16 yr. old has sex change

[innocentbychoice]

To the ones saying she's angry and annoying: Dudes, she's making a joke out of a real situation. She's trying to be funny, if you didn't think it was, then fine but it's all in a good spirit. Relax.

 

[innocentbychoice]

Nobody's body is wrong. Nobody has to make their body conform to how their emotional & mental gender is. No matter what your gender is on the inside, your body already matches it perfectly. That is the message of freedom I'm trying to promote, instead of body image/gender fascism. Feminism gave all of us a message of self acceptance, and self expression, and this does not depend on how your body looks or works.

I know it is hard to understand in such a black & white world, but we really risk messing with people's lives. When we can't even imagine how someone could feel whole and happy how can we give advice and support?

That's not for us to decide. It's up to the person living that situation.

 

[Phoenix3]

To the ones saying she's angry and annoying: Dudes, she's making a joke out of a real situation. She's trying to be funny, if you didn't think it was, then fine but it's all in a good spirit. Relax.

She was goofin around, yes.. but you can still see her trying to make a point around some of the "questions" and the way she reacted was ridiculous. Not everyone is knowledgeable when it comes to sex changes. Doesn't make them assholes or anything like that.

Again, I'm could see she was having fun with the whole thing.. it was just annoying.

 

[bankside]

That's not for us to decide. It's up to the person living that situation.

Whether you agree or not, nobody has to make their body "conform" to how their emotional & mental gender is. If no one else agrees with that, I will decide it for us.

Nobody has to do it. Period. Some people might not be able to do it. And there are a lot of well-meaning busybodies on here who are rushing to say that the body obviously, necessarily, inevitably, preferably, has to "match" whatever that even means.

Anything a person enjoys or requires in their emotional life as a male or as a female can be done with or without a specific kind of anatomy.

You say it's up to the person living that situation, but I think that person could be under a terrible amount of pressure from the kind of advice in this thread. It paints a picture that life is hopeless unless they have major surgery. I'm not opposed to trans surgery, but I'm not going to pick someone up and practically throw them onto the bandwagon either. Surgery does not induce maleness or femaleness in someone's self, which is what really matters. If even maleness and femaleness exist anyway as an important concept.

Even more, I'm a complete a supporter of people who feel free to be themselves without throwing themselves under the nearest male or female gender cookie cutter. Be your pan-gender physical and emotional self, and if you decide to go for surgery, do it with your eyes open that a lot of people are promoting only two choices, male or female. You don't have to settle for either choice.

I think at least in this thread, I'm actually a rare defender of the idea that it truly is up to the person living in that situation.

 

[innocentbychoice]

^Nobody has to do it, we agree with that. But if someone makes the decision to do it, I can't really say they did it because of the pressure society puts in them. Noone would force a boy, as feminine as he could be, to become a woman -via plastic surgery or whatever-.

 

[StlKj]

Whether you agree or not, nobody has to make their body "conform" to how their emotional & mental gender is. If no one else agrees with that, I will decide it for us.

Nobody has to do it. Period. Some people might not be able to do it. And there are a lot of well-meaning busybodies on here who are rushing to say that the body obviously, necessarily, inevitably, preferably, has to "match" whatever that even means.

Anything a person enjoys or requires in their emotional life as a male or as a female can be done with or without a specific kind of anatomy.

You say it's up to the person living that situation, but I think that person could be under a terrible amount of pressure from the kind of advice in this thread. It paints a picture that life is hopeless unless they have major surgery. I'm not opposed to trans surgery, but I'm not going to pick someone up and practically throw them onto the bandwagon either. Surgery does not induce maleness or femaleness in someone's self, which is what really matters. If even maleness and femaleness exist anyway as an important concept.

Even more, I'm a complete a supporter of people who feel free to be themselves without throwing themselves under the nearest male or female gender cookie cutter. Be your pan-gender physical and emotional self, and if you decide to go for surgery, do it with your eyes open that a lot of people are promoting only two choices, male or female. You don't have to settle for either choice.

I think at least in this thread, I'm actually a rare defender of the idea that it truly is up to the person living in that situation.

There was no "advice" in this thread. No one came in here asking whether or not to have a sex change. No one said that anyone who feels this way MUST have a sex change, only that many of them feel they must.

There has been a lot of discussion about how many of these individuals feel as if they need to match in outer gender as they feel inside. YOU'RE the one who diminishes these individuals by suggesting they only want to change in order to confirm to society's gender "fascism." Puh-leeze--society is so ignorant about these issues that it would instead try to force someone to stay in the physical shell they are uncomfortable in. I've never heard a trans-gendered person say they want to change because of how society sees gender--they do it for themselves.

My advice to anyone who feels this way would be to do what they feel they need to do in order to be who they want. Your advice seemingly would be to just feel okie-dokie about yourself the way you are so you can rail against the mean old establishment, and be some magical creature, like a unicorn.

Something as enormous as a sex change should be an individual decision, period. If one wants to do it, then more power to him or her. If one doesn't want to do it, then more power to him or her.

 

[innocentbychoice]

There was no "advice" in this thread. No one came in here asking whether or not to have a sex change. No one said that anyone who feels this way MUST have a sex change, only that many of them feel they must.

There has been a lot of discussion about how many of these individuals feel as if they need to match in outer gender as they feel inside. YOU'RE the one who diminishes these individuals by suggesting they only want to change in order to confirm to society's gender "fascism." Puh-leeze--society is so ignorant about these issues that it would instead try to force someone to stay in the physical shell they are uncomfortable in. I've never heard a trans-gendered person say they want to change because of how society sees gender--they do it for themselves.

My advice to anyone who feels this way would be to do what they feel they need to do in order to be who they want. Your advice seemingly would be to just feel okie-dokie about yourself the way you are so you can rail against the mean old establishment, and be some magical creature, like a unicorn.

Something as enormous as a sex change should be an individual decision, period. If one wants to do it, then more power to him or her. If one doesn't want to do it, then more power to him or her.

I couldn't have said it better .