Working With Will

[More_guy2004]

I've read this entire thread and the one about you and Josh as well. And quite honestly, I can't believe that you would do Will the way Josh has you. So he hasn't came right out and said he wanted anything serious yet , but he HAS shown interest in you or else things would not have gone the way they have with you. You at least should respect him enough to give him some time. But now you are willing to jeopardize all of that so soon for someone else? I'm disappointed in you! Sounds like Will needs to move on and forget you.

 

[cityboi]

Will is still eyeing women and verbalizing it. He's not ready for any commitment at this time. It may take him years to find himself. Kyle has affirmed his sexuality and has an interest in you. You have far better potential with Kyle. It would be honorable of you to tell each of them about the other, noting that you are not in a comitted relationship with either. If you and Kyle get into a comitted relationship that may not be for some time. You could still then be a mentor to Will with Kyle at your side to keep things in check between you and Will.

 

[nautiboyjeff]

Show your wild side and do a three-way with all of them. That will send all of this over the top!

 

[Blueboy369]

James,
You are not engaged or even living with a partner. You don't owe anyone any explanations. You're just dating and there is nothing wrong with that. Don't let anyone make you feel bad. Enjoy your freedom.

 

[inlovewithblair]

Okay, so I expected some barbs from at least some of you. I was prepared for that. But let me defend myself. First off, I said a long time ago that I wasn't wanting something serious with Will. We're, first and foremost, friends. I do still have feelings for him, so don't think that I'm over this and moving on. That's why I'm coming here, wanting some advice, because I'm NOT over him. But I am attracted to Kyle who seems like he'd be a cool guy and I'm not committed to Will, so why can't I talk to Kyle? And I am going to ask Will for his advice today. Here in a few hours I'll call him and see what he thinks. Then we'll see what's up.

You hurt Will...I hurt you. Mister.

 

[GL]

You hurt Will...I hurt you. Mister.

i would venture to guess that a 'no flame zone' also entails you be respectful and not levy threats to others. regardless your post strikes me as rather childish.

Yikes, guys! Now I'm getting threats! Don't worry, I told Will everything. I called him and told him I needed some advice, so we went to lunch. I told him that I was sorta set up on a date last night and everything went well but I couldn't stop thinking of him (Will) the whole time. And I asked him if he thought I should go out with Kyle again or am I right for wanting it to be him (Will). He said he was flattered, but wasn't ever wanting a relationship or anything serious. But he was glad I brought it up because he wants to stop messing around. He said he doesn't feel like it's what he wants and doesn't want to lead me on. But we're still best friends and he thinks I should go out again with Kyle.

I'm hurt pretty bad, but I'm glad it happened this way instead of things ending badly. And I'm glad it happened now before we got in deeper. But no matter how many excuses I make, it won't hide the fact that it sucks.

I still think he's at least bi. I just don't think he's ready to come to terms with what happened between us. He was curious and now that he's experimented some, he can go back to hiding. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's the way I see it.

well of course your hurt james, you were careful throughout but i can see how you reached your heart out to him and i'm sure he cares a great deal for you in return. and who knows? perhaps he is bi and just not ready. i will give you props though for talking this out with will. now you know where you both stand with one another. i'm guessing that at some level this was not what you were hoping for.

 

[AstareGod]

well of course your hurt james, you were careful throughout but i can see how you reached your heart out to him and i'm sure he cares a great deal for you in return. and who knows? perhaps he is bi and just not ready. i will give you props though for talking this out with will. now you know where you both stand with one another. i'm guessing that at some level this was not what you were hoping for.

I don't care what others here say; the fact that Will felt comfortable enough with you to share something so personal and physically intimate tells me something. I for one don't start anything sexual until I can trust the person, and I kinda sensed that's what happened here. Maybe he's more free with his sexuality with women, but with other guys, to be that comfortable with exploring that side with you, tells me there's a higher level of trust going on.

Secondly, even though Will is deciding to halt any further sexual intimacy, I would be very happy with the fact that he wants to remain best friends with you. Sexual intimacy is a great way to open up many lines of communication because I think the fact that you were comfortable physically will translate into you two being comfortable emotionally as well.

And last but not least, don't be sad it's over; be glad it happened! I know it sucks being torn in between two possibilities, but I'm sure if you keep following your heart and doing what you think is right, only good can come out of this. Good luck with everything and I hope to continue reading great things about you!

 

[JarodA]

I'm sorry James . I hope you and Will can remain friends, and now I guess you can feel fully free to see how things go with Kyle.

I guess that means that this is the end of the whole Will saga. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted, and I was really hooked on this whole thread.

Don't stop posting though. Make sure you update us on Kyle (although I'm sure the Kyle story will be much more straight-forward than the Will one.

It doesn't sound like you got in too deep with Will. You seem really attracted to Kyle so if

 

[Blueboy369]

I guess, in the back of your mind, you figured it would turn out this way. Be glad for the experience and that you made a friend with such interesting benefits! I hope that you can move on with minimal heartache. Kyle sounds like a great new friend to make and who knows where this new friendship could lead? Turn a page and while your at it, (when your ready) you should start a new thread with a new title. We will be here if you should need us.

 

[cityboi]

This is another classic "one door opened while another door closed" scenario. Lucky for you there is another guy there when one is ready to move on. Many people have long periods of lonliness between relationships. You have to respect Will for his ability to test the waters even if he's not ready to decide yet. You have to accept Kyle for his openess and his interest in you.

 

[ontheroad]

So I think Will is at least bi. I mean, he told his dad about James and such. Maybe he is more attracted to women, or maybe he's not ready for a commitment at this point in time. But I am just curious, when you told Will about Kyle, did he seem upset at all?

 

[voyager]

I'm sorry things did not work out with Will as many of us had hoped and I cannot help but feel a bit responsible for your hurt . . . after all, many of us were telling you to put yourself out there and continue developing the relationship with Will. I know there are many who read this thread that would love to just hold you and tell you that things will get better again.

It is great that you and Will have such a good relationship that you could come to terms today and discuss what has transpired and that above all, you want to maintain your friendship. From the beginning, this is what you wanted, and obviously that relationship will survive. I think Will will look back with fond memories someday and, as he comes to grips with his sexuality, will realize that he should have done more with you since he had a wonderful guy to guide him, but this apparently was not the right time for him. He was willing to go as far as he did because he valued his friendship with you and wanted to keep you in his life, but it shows tremendous maturity that he can continue that friendship while stepping aside so that you can be happy and possibly start a relationship with Kyle.

Since Kyle is out, you may not be needing advise on this forum, but I, like many others, hope you will continue to let us know what is happening. There are too many of us that have come to care for YOU that would love to hear what is happening with in your life.

Hoping this opens a beautiful chapter for you, I wish you all the best!

 

[Muscles4daze]

Yikes, guys! Now I'm getting threats! Don't worry, I told Will everything. I called him and told him I needed some advice, so we went to lunch. I told him that I was sorta set up on a date last night and everything went well but I couldn't stop thinking of him (Will) the whole time. And I asked him if he thought I should go out with Kyle again or am I right for wanting it to be him (Will). He said he was flattered, but wasn't ever wanting a relationship or anything serious. But he was glad I brought it up because he wants to stop messing around. He said he doesn't feel like it's what he wants and doesn't want to lead me on. But we're still best friends and he thinks I should go out again with Kyle.

I'm hurt pretty bad, but I'm glad it happened this way instead of things ending badly. And I'm glad it happened now before we got in deeper. But no matter how many excuses I make, it won't hide the fact that it sucks.

I still think he's at least bi. I just don't think he's ready to come to terms with what happened between us. He was curious and now that he's experimented some, he can go back to hiding. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's the way I see it.

Good thing you didn't pass up on Kyle, because Will would have disappointed you. I think nine times out of ten those closet cases are usually a waste of time.

 

[JarodA]

Please continue to post James. We'd love to hear how things go with Kyle. The Will saga ends, the Kyle saga may begin.

 

[kramer362]

You were honest with him and he took it well. And it doesn't seem like things will have to be awkard, and you can keep him as a friend. I'd say it went well, it sucks it hurt a bit but you have Kyle to focus on

 

[inlovewithblair]

My heart is bruised. My eyes are tearing. My stomach aches. My skin is crawling.

You just had to ruin it.

 

[inlovewithblair]

Please continue to post James. We'd love to hear how things go with Kyle. The Will saga ends, the Kyle saga may begin.

Kyle will never be Will.

Will was the straight boy who did really cute, romantic things even when he wasn't trying. Kyle is a wannabe.

 

[inlovewithblair]

i would venture to guess that a 'no flame zone' also entails you be respectful and not levy threats to others. regardless your post strikes me as rather childish.

...says the man with a cartoon in his signature. Don't be so uptight, it's obvious I was joking.

 

[ontheroad]

My heart is bruised. My eyes are tearing. My stomach aches. My skin is crawling.

You just had to ruin it.

I hear ya, cuz we are all in love with Will. lol.

 

[JarodA]

Yeah, it is a pity about Will. James has become somewhat of an idol for many of us I think. He has gay guys and straight guys lining up around the block.