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Why white liberals are abandoning Obama

While I voted enthusiastically for Obama in 2008, I will likely vote but with much less enthusiasm this time.

My choices are separated by a vastness the likes I have not seen in my life:

1. A sitting president who inherited an economy that wasn't just faltering -- it was in freefall. Ever look at the statistical reports from labor, treasury, and IRS? I have never in my lifetime seen more than 750,000 jobs being shed monthly (and I'm 54). Those that have jobs are now facing stagnation in wages and paying a higher and higher share of their health care premiums as employers try to limit their liability and push increases from employer to employee.

2. I feel he was either poorly advised or eternally optimistic that by "being nice" he could change the tone in Washington. George Bush, Ronald Reagan and even Bill Clinton found out that you out-maneuver your opponents and box them into a corner with the fear of public humiliation -- you can't talk to them. The Congress is even more polarized with the teabaggers who would let government fail just to make their points.

3. As a gay man, I have been able to marry my husband but we don't yet enjoy the benefits of other married couples because of DOMA which appears to (hopefully) be winding its way to extinction. But if Republicans take charge, particularly teabags, I see not only that stopping but the marriage laws of DC being challenged by the feds (unfortunately we are an occupied city that can face hostile takeover by crazies in Congress).

4. A move by Republicans to enrich the rich at the expense of any other. The trickle down economics have proven to be "voodoo" as George I said. In Michigan, Wisconsin and at the national level such theory has shown it transfers wealth -- to the wealthy.

5. The country suffers from a malaise of mediocrity: "We can't" should be the slogan of the next election. We can't be great; we can't dare to dream large and ensure everyone enjoys an American dream; that our children can be educated affordably and provided the health care needed to embrace life (of course we can prevent abortion but once they're born -- well it's time to die). Eisenhower dreamed and built a network of highways that allowed interestate commerce to explode; we can't even agree on a transportation bill that uses collected taxes on gasoline (and a host of other things) to not build but just maintain such a robust system. Our water and sewer systems -- that have ensured we have potable water and treated wastes that allowed you to drink without fear of Mexican trots no matter where you were in this country. That system is past the end of its life but, while it's okay to let a young man die because he doesn't have health care, it seems we're going to milk the infrastructure long past the time it was to die.

6. One party seems to halucinate that if you give the rich more, they'll suddenly hire and build new plants because they'll be just happy as shit. They seem to forget that most rich are fairly thorough and don't invest in something that is not going to produce a return; if there is no demand -- you can eliminate their taxes and they are not going to hire someone to sit on their butt and collect a paycheck.

In my city, I see a more and more polarized government. The newcomers -- the teabaggers -- hate the city and flee at the earliest opportunity. Those that have been empowered for longer times gather on weekends, enjoy each other's company even though they may disagree on politics. Does one ever cross the growing divide and how will they?

Yes, I have been disappointed. But would I, as a middle class gay man, fare better with the candidates I have seen debating that would eliminate my marriage, end my health care protections (just scheduled my colonoscopy which is required under the new health care laws), further reduce my children's incomes, raise their tuition for continuing education, and turn this into a land of Jesus?

I have usually had to seek to find the differences in order to vote; this seems like it's in my face....
 
Liberals abandoning Obama? Fat chance. Less enthusiastic? Maybe.
 
Liberals abandoning Obama? Fat chance. Less enthusiastic? Maybe.

Exactly. Since the OP isn't a "white liberal" (or African-American as per his other thread) I don't know why he's starting threads like this.

I'm not abandoning the President. Yes, I'm less enthusiastic about him because he's going too far to the right to try and appease the republican terrorists. Imagine the devastation the country would face if a tea party republican President were elected.... or appointed by the Supreme Court as W was.

Barack Obama has my vote for 2012, as well as millions of other's votes. Hopefully the republicans won't suppress voting too much. They sure are trying.
 
I think, frankly (practically) everyone is abandoning Obama by this point.
 
Hopefully the republicans won't suppress voting too much. They sure are trying.

Well, hopefully there won't be any more voting registration scandals, now that ACORN no longer exists.
 
The only voting scandals in this cycle involve Republican voter suppression on a scale not seen since the Southern Democrats.
 
Remember when Barack Obama first ran for president and people were really into him?

Bidding for re-election in tough economic times, Obama says there is some "revisionist history" going on about how great that first race was.

His strategy is to bring disillusioned supporters back into the fold by addressing their feelings of discouragement head-on and reminding them they signed up for something tough to begin with — even if now they just remember the "hope" and "change" posters.
 
The private sector is already sitting on $2 trillion. They won't release it because they don't see any demand.


Cash is King when there are too many uncertainties and unresolved issues here and abroad.
 
JohannBessler, isn't that just it, the ideological debate? Business friendly capitalistic policy vs Central Planning.
 
Liberals abandoning Obama? Fat chance. Less enthusiastic? Maybe.

Exactly. Since the OP isn't a "white liberal" (or African-American as per his other thread) I don't know why he's starting threads like this.

I'm not abandoning the President. Yes, I'm less enthusiastic about him because he's going too far to the right to try and appease the republican terrorists. Imagine the devastation the country would face if a tea party republican President were elected.... or appointed by the Supreme Court as W was.

Barack Obama has my vote for 2012, as well as millions of other's votes. Hopefully the republicans won't suppress voting too much. They sure are trying.

dream on generals

apathy is high

abandonment does not mean pulling the lever for a repub - it can

and i imagine some white liberals pulling the stick for romney

but i can better imagine some NOT VOTING

which is almost as bad

love the fear of suppressed voting ................ or rather the suggestion

which is lame
 
There's much speculation that Melissa Harris-Perry's intent was not directed to the rank & file but meant for the white liberals in the MSM. Be warned! Let the right wing media bash the president but you will wear the 'racist' label if you do.
 
So let me get this straight?

White liberals are going to vote for Bachmann?

Or Perry?

Or Cain?

Or Ru-ron-Paul?

Or Huntsman?

Or the other white guys who are snickering over the uninsured dying or the repeal of the repeal of DADT?


Is this how white liberals are abondoning Obama?

They are now supporting the Tea Party maybe?

Or they're starting a new white liberal party?

Is this it?

I'm so looking forward to the thousands of threads and posts we all have to look forward to here that will be focussed on separating the liberal gay voters in the US from voting Democrat.
 
There's much speculation that Melissa Harris-Perry's intent was not directed to the rank & file but meant for the white liberals in the MSM. Be warned! Let the right wing media bash the president but you will wear the 'racist' label if you do.



The sheer political stupidity of turning Obama's reelection into a racial referendum cannot be overstated.

This just in: Not all the fools are Republicans. Recently, one Melissa Harris-Perry, a Tulane professor who moonlights on MSNBC political talk shows, wrote an article for the Nation titled "Black President, Double Standard: Why White Liberals Are Abandoning Obama."
 
You're the only one that seems to care much about this topic. :rolleyes: yawn*

Stop spreading your propaganda. [-X
 
JohannBessler, as far as white* liberals go you are atypical :) I think most people who blog or post a lot on the internet are not typical of their particular subset

*assuming you are white
 
Well God knows, we have every kind of racism among white people in the US, from subtle to not-so-subtle, so far be it from me to declare that the decline in Obama's popularity among white people has nothing to do with race.

And checking out the Gallup poll, his decline started almost immediately, just a month after he took office. In other words, before he'd had a chance to do anything yet. But what the reasons for it are, are not discussed in the Gallup article.

I know in my own case, I'm very disappointed in him, and it has nothing to do with race. I just think he's been weak when he should have been strong, accommodating when he should have been confrontational, and has sent out all the wrong signals at the wrong time.

I voted for him in 08, and I'll vote for him again in 12, but I always knew he was a little too far to the right for my taste.
 
Let's understand that "white liberals" have not abandoned Obama. Obama has abandoned us and the rhetoric that got him elected. I shall - holding my nose - vote for him again (IF he is the nominee).

I don't think the Republicans are racist. I think they are simpletons.

I completely agree. I was a Clinton supporter during the primaries. If anybody ever played the race card, it was Obama.

He has been somewhat a positive for the gay agenda. DADT is now history. I don't give him sole credit for it but without him DADT would still be on the books. He has even stopped defending DOM at long last.

Would it be too much trouble to have a truly liberal progressive in the White House?
 
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