Why is male homosexuality/nudity so funny?

[Shepherd 2]

I was wondering about this today from a different angle (as I floated nude on a tube in the river)....

Any time I've seen a couple of gals naked at a swimming hole, lots of people will just go on down and join them, but if there's a guy or guys naked at the same hole, people seem to recoil, get nervous, and run away. Also, if there are people at a swimming hole, and a couple of gals come down and just strip, there's usually no really negative reaction, but if a guy wants to bare it all he'd better ask first. And if two gals just strip like that and people object, usually someone will respectfully tell them that isn't appreciated, but if two guys did it, objections will be in raised voices and near-violence.

So.... maybe comedy has to be used around male nudity as a way of disarming the perceived threat?

Shit, if I had been there to watch this, maybe my day would have gone better. Let me know next time.

 

[Kulindahr]

my problem is that I think you're a poser.

I think that you're going so far out of your way to prove what a big strong man you are.

I think the Pink Pistols are losers who spend way too much time trying to impress others with how manly they are because they own a gun.

The problem with Conservatives like you is that you dont' understand the concept of coexistence. You always have to have the upper hand. You buy a gun, the other guy buys two, you buy two bigger ones, he gets three friends, you show up with a troop of drag que-- er-- your Pink Pistols...

You don't realize that until you try to live peacefully with others that we'll never be at peace.

you can see how successful you people have been with that policy in the middle east, right?

I'm not saying you have to throw away your gun, I'm saying that if you only have it to prove that you're a big strong man, you're a poser.

Now that I'm through laughing at being called a conservative.....

Okay, fine, I surrender; I'll wear a sign that says, "I'm gay; knife me and throw me in a canyon" -- because that's what you're advocating.

Middle East? I've never been there, and no one's ever tried the policy I would have.

And as I've said, I've owned guns, used them, and worn them for ages, long before I realized who I am.

As for the Pink Pistols, you're indulging your fantasies again, and not dealing with reality. That fantasy shows me you've never really lived in a place where gay bashing was a danger, that you're just pretending -- because if you had, you'd understand that carrying for self-defense, and letting people know that others like you do, is the best way to stop the violence. The best studies show that's true -- and as the old saying goes, an armed society is a polite society.

 

[Kulindahr]

"The problem with Conservatives like you is that you dont' understand the concept of coexistence."
Excuse me but for being mister acceptance you are quite one sided. Show the man some respect, regardless of whether or not you agree with his opinion. You seem to just disagree for the sake of it man. You were pretty decent on my thread-upon seeing this I had to make sure it was you on mine. I am hoping you are just in a bad mood and aren't like this normally, because it will get you nowhere in life to behave like this

Soil's just trying to say that we shouldn't stand up for ourselves, but sneak around if our community doesn't like gays, and if we're caught, bend over and take that knife up the ass. See, he has a big macho motorcycle he can hop on and run away, and doesn't believe people who don't want to run have any business defending themselves -- we're just supposed to cooperate and be happy if we end up like Matthew Shepard.



And now that I'm finished with my imitation of how Soilwork reads posts....

 

[Soilwork]

Honey, I grew up in a tiny little extremely homophobic town along the North Atlantic Canadian shore. But I never needed a gun.

And I'd go out on a limb and say that the UK is a lots more polite than the USA... and even the cops don't carry guns there.


Your paranoia is kinda sad.

 

[star-warrior]

Soil's right about the cops in the UK not bearing arms. They used truncheons instead. Only when firearms are involved or suspected are the armed response units deployed.

Most violence here involves physical assault (punching and kicking), but recently guns and youth are being linked. Before then, it was knives and youth. I think gang culture is getting more mainstream, as the youth of today are become more ghettoised and feel a need to 'protect' themselves by bearing weapons.

In general, gays and assault on gays don't seem to register on the national or regional news much. Maybe it is a different culture we have here. Kulindar's stance seems more frontiersman to me.

 

[Kulindahr]

Honey, I grew up in a tiny little extremely homophobic town along the North Atlantic Canadian shore. But I never needed a gun.

And I'd go out on a limb and say that the UK is a lots more polite than the USA... and even the cops don't carry guns there.


Your paranoia is kinda sad.

So what you're saying is you have no idea what you're talking about, here.
If five guys each twice your weight come for you with knives, what are you gonna do -- dance for them? If four loggers decide it would be fun to wrap chains around your ankles and two you behind a log truck at 45 m.p.h. on a road of 3"- rock, what are you gonna do -- offer to blow them?

Your ignorance is 'way sad.

 

[Kulindahr]

Soil's right about the cops in the UK not bearing arms. They used truncheons instead. Only when firearms are involved or suspected are the armed response units deployed.

Most violence here involves physical assault (punching and kicking), but recently guns and youth are being linked. Before then, it was knives and youth. I think gang culture is getting more mainstream, as the youth of today are become more ghettoised and feel a need to 'protect' themselves by bearing weapons.

In general, gays and assault on gays don't seem to register on the national or regional news much. Maybe it is a different culture we have here. Kulindar's stance seems more frontiersman to me.

It's a seriously different culture, as is a lot of Oregon and Washington once you get very far from I-5.
Like I said, if a half dozen rednecks here break every rib on a gay guy's body, or even someone they think is gay, and then toss him by the railroad tracks, the sheriff will list it as assault -- the lowest degree possible. I've chatted with guys on-line from towns along the Oregon coast, and with few exceptions they're just as bad; gays get knifed, run over, beat up, etc. -- but it's never heard about as anti-gay violence, because the PTBs won't report it that way (some deputies will even look the other way and make sure it isn't discovered -- two assaults on gays, for being gay [actually, one wasn't; he was just curious], which occurred where my best buddy used to work, never got reported "officially", in spite of the fact that the sheriff was called).

As a wise 10-y.o. boy told his mom one day when I was out hiking, "Mom, if you call the cops, you'll just be dead when they get there" -- and that's if they come at all.

So now that I've made my decision to go ahead and wear the rainbow choker I made for myself at Pride, and try to ditch some of the "hiding" habits I developed without even knowing what I was hiding, I'm certainly not going to stop wearing my sidearm for self-defense. And if homophobic, homo-hating rednecks show up at the swimming hole, I'll strap on the gunbelt even if the only other thing I'm wearing is that choker.

And if they find that funny, at least they'll be looking for a different victim.

 

[Soilwork]

So what you're saying is you have no idea what you're talking about, here.
If five guys each twice your weight come for you with knives, what are you gonna do -- dance for them? If four loggers decide it would be fun to wrap chains around your ankles and two you behind a log truck at 45 m.p.h. on a road of 3"- rock, what are you gonna do -- offer to blow them?

Your ignorance is 'way sad.

erg. You know what? You win. Go ahead and arm yourself. You obviosuly live in a different um.. reality.

OK... You seem to see straight people as the boogie man. They're all out to get you.

I have trouble believeing that the only thing that's keeping you from being drawn and quartered is that you openly wear an AK47 when you go to the grocery store, but I've never been to your planet.

I must say, however, that I think your stories are a bit.. um.. exaggerated.

But it's not worth arguing.

I would personally never live in a place where I had to be constantly scared for my life or a place that was made up mostly of homophobic murderers trying to break into my house.

So yeah.. if that's where you live.. maybe it's best to have a gun. Or hey.. why stop there? Get a tank.

 

[G-Lexington]

Why is male homosexuality so funny? Well, this thread for starters.

Lex

 

[Kulindahr]

erg. You know what? You win. Go ahead and arm yourself. You obviosuly live in a different um.. reality.

OK... You seem to see straight people as the boogie man. They're all out to get you.

I have trouble believeing that the only thing that's keeping you from being drawn and quartered is that you openly wear an AK47 when you go to the grocery store, but I've never been to your planet.

I must say, however, that I think your stories are a bit.. um.. exaggerated.

But it's not worth arguing.

I would personally never live in a place where I had to be constantly scared for my life or a place that was made up mostly of homophobic murderers trying to break into my house.

So yeah.. if that's where you live.. maybe it's best to have a gun. Or hey.. why stop there? Get a tank.

Why is it you can't do a post without introducing your fantasies?

Those stories are real -- they have happened. But you'd never see them in the news, because they never get reported by law enforcement as having anything to do with people being gay, and they're often listed as "work accident".

At least we're better off here than where my best buddy lives in Indiana -- there, law enforcement would be helping out.

 

[Soilwork]

Those stories are real -- they have happened. But you'd never see them in the news, because they never get reported by law enforcement as having anything to do with people being gay, and they're often listed as "work accident".

wait and minute wanit a minute..

your'e telling me that four loggers wrapped chains around someone's ankles and towed a guy behind a log truck at 45 m.p.h. on a road of 3"- rock and it was called a "work accident?"

Hwo stupid are people in your state?


(and I know plenty of out of the closet people in Oregon, Indinana and even in Virginia. Before your attack my "fantasies" maybe you should address your um...)

 

[neruda]

Why is male homosexuality so funny? Well, this thread for starters.

Lex

I second that
And they both write so well ......

 

[Andreus]

better yet...

how did a conversation about male nudity become one more lecture on the wonders of guns

getting really really really really really really old

 

[Kulindahr]

wait and minute wanit a minute..

your'e telling me that four loggers wrapped chains around someone's ankles and towed a guy behind a log truck at 45 m.p.h. on a road of 3"- rock and it was called a "work accident?"

Hwo stupid are people in your state?


(and I know plenty of out of the closet people in Oregon, Indinana and even in Virginia. Before your attack my "fantasies" maybe you should address your um...)

Have you ever worked with Oregon loggers? or even logging?

Given that while I was in high school here, two kids working setting choke died from entangling chains, recording that as a work accident goes; no one would bat an eye. After the third time I nearly got killed thanks to a lame cat' driver, I just walked off the job. People also get killed by logs rolling on them -- I'm surprised that one hasn't been used for getting rid of gay guys (or maybe it has). And if the sheriff signs the report, well, it must be true, right? I mean, he's our duly elected public servant!

 

[Kulindahr]

better yet...

how did a conversation about male nudity become one more lecture on the wonders of guns

getting really really really really really really old

Ask Marbas, bw92116, and Soilwork, who dragged it off-topic.

 

[Soilwork]

Have you ever worked with Oregon loggers? or even logging?

Given that while I was in high school here, two kids working setting choke died from entangling chains, recording that as a work accident goes; no one would bat an eye. After the third time I nearly got killed thanks to a lame cat' driver, I just walked off the job. People also get killed by logs rolling on them -- I'm surprised that one hasn't been used for getting rid of gay guys (or maybe it has). And if the sheriff signs the report, well, it must be true, right? I mean, he's our duly elected public servant!

And carrying a gun would stop logs from rolling on you?

 

[Magician]

And carrying a gun would stop logs from rolling on you?

Picturing this may have just made my week.

 

[Marbas]

how did a conversation about male nudity become one more lecture on the wonders of guns

Ask Marbas, bw92116, and Soilwork, who dragged it off-topic.

Oh yeah, that's right I was the first person to mention guns in this thread.

 

[robbieadam]

It's like in school when something like this used to come up in a novel and the whole class would just burst out laughing. In college people seemed to mature a little more but there was still the odd person who would be this way.

 

[Soilwork]

Ask Marbas, bw92116, and Soilwork, who dragged it off-topic.

Um... you were the one actually who brought up how you wanted your boyfriend to hold your hand while wearing a gun in a hip holster.

things kinda descended from there.