Working With Will

[stripes]

aw dude


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[nautiboyjeff]

I think it's interesting that you have gone from, hope he doesn't react badly, to now, he's not giving you the right reaction when you leave.

You have a great thing going here. You have met a very good friend, you have even got to have sex with him and you still don't seem satisfied. Enough never seems to be enough. I don't want to sound harsh, but it just struck me that you have had an incredible experience that almost everyone on here is envious of, but your not recognizing the complete joy of it, because of unmet expectations.

I just hope you realize this is the fun of life and enjoy the experience. Enjoy the now because you keep moving the bar, imo. You may be headed for a painful ending if you are expecting a relationship. If you are expecting a relationship, it probably wasn't a good idea to get involved with this guy. If you just want to have fun and see where things go, then it was a good decision.

If you are wanting a successful relationship, you may need to start looking in places where other people are more serious about getting into a relationship. But if your just experiencing life, then you are doing the right thing. The latter just seems to be causing you some angst.

I don't want to be a downer, just wanting you to enjoy this incredible experience.

 

[Kyanimal]

^ Nicely put, Jeff! I totally agree with your perspective/advice for James!

(Of course, we're both looking at it from "further down the road"!)

Keep smilin'!!
Chaz

 

[Ares]

You have a great thing going here. You have met a very good friend, you have even got to have sex with him and you still don't seem satisfied. Enough never seems to be enough. I don't want to sound harsh, but it just struck me that you have had an incredible experience that almost everyone on here is envious of, but your not recognizing the complete joy of it, because of unmet expectations.

Is this really considered an incredible/enviable experience?

A close straight friend who you are attracted to and knows you are attracted to him, capitalizes on it and uses you for his own sexual gratification.

It's almost like a fairytale.

 

[Kyanimal]

Sorry, Ares, but I don't see this as a one sided, self centered, exploitive "take", by either Will or James. It could also be argued that James took undo advantage, which I don't believe was the case, either. I think both guys involved should be given more credit than that. I see this more as a mutual sharing. And, yes, I would consider it an enviable experience from both points of view.

Keep smilin'!!
Chaz

 

[Ares]

double post..my bad

 

[Ares]

Oh I'm sure it wasn't one-sided. Superboy obviously wanted it too. It's just unfortunate that his friend didn't realize or care that after using superboy for his own instant gratification, it would leave his friend in a state of even deeper emotional turmoil.

I mean, personally, if somebody told me that they liked me, and I knew I would never return those feelings, there is no way I would be jumping into the sack with them a few hours later. Sure, it's an easy conquest but in the end it's just selfish and cruel.

And then telling superboy to "buck up, it's basically a dream come true" just seemed ridiculous to me.

I guess the moral of the story is don't sleep with your straight friends. The straight guy gains all of the control and has fun while you are stuck somewhere in emotional limbo.

 

[Blueboy369]

They both got what they wanted. Nobody was used for selfish reasons. Let's not get too deep about the issue. It was casual and fun. Personally, if I wasn't interested in someone, I wouldn't have sex with them. He was as into it as superboy.

 

[Ares]

I've been struggling the past two days to not let myself fall for him. I can't stop thinking about him and it's bad.

I felt my heart sink. I looked at him when I walked away, hoping he'd look back too and he didn't.

this is completely one-sided. It hurts being reminded of that.

It was casual and fun.

Sure, sounds like a blast.

 

[Blueboy369]

Superboy, you need to enjoy yourself and not over think things. He is a great new friend with benefits and that's it. In the mean time, keep your options open. Date other people and appreciate what you have without thinking about what you don't have.

 

[Kyanimal]

We both decided he needed to stay the night since we would be drinking, obviously. We had a few beers and watched some tv and just talked about stuff. And sure enough, we got on the subject of me being gay. He asked if I ever thought about him "in that way." I was totally honest and told him I have a crush on him and pretty much have had one on him since the day I saw him. He just laughed and said he was flattered. He said that if I was a chick, he'd want to do me all night and as much as I could handle. He said I'm "the hottest guy friend" he's ever had and I'm sexy and have a great personality, but he said he's not gay and doesn't feel sexual feelings for me.

So the first round I won and I told him he had to kiss me. So we kissed. It was so hot. He just laughed because I was a little speechless.

The next round he won and told me he wanted to save his and would let me know when he thought of something. When I woke him up to move him to the couch, he said he didn't get his dare. He wanted me to give him a blowjob.

He said not to do it if I thought it would ruin our friendship because that's what meant the most to him. I told him I would be fine, I was worried about him freaking out. He just grabbed my hand and put it on the button of his pants. So, I unbuttoned them and he laid back and I'm sure you can figure out the rest. It was the hottest night of my life. By far. I seduced a straight guy.

He has not acted weird at all. So whats up with this? I figure I shouldn't put any thought into it and just go on like normal. Right?

I can't complain though. It's moments like this that I'll look back on and know that I led an interesting young life, I suppose.

After I got his pants and underwear off I just felt his whole body. I felt his legs and up his hips and his sides and his chest back down his stomach to his dick. I wanted to test my boundaries. He let me though.

It just felt good and the alcohol got me a little sleepy, but I promise I'll stay awake now." So I went back to work and it went really fast after that. He actually watched me doing it this time.

Then he asked me where I wanted him to cum. I just said to do it in my mouth and he said that's what he'd prefer too. And told me "put it deep in your mouth, I'm about to get off." I can still hear him saying that in my mind it was so hot.

the first thing he said was "we'll say that will be our one and only time" and laughed. So hopefully it won't be. haha.

So I know he's not avoiding me and he didn't act any different whatsoever yesterday. I gave him a ride back to his truck and on the way he told me that I remind him of his best friend in high school who moved away and never told him he was leaving or goodbye or anything. So he said he felt like this was a second chance. That meant a lot to me. So, here I sit, back in the friend zone, but it's okay with me. I'd rather have a really cool best friend who I harbor a crush for, but he's not afraid to stay nearby than have lost him after Thursday night.

Actually, YES!, it does sound like a blast!

Both have been nothing but up front, honest, concerned for, and open with each other. I see absolutely NO signs of cynical exploitation on the part of either. Would they both agree they had a Great Time? I am thinking, "YES!"

Granted, Superboy now has some "tumult" to deal with. But, he is also man enough to know that his problems are coming from inside himself, NOT from Will.

And as for Will being "inconsiderate" ... how could he possibly know what Superboy is feeling when it has not been within his own realm of experience?? And, even acknowledging that, Will's responses have been more than commendable!

I suppose my concern against emphasizing the Negatives might be considered a Hijack of this thread. But, I also realize that overplaying the Positives is not a balanced approach, either.

Looking at the whole picture, however, urges me to Encourage Superboy to Relax!, Enjoy!, and Cherish! such a Wonderful Experience, simply for what it was, and what I would consider an Awesome Friendship, exactly for what it is!

Keep smilin'!!
Chaz

 

[Kyanimal]

Superboy, you need to enjoy yourself and not over think things. He is a great new friend with benefits and that's it. In the mean time, keep your options open. Date other people and appreciate what you have without thinking about what you don't have.

Exactly!!

Keep smilin'!!
Chaz

 

[Coffee]

You're in a good situation which some people want to be in, but not me. Because I've been there before. It tore me apart between standing still as friends watching him go on with another one and trying widening the border.
It killed me more and more when it come to the situation in which he have to chose between me and her. And it's obviously he choose her, and I have no right to give any shit about it. Like he cancel hanging out because she need him to do something though she certainly can do it herself, or she appears in our appointment for a movie. I couldn't say no.
Like that, so since then, in any start of friendship or so, I lock my heart from anything not to be sure to happen. Kinda cruel to my heart but it prevent troubles later.
Hope you'll be able to move on without any hurt...

 

[nautiboyjeff]

If you want a truly healthy relationship, then you need to find guys that are in the right mindset to have a relationship.

On the other hand if you want some fun sexual encounters, then you are totally in the right place.

You have to decide!

You are young, I think you should enjoy your relationships, keep them light, not get so serious. You will have plenty of time to find Mr. Right. Just be careful and safe so there are not consequences to deal with later.

You put a lot of pressure on yourself for some sort of relationship. Enjoy your youth and spirited adventures, there's plenty of time to settle in to a relationship for the long haul. Who knows, might find the best relationship along the way.

Good luck and RELAX!

 

[Ares]

Which brings me to another point. Jeff was right that I continue to raise the bar, unhappy with the previous outcome and continuing to want more. I actually was thinking pretty much the same thing earlier today. I think it's just part of human nature to want to test boundaries until we get a clear fix on the subject at hand. But I've decided that I should be grateful for what has happened and not expect more than that. If I happen to be given more, then I will be grateful for that too, but I won't expect it. You're right, Jeff. I was given a situation that many people would be envious of. It's something I have drooled over in porn and stories and now it happened to me and yet I had to whine about how it wasn't becoming something bigger. It was fun and now it's over, but I still have a good friend out of it. What more can I ask for?

I'm glad you are happy.

I still don't think you are greedy or in the wrong for wanting more. This isn't like a child wanting an extra cookie for dessert or something. A person you liked allowed your relationship to go into an extremely intimate place. I think it's only natural that you would want to have intimate feelings to go along with that.

(and BTW, he should be the grateful one, not you )

 

[Just_Believe18]

I was given a situation that many people would be envious of. It's something I have drooled over in porn and stories and now it happened to me and yet I had to whine about how it wasn't becoming something bigger. It was fun and now it's over, but I still have a good friend out of it. What more can I ask for?

This is the answer to your entire thread, and you did it all by yourself.

How many times have we read the "straight curious" stories on these boards? How many times have we said, "Lucky you! Wish it happened to me?" Well it happened to you, Superboy. You got every gay man's fantasy come true. The straight best friend who taps pussy wanted some head. There you go. Fantasy fulfilled.

 

[yeahman21]

That is a good friend. And youre huge dude you should of rocked that guy \. =)

 

[kramer362]

holy shit he does sound secure. It really would be an ideal thing if you weren't interested in a relationship at the moment since you guys seem so close. You need to make an example of that guy in receiving and beat the shit out of him, you look like you could take of yourself

 

[PlayingwithChance]

Sooo... when you're done with him, I have ticket #2 okay? That's right bitches, get in line, I'm next!

LOL

Wow Superboy, you've found the DREAM fuckbuddy. I mean, SERIOUSLY... I would just shit myself. Boy are you building up debt to the Universe... perhaps after this your line of credit with fate will dry up, ouch! Hopefully not I tease. Best of luck buddy, just enjoy it for what it is, and que sera sera!

 

[GL]

james! i wish i had seen your thread earlier but thankfully you've been getting great advice from the regulars. the only thing i can think to say is to second the advice telling you to not over think this, to enjoy the ride and to not put too much of your heart in this friend of yours. its awesome that you found someone who is curious and sounds like he may be willing to experiment but knowing you want something more? someone with whom you can share your heart with? i would tell you to not to stop looking.