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Would you ever date a positive guy?

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Nom: I don't get the "mechanical anal sex" reference. Can you explain what you mean? Is that just sex with a condom or something more?


What I meant, is that we'd ONLY be able to fuck. It wouldn't be safe for me to get passionate and oral with him the way i'd want to be.


I'm more of an oral than an anal person.
 
My partner of more than 2 years was diagnosed positive nearly 20 years ago. He told me the night we met. I can honestly say it has never been an issue.

He has been on treatment for 10 years and his viral load is so low that I am probably far safer having sex with him than with guys who don't know their status, and may be recently infected.

Some of you guys really need to educate yourselves about HIV.
 
How many times do we have to have this topic posted, it's really getting annoying.

HIV is not a death kiss. it also should not be a label or definition.

Most of the time if you're on the correct meds you can get your viral load down to virtually undetectable and actually live a normal long life.
 
For the 3532454235432 thousand time

No i wouldn't its too much of a risk condoms do break and i don't feel like worrying all the time did i caught it etc. It would make the relationship less enjoyable on both ends
 
I went out with a guy for 6 mos before he told me he was poz (he was 18, I was 17). He was from a strict Irish-catholic family. He was afraid his family would disown him if they found out he was gay, much less poz.

Well, he came out to them one Christmas and his father threw him out. I let him come live with us (I still lived at home). It was only then that he told me he was poz. I was devastated, not because I thought I was at risk (because I had only had oral sex) but because he did not tell me sooner. I knew then i could not date him anymore.

So for me right now my answer would be no, but for the personal reason I just gave.
 
Yes. But since I've never fallen into one, this answer is subject to change anytime.
 

It's not that easy. I'm pretty good at searching for information, but if people spell things differently or the words are very common (like "HIV"), it could take a while. This is a serious question, not a criticism - How would you enter search terms to get the results you posted here? Did you get hundreds of posts and then scan the titles? Two of them have "HIV" in the title, but one only says "poz". This forum is huge - a good and bad thing when seeking information.
 
Yeah I would.

In my mind I assume that everyone is and play safe according to that.
 
I would do. Deep kisses aren't a risk practice, fellation is a low risk practice if you are afraid about it just use a condom when you are sucking.
 
Last time this thread came up I said "I would like to say yes, but I honestly don't know." Since then I've learned a lot about HIV/AIDS and have been with a (known) poz guy, albeit with non-risk activities only.

My answer has changed to "probably", though I can't be sure until it happens.
 
The optimist in me believes people shouldn't be judged for past actions. And if they got aids through birth then they shouldn't be judged at all! But the end result is that I would worry, but at the same time you worry even if he doesn't have HIV.

Pretty fucked up, while you try to come off self righteous about not judging as you open your very next sentence reveals how you truly feel with the little baby remark.
Of the guys I know with HIV, and there are plenty I can honestly say that judging someone based on getting a disease never would cross my mind. I can also say that they are good, cool, productive, prosperous, loving & giving people of themselves and resources, these are attributes that I can judge on not over a disease.

This bug catcher lore is always in doubt and at best the minority. If someones character in your mind is that they are a slut and that is the actions you are judging on then you certainly don't have to have HIV to be a slut. I could be wrong but this is what you seem to be saying in your post, at least as I read it.

Who you date or don't date of course I can respect we have choices. Can't blame anyone who wants more disciplined and caring people in their lives over a sleaze life style. A disease isn't a life style though. Even a person who could be a bit wild certainly would never choose to get any form of std and may be careful to prevent it.

Who in the hell chooses to get any disease? How do you judge a person who has laid out in the sun for many years because they liked a tan then gets skin cancer? Are they of a weaker moral fiber then you because of their actions and not worthy?
..But then again a little baby who has skin cancer should never be judged based on this as well.

People, young or even older never think anything bad will happen to them and then guess what. They are riding their bike and hit a rock and fall off and break their back at 32 confined to a wheel chair or they get lung cancer but never smoked a cigarette in their life, or they have a stroke and their face is fucked up and they can't talk but they are only 43. Disease and trauma will effect every human at some point either directly or indirectly through their actions

You will watch your family, friends, and acquaintances get sick and die through time but even then you will never focus a lot of the fact that the same thing can happen and will happen to yourself. Everyone wants to die in their sleep, no one thinks that they likely will have a extended time of illness before they die and it could happen tomorrow when you are 25 or at 61. If you try and base a relationship purely on the fact of not wanting to be in a relationship where your partner is ill and is a burdon to your style then , in my judgment not worthy of being considered morally intact for any relationship.

My Father loves dogs. But he will never have another as he can't bear to have to deal with the heartache when the animal gets old or hurt and must be put down. It is gut wrenching. I understand this and its so true but he denies something that he misses and I can see it in his eyes because his basis for choosing for a bonding with a animal is fucked up and selfish, but it his reasoning.

My own partner died of Liver cancer, not HIV he was a tad older than me. Wow, one day in July he had a back ache, it didn't go away. After returning from vacation he had a biopsy on his liver that he didn't tell me was on his liver. Now its Oct. In Dec he was told he had liver cancer. It went downhill quickly and was fucking awful. He died in early March less than a year later at only 42. I would have cared for him and done anything needed for the rest of his life had that been 10 or 20 ys. Because I loved him and I never judged that all that drinking could be the reason for this.
I think I would do it again if the right guy came along and he told me upfront that he has liver problems.

Your wording just shows the intense conditioned stigma internal bigotry directed towards people who more times then not are guilty of nothing more then doing what humans have always done and that is having intimacy. Usually not the result of a lifestyle of gang-bangs and non-stop cum slurping of putting their cock in every glory hole on I-95 between Miami and Boston.
 
Vulgar, I don't think that was the gist of his post, but I could be wrong.

I believe he was trying to say that regardless of our noble intentions, it is the human condition to shy away from the inevitability of our own mortality.

But the end result is that I would worry, but at the same time you worry even if he doesn't have HIV.

The idea is that without knowing the status of your partner, to be "safe" one must assume they are positive and take the necessary precautions.
 
Well, he came out to them one Christmas and his father threw him out. I let him come live with us (I still lived at home). It was only then that he told me he was poz. I was devastated, not because I thought I was at risk (because I had only had oral sex) but because he did not tell me sooner. I knew then i could not date him anymore.

How on earth can someone throw their child out of the house. They're your flesh and blood and you accept them for who and what they are. Homophobes are sick, pathetic demons. I hope this boy's Father is still struggling with his decision and has sleepless nights over it.
 
if he is upright honest with it before we have sex - yes. if he only tells me later or i find out otherwise, there won't be any more dates.
 
It's not that easy. I'm pretty good at searching for information, but if people spell things differently or the words are very common (like "HIV"), it could take a while. This is a serious question, not a criticism - How would you enter search terms to get the results you posted here? Did you get hundreds of posts and then scan the titles? Two of them have "HIV" in the title, but one only says "poz". This forum is huge - a good and bad thing when seeking information.
First off, you're not an obnoxious troll like the OP, so you'd be less likely to attract the kind of response that I gave. ;) Also, he's been here longer, so he should have a better feel for which topics have already been beaten to death.

As for the search terms, I searched topic titles for "would" "date" and "HIV." I did get a lot of unrelated threads, but the three that I shared were on the first five or six pages, so it took less than two minutes to find them all.
 
I must admit that his statis was at the back of mind sometimes, but again it was less about the sex and infection and more about facing his mortality, (which meant acknowledging mine).

Well said, and that applies to anyone with any of a wide range of medical conditions. If you love someone, you take the risk that [insert medical issue here] may get worse at some point.
 
Probably not (Unless he is so perfect). At this point in my life, the risk isn't worth it.
 
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