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Why you shouldn't give to the Salvation Army

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We all knew, I hope, that the Salvation Army discriminates against gays and Lesbians in employment. Did you know that they also discriminate in their charity delivery?

Why You Shouldn't Give to the Salvation Army

Bil Browning said:
When a former boyfriend and I were homeless, the Salvation Army refused to help us unless we broke up and left the "sinful homosexual lifestyle" behind. We slept on the street and they didn't help when we declined to break up at their insistence. I've seen the discrimination the Salvation Army preaches first hand.
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There's a video detailing the SA's antigay behavior, too. Don't give them a single cent or a dirty sock this season, or ever. Goodwill Industries will take your old clothes.

And maybe, if we get enough people behind this, we'll stop hearing the annoying bells on every damn corner.
 
Well if they discriminated against employing lgbt people, it wasn't going to be to far-fetched that they did the same act with charity.

I haven't given to them and I won't, but unfortunately I work at a grocery store where I have to hear that obnoxious bell every season.
 
A friend pointed out that "they take people who beg outside liquor stores and have them beg outside grocery stores instead."
 
When I can give, I always choose non-religious/secular organisation...
 
Target announced a few years ago that they wouldn't let Salvation Army ring in front of their stores. I try to shot at Target now instead of Walmart.

It is nice shopping without that damn ringing.
 
jdbadboy said:
Target announced a few years ago that they wouldn't let Salvation Army ring in front of their stores. I try to shot at Target now instead of Walmart.

It is nice shopping without that damn ringing.
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Target has its problems with homophobia too, but mostly at the level of the ownership, who donate tons of money to anti-gay causes. They don't, as far as I know, discriminate against gays in employment, refuse to allow gay couples to shop in their stores, or charge gays higher prices.

And whatever else I may know about the red dot store, not letting the SA ring at their stores counts in their favor.
 
Be that as it may it's still the only charitable organization that gets my donations.
Not giving to them is like not voting for a political candidate who has one view with which you don't agree despite agreeing with a myriad of others.
I also don't shop at stores that won't allow their bell ringers on site.
 
Our local shelter and food banks is run by an inter-faith organization that has much more progressive policies. I'd prefer to donate to a progressive local organization rather than a backwards international cult.
 
seven2go said:
Be that as it may it's still the only charitable organization that gets my donations.
Not giving to them is like not voting for a political candidate who has one view with which you don't agree despite agreeing with a myriad of others.
I also don't shop at stores that won't allow their bell ringers on site.
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No, not giving to them is like not voting for a political candidate who is against you and everything you stand for, and who is probably molesting children in his spare time.

Why would you give to the SA in preference to the many other charities that do similar things? There's nothing they do that no one else does. Why favor homophobic shitheads over other charities that are less homophobic?

What on Earth makes you like them so much, when they wouldn't give YOU the time of day?
 
seven2go said:
Be that as it may it's still the only charitable organization that gets my donations.
Not giving to them is like not voting for a political candidate who has one view with which you don't agree despite agreeing with a myriad of others.
I also don't shop at stores that won't allow their bell ringers on site.
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I don't agree with charities that refuse to help the less fortunate because of religious or political dogma. Disagree with it if you wish, but when you flat out rebuke someone for not fitting in your box, there is a problem.

And I, for one, refuse to support them despite the good they do for other people.
 
Hard-up1 said:
I have a gay friend here in town who is Jewish and of Chilean and Mexican ancestry.

He was worked for, and been helped by Catholic Charities here, so it is not a black and white issue.
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Catholic Charities is a much, much better organization than the Salvation Army. I bet they didn't even preach at him. SA does that, too: their charity is an instrument of their evangelism, not a goal in its own right. In other words, they're not feeding the poor because Jesus said to; they're using food as an instrument to leverage conversions to their particular brand of narrowminded "Christianity."

Jesus would beat the shit out of them.

MoufOfKhaos said:
I don't agree with charities that refuse to help the less fortunate because of religious or political dogma. Disagree with it if you wish, but when you flat out rebuke someone for not fitting in your box, there is a problem.

And I, for one, refuse to support them despite the good they do for other people.
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Just so.
 
I hardly ever give to the salvation army except to drop a few coins in the bucket at holiday time. Most likely, I'll still drops some coins in the bucket this year. There are other charity organizations like feed the children that I give a lot more money to.
 
eddielee said:
I hardly ever give to the salvation army except to drop a few coins in the bucket at holiday time. Most likely, I'll still drops some coins in the bucket this year. There are other charity organizations like feed the children that I give a lot more money to.
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Why would you drop coins in the bucket this year? Why would you want to encourage these motherfuckers? Seriously, I want to know why, having read this, you would do anything other than sneer as you pass.
 
johaninsc said:
I stopped giving them anything when I read about them on JuB last year

I feel the same way about them now as I do about the Republicans
..I'm not supporting anyone who hates me and likely wants me dead and in their Hell
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That's not fair. The Republican Party as a whole is not friendly to gays, but there are some gays who are politically conservative & economically conservative, and find that they believe in what the Republican Party stands for, with the exception of the anti-gay sentiment.

If you are economically conservative & very big on 2nd amendment rights, and pro-life.............I don't see how you could vote for the Democratic Party, even if you were gay.
 
Let's not get off into fiscal conservative vs. liberal issues on this thread, please.
 
GiancarloC said:
Um, the Republican Party has a general stance, Jay. People can be independent, politically and economically conservative, but not tied to that corrupt political party.

If you're gay I don't see how you can support the Republican party seeing as how anti-gay they are. And I'm not talking about "some" republicans. I'm talking about the party line.

Either way, I don't get how one can be economically conservative these days considering the economic realities.
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Sure people can be independent or call themselves "libertarian" or "green party" or "socialist" or whatever they like. But in the United States, it all comes down to 2 major parties -- Democrat or Republican.

If you're a gay liberal, the choice is easy for you -- to vote Democrat.

If you're a gay conservative, the choice is much more difficult. Do you vote for the more "pro-gay" party (the Democrats) and compromise on your economic conservative values? Or do you vote for the Republicans and compromise on voting for your "pro-gay" values?

There are many gays who lean conservative. I was just invited to my local Log Cabin Republicans' holiday party.
 
I really want to report JayQueer for trolling my thread with off-topic bullshit, but unfortunately I've got him on Ignore. Could someone else do the honors?

And please ignore anything further that he posts. I'm going to ask the mods to delete his comments on this thread, and any that quote him.
 
Again, I apologize for the digression above. I made the comment because JohaninSC referenced "Republicans" in his post.

I don't want to digress further. Please feel free to delete my comment from above.

Back on topic -- I don't support the Salvation Army. I have known about their anti-gay policies for a while. I prefer Goodwill.
 
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