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Windows 10? Are you going to do it?

Kahaih said:
^You're fortunate to have the time, patience, and know-how to deal with all of that.

Most people don't. They're easy to spot, of course, as they're the ones who will swear Windows 10 is wonderful. ;)
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Here's the thing. I'm a software developer and I've been testing windows 10 for months on 4 different machines. Furthermore, I've been testing the rollback feature several times on 3 different machines with 2 different previous OS's. Nothing has ever gone wrong. Ever.

I've worked in IT helpdesk support before. What I can tell you is most problems that people have occur between the chair and the keyboard. I've had angry customers who had this apocalyptic problem but as soon as I rushed out to their place the problem has magically gone away. I've had people angrily tell me on the phone that the printers I set up the day before aren't connected. After an hour of driving out to their office, it turned out that they forgot to scroll horizontally to find the right printers.

One of the bad habits that most people recognize as bad habit but have developed it themselves is the habit to blame someone else rather than lift a finger to learn a thing or two. People who have problems with their computers (most of the time) actually did something wrong and automatically blames the computer, the IT, etc. Everyone else but themselves.

One time, I set up a system for this woman's office. She insisted on setting up the password herself. The following day, she angrily called me telling me I did everything wrong. I drove out there. She couldn't log in. She started saying Windows is broken. The computer is broken. Blah blah blah. I finally insisted she give me the password and try to log in myself. It didn't work.

I tried several permutations of the password she gave me and it finally worked. Instead of an "E", she used the number "3". She was then like "oh, I remember now, I thought it would be clever to do that..."

Everyone who's worked in IT knows what I'm talking about. Most problems with computers occur between the chair and the keyboard. This ought to be the universal law of computer use.
 
zombiekiller said:
Your upgrade to 10 probably had a corruption in the registry somewhere. ALL software update are prone to error because ALL data transfer over the internet are prone to data corruption.
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Kind of odd that you posted this /\ right before you posted this \/, don't you think?


zombiekiller said:
Here's the thing. I'm a software developer and I've been testing windows 10 for months on 4 different machines. Furthermore, I've been testing the rollback feature several times on 3 different machines with 2 different previous OS's. Nothing has ever gone wrong. Ever.

I've worked in IT helpdesk support before. What I can tell you is most problems that people have occur between the chair and the keyboard. I've had angry customers who had this apocalyptic problem but as soon as I rushed out to their place the problem has magically gone away. I've had people angrily tell me on the phone that the printers I set up the day before aren't connected. After an hour of driving out to their office, it turned out that they forgot to scroll horizontally to find the right printers.

One of the bad habits that most people recognize as bad habit but have developed it themselves is the habit to blame someone else rather than lift a finger to learn a thing or two. People who have problems with their computers (most of the time) actually did something wrong and automatically blames the computer, the IT, etc. Everyone else but themselves.

One time, I set up a system for this woman's office. She insisted on setting up the password herself. The following day, she angrily called me telling me I did everything wrong. I drove out there. She couldn't log in. She started saying Windows is broken. The computer is broken. Blah blah blah. I finally insisted she give me the password and try to log in myself. It didn't work.

I tried several permutations of the password she gave me and it finally worked. Instead of an "E", she used the number "3". She was then like "oh, I remember now, I thought it would be clever to do that..."

Everyone who's worked in IT knows what I'm talking about. Most problems with computers occur between the chair and the keyboard. This ought to be the universal law of computer use.
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So, no, here is the thing; people spend a lot of money on desktops and laptops, and should be able to expect them to work fine 'out of the box'/'off the shelf'. Consumers are promised, and pay for, 'plug-n-play' and that’s what they want.

They don't want some huge corporation breathing down their necks and/or 'updating'/changing shit every other day – telling them that what they bought yesterday isn't any good today.

If you bought a car that had to have its onboard computer updated constantly you'd likely find another brand/dealer.

And, if Microsoft would get their shit together, put out a product that didn't need shitloads of updates and changes – and stop trying to climb up their customers asses/controlling and logging every move – there wouldn't be any need for 'IT' people/telemarketers, would there?
 
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Spycrosoft... :lol:

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I've not dug into Kaspersky enough to see if I can get it to block those communications. I know you could with Zone Alarm Pro.
 
MaxPower said:
Then I hear that in the user agreement for 10, MS can disable pirated games, and maybe other software too. This has quite a few privacy questions.
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Yeah, you heard it. That information is false. MS can indeed disable pirated games, but ones which do connect to online gaming services. Something every company does, be it for pirated copies or cheating.
 
Paws said:
Yeah, you heard it. That information is false. MS can indeed disable pirated games, but ones which do connect to online gaming services. Something every company does, be it for pirated copies or cheating.
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Since my XP days, I no longer run pirated software. I don't care if anyone else does. That's their decision.
 
I'm starting to feel like this after upgrading my desktop computer:

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Vannie said:
Does windows 10 have ample security(antivirus/firewall) built in? Or should you still purchase a security suite? )
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purchase??
No.
Get AVG or Avast for antivirus, and Malwarebytes Anti-Malware (and Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit) for malware protection. (all are free)
There's another one thats good to have but I can't remember its name right now.


johaninsc said:
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There'd been built-in spyware (that you can't disable) since atleast Windows 7.

Best thing you can do is get into your network router's settings and block *anything* microsoft/windows/msftncsi/windowsupdate/live.com/bing.com/
(probably more too now with win 10).
If your router doesn't have a setting for website/url/keword blocking then its time for a new one.

Problem is that only works if you're at home on your personal network (so perfect for a desktop PC, but if you've got a laptop that you take other places, you need something else on the computer itself (I'd love to know is such software? a hack? exists))


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I did download windows 10 to a flashdrive (at work) but thats it.
 
Kahaih said:
Kind of odd that you posted this /\ right before you posted this \/, don't you think?
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Apparently, you have trouble understanding the difference between chance and absolute. There is no such thing as zero-chance for corruption when it comes to data transfer over the internet. At the same time, I've been fortunate enough to not encounter any error.

My response was for the people who assumed W10 is broken because of problems. I suggested that the reason for their troubles is data corruption during transfer because I've not had any problem in my machines. Like not at all.
 
72-Jay said:
purchase??
No.
Get AVG or Avast for antivirus, and Malwarebytes Anti-Malware (and Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit) for malware protection. (all are free)
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I have used AVG before,and it did well.I just like having an antivirus,a firewall and all the extras all in one. Thanks for the links Jay :)
 
I'm happy with Win10. Everything works -- yes, took a couple of tweaks, graphics, security, etc. -- and it seems to update Defender several times a day, so they are keeping up with the hackers.

As a gamer, Dx12 was a must-have: if not for now, then for coming games.
 
I'm a happy camper now that ASUS and Creative Labs released drivers for the two pieces of hardware that weren't working after updating. Now my Bluetooth and sound card are updated and functioning perfectly as of today. My only gripe is that I liked the 'look' of Windows 7 better with its glass tile type theme. Otherwise 10 is great. I don't do enough of my PC to be worried about being spied on. If they wanna see what games I play, what sites I visit, or what movies/tv shows I watch, fine.
 
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