[CupCake]

@Cupcake ~ MystikWizard is a fucking racist! and if you agree with any part of his views - you're doing a disservice to an entire race of people. You're new here, but trust me on this..

I just agreed with that specific part because I saw no racist remarks in that particular sentence... I just liked when he said we all want equality and instead of saying who suffered the most which we all know the answer to... We should all get together and just try and make peace....

I am still getting to know people here and to answer your question I have learned allot from this thread. I would like if you could stop calling me these things because of me agreeing with certain people.... I agree with some of your post too but we got off at a bad start so I tried to just stay out of your way.

 

[CupCake]

Yep MystikWizard and BearDaddy are the gay spokesmen of the Klu Klux Klan.

LOL funny.... But how would you know? Your still a virgin here.... Just kidding

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

I always suspected.

SECURITY!!!

Suspected? We already held trial and convicted them.

 

[ckyb2]

But, Blacks absolutely dwell on the Slavery issue, despite the fact that we haven't had Slavery in this country since the year 1865. So the parents of today's Black children, and very, very few Grandparents actually lived through any of this. Yet, we still talk about it, with many Blacks still acting like we are going through Slavery still to this day. However, as a Generation thing, it is absolutely dwelled upon to no end in the Black Community, simply because Blacks still opt to keep it at the top of the Agenda. Whites of today had absolutely zero to do with that. And Neither did most of our Grandparents, either.

I'd like to think the Blacks (and Hispanics for that matter) could look at this as an Equality issue today, instead of playing games on "who suffered worse". Obviously, we know the answer to that question, and that is not the point. The point is being seen as Equal Members in Society ... something I think both Blacks and Gays desire, and should be seen as being on the same page with.

This has to be, by far, the most ignorant, disconnected post in this entire fucking fail of a thread.

This is the problem with the gay community; you selfishly expect Black people to have bleeding hearts and march out to the picket lines with you full force when you don't have a shred of real sympathy or understanding for our struggle that you arrogantly request Blacks have for you.

Slavery "ended" on paper in 1865, but racism and discrimination made the lives of Blacks in the United States a hell you can't even begin to imagine through your own self-inflated gay white ego for more than a century + later.

Just who in the fuck are you to dictate what the sons and daughters of slaves who were considered 3/5 of a human being should feel about our painful history in this country?

You're the only who is interested in playing games; pointing judgmental fingers at Blacks and Mestizos and never at yourself or your sorry-ass excuse of an "equal" community.

If your goal is to get more people of color behind your cause, trying to get away with posting that crap in the above quote is a funny way of showing it. If it succeeds at anything, it will make more people not give a fuck what you're going through.

You don't know shit about shit, so keep your god damned mouth shut.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Oh you're reLENTless.

you know me, always on the quest for knawlij. edumacation is very emportent to me.

 

[CupCake]

Can someone please close this thread! It has gotten off topic and out of hand and I really do not think anyone will come to a common grounds everyone is still going to have their opinions and their feelings.... I tried to end it with (The world should just support each other but its not that fucking easy because you got ignorance! racist,homophobia,sexist, and more! And the only thing you can do is be more supportive yourself) But that did not work! And I have saw other great post who have answered this question but theirs did not work so this whole thread is just not gonna work!

 

[CupCake]

Welcome to posting on JUB.

Thanks Pianist!

 

[CupCake]

I told you so. This happens everytime some silly unfortunate soul starts a "Why don't Blacks do this or How come all blacks aren't like this" thread.

Moe I think me and you agree its about time for the Mods or whoever to lock this up! Now excuse me while I go to the kink and fetish section lol!

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Yeah it's definitely about time for fabghetto to officially fail this sorry excuse for a thread for good.

yes sir!

it's close to midnight and someone's failure's lurking in the dark
under the moonlight you see a fail that almost stops your heart
you try to scream but failure takes the sound before you make it
you start to freeze as failure looks you right between the eyes,
you're paralyzed

cause this is failure, failure night
and no ones gonna save you from the fail about strike
you know its failure, failure night
you're fighting for your life inside a failure, failure tonight

you hear the keyboard slam and realize there's nothing left to font
you feel the cold hand and wonder if youll ever see the sun
you close your eyes and hope that this is just imagination
but all the while you hear the failure creepin up behind
youre out of time

cause this is failure (hee hee), failure night
there aint no second chance against the fail with forty eyes
you know its failure, failure night
you're fighting for your life inside of failure, failure tonight

night creatures faill
and the failed start to walk in their masquerade
theres no escapin' the jaws of the failure this time
they're open wide
this is the end of your life

theyre out to get you, theres failures closing in on every side
they will possess you unless you change the number on your dial
now is the time for you and I to cuddle close together
all through the night I'll save you from the failure on the screen
I'll make you see

that this is failure, failure night
cause I can fail you more than any ghost would dare to try
girl, this is failure, failure night
so let me hold you tight and share a failure, smailure, dailure
failure here tonight

(vincent price)
failure falls across the land
the midnite hour is close at hand
failures crawl in search of blood
to terrorize yawls forumhood
and whosoever shall be found
without the soul for getting down
must stand and face the hounds of fail
and rot inside a corpse's shell
the foulest stench is in the air
the fail of forty thousand years
and grizzy ghouls from every tomb
are closing in to seal your doom
and though you fight to stay alive
your body starts to shiver
for no mere mortal can resist
the evil of the failure

 

[Alpha1851]

Can i just say that, due to size, that the white community - since we're using color as a basis of good or bad here - is a whole lot worse when it comes to tolerance? I mean, based on the high profile cases in the news of a member of the gay community being killed for simply being who he is... it seems to be a bitter pattern of white straights killing white gays... but no one seems to be killing black gay men at the same rate.

I'll wait til you see the ridiculousness in that so you can see the stupidity of the topic at hand.

Don't hold your breath.

The idea is that the African American community should automatically be sympathetic to the plight of the LGBT community and should help fight for their equal rights b/c blacks have also suffered in the past and present at the hands of the majority. African Americans should feel a certain kinship to the LGBT folks. Since white folks are the majority, we allegedly feel entitled to our own equality and are unable to sympathize w/ anyone who is not just like us. White folks can't be held accountable for our wrath and prejudices since we just don't know any better.

Ummm, am I the only one who's read the entire thread. Folks keep replying w/, "I haven't read the posts but..."

 

[CupCake]

You're very welcome.

Have some tea and don't give up.

*pours out*

Some threads do actually get down to business and some good stuff can be found in them so, hang in there and have fun.

Sure thanks for the tea *Sips* I'll take your word for it but Ima go cruise around the more freaky deaky sub forums and I'll be back around

 

[CupCake]

Cupcake~ your Dick isn't Big enough to come busting in here demanding thread closures [You're still a Noob Lmao!]

Now go sit on the sofa with Moe'isha and eat some popcorn

Welcome to JUB

lol thanks for the welcome Neo