"21 detained under suspicion of being gay"

[Apollo]

Here is an interesting thread by Andreus. Some random muslim came and they had a very intelligent although very religious arguement.
http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=119479

Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in God and the Last Day, and do good deeds, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve (Quran 2:62 and 5:69)

 

[Telstra]

The UN has no authority in relgious matters as they should not. The UN needs to worry on figureing out how to help the impoverished and sick in Africa and around the world.

UN = United Nations and they should stick their noses into relgious matters as a human rights issues.

 

[Kurn]

Religion has always been there, and they were very advanced civilization as muslims. It wasn't till Christianity and the West came, that the region got fucked up. Get the wording right.

This is not an accurate historical summary.
The Arab/Muslim Empires took the best of Late Antiquity and preserved it while the Kings of the West were at times illiterate.
The institution of slavery was one institution that they took over from ancient times and preserved until western capitalism decided, why not?
Only, after 2 centuries, Christian conscience took up a crusade against slavery which continued until it was extirpated---everywhere except in certain Muslim centers where it may have begun as far as Africa is concerned.
Christianity has generally been throwing off the old, tired evil things of the past. Layer by layer.
There is little in Muslim civilization of the present day to interest a Christian or a post-Christian. I wish muslims would shake off the damn'd old cocoon.

If religion weren't a school to graduate from, it would be a wholly false thing.

 

[Apollo]

UN = United Nations and they should stick their noses into relgious matters as a human rights issues.

So does that mean religious leaders should stick their noses in to government for religious reasons?

I didn't think so. Cause both examples are the same exact thing. There is such a thing as seperation of church and state. Neither belongs in the others business.

 

[Críostóir]

Be careful here, I’m certain he wrote a Term Paper on the subject. Complete with dozens and dozens of pages and footnotes in obscure languages.

LOL

No, he was religious studies. I was linguistics.

 

[Apollo]

This is not an accurate historical summary.
The Arab/Muslim Empires took the best of Late Antiquity and preserved it while the Kings of the West were at times illiterate.
The institution of slavery was one institution that they took over from ancient times and preserved until western capitalism decided, why not?
Only, after 2 centuries, Christian conscience took up a crusade against slavery which continued until it was extirpated---everywhere except in certain Muslim centers where it may have begun as far as Africa is concerned.
Christianity has generally been throwing off the old, tired evil things of the past. Layer by layer.
There is little in Muslim civilization of the present day to interest a Christian or a post-Christian. I wish muslims would shake off the damn'd old cocoon.

If religion weren't a school to graduate from, it would be a wholly false thing.

Ok, but why buttercoat the Crusades under such a clean banner? The Crusades was a holy war agaisnt Muslims.

I feel that the middle east has recently jumped into the cacoon and need to get out before they are too deeply wrapped in it.

Crusades were fought mainly against Muslims, though campaigns were also directed against pagan Slavs, Jews, Russian and Greek Orthodox Christians, Mongols, Cathars, Hussites, and political enemies of the popes.[1] Crusaders took vows and were granted an indulgence for past sins.[1]

The Crusades originally had the goal of recapturing Jerusalem and the Holy Land from Muslim rule and were originally launched in response to a call from the Eastern Orthodox Byzantine Empire for help against the expansion of the Muslim Seljuk Turks into Anatolia. The term is also used to describe contemporaneous and subsequent campaigns conducted through to the 16th century in territories outside the Levant[2] usually against pagans, heretics, and peoples under the ban of excommunication[3] for a mixture of religious, economic, and political reasons.[4] Rivalries among both Christian and Muslim powers led also to alliances between religious factions against their opponents, such as the Christian alliance with the Sultanate of Rum during the Fifth Crusade.

 

[Telstra]

So does that mean religious leaders should stick their noses in to government for religious reasons?

I didn't think so. Cause both examples are the same exact thing. There is such a thing as seperation of church and state. Neither belongs in the others business.

i give up. remove all the religous leaders and put them in the re-education camp in North Korea for ever and ever amen.

 

[Apollo]

i give up. remove all the religous leaders and put them in the re-education camp in North Korea for ever and ever amen.

We have ended our arguement, but I gotta fix my sentence. I mean't it to say. "There is a reason for seperation of church and state"

 

[BigBoss]

Watch this video and tell me why I should not fear Islam.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3369102968312745410&q=fitna&ei=nidfSLbSIp7k4AKnt4maDQ&hl=en

How about presenting a video when you guys bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Huh we did not had that media coverage at that time, isn't it?

Presenting the same video if any available with a sensational music in the background can make you look creepy, yet you know how many suffered and how they suffered, What you think? Muslims enjoyed the site of 9/11, i bet you are one of those people who think that muslims were greeting each other on the happening of 9/11. Damn stop stereotyping Muslims, people like Bin Ladin represents 20-30% of Muslim Population, are you going to fuck the rest of 70% who share your grief.

I have a flight to catch , so won't be participate anymore, and don't you dare to think that I will crash my plane in Pentagon

Wow Marley 8.5 size... i bet every size queen will now remove you from their ban list

Hump me marley! Hump me

 

[TX-Beau]

It would be a lot easier to deal with the Middle East if we stopped fucking with their countries.

Unfortunately for the foreseeable future, most of them aren’t going to be trusting us.

 

[Apollo]

How about presenting a video when you guys bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Huh we did that had media coverage at that time, isn't it?

Presenting the same video if any available with a sensational music in the background can make you look creepy, yet you know how many suffered and how they suffered, What you think? Muslims enjoyed the site of 9/11, i bet you are one of those people who think that muslims were greeting each other on the happening of 9/11. Damn stop stereotyping Muslims, people like Bin Ladin represents 20-30% of Muslim Population, are you going to fuck the rest of 70% who share your grief.

I have a flight to catch , so won't be participate anymore, and don't you dare that will crash my plane in Pentagon

Wow Marley 8.5 size... i bet every size queen will now remove you from their ban list

Hump me marley! Hump me

I was about to post something like this. The video is pure propaganda bullshit.

Put together a video of God telling Abraham (i think it's Abraham) to kill his son and get back to me.

Well I am off to bed. I bet by the time I wake up, this is 3 more pages into the future.

 

[BigBoss]

And If quoting anything from Koran then kindly search the context it was said, that sentence from Quran shown in the video was written during the war to raise the morals of the soldiers.

 

[Críostóir]

20-30%? Really? That's a much higher percentage than I'd've given him credit for.

 

[Telstra]

BigBoss,
how big is the boss ?
how do u make ur money ?

 

[BigBoss]

20-30%? Really? That's a much higher percentage than I'd've given him credit for.

That percentage comes from discussing with people from Pakistan, no body who is educated approves Ladin deeds, as a matter of fact people think that Ladin was an agent of USA and was used as an excuse to invade Muslim Countries.

 

[TX-Beau]

That percentage comes from discussing with people from Pakistan, no body who is educated approves Ladin deeds, as a matter of fact people think that Ladin was an agent was USA and was used as an excuse to invade Muslim Countries.

Well, we in the US do love a good invasion...

That's intresting, what other rumors are there

 

[BigBoss]

BigBoss,
how big is the boss ?
how do u make ur money ?

You can see the boss on the 2nd page of this thread
http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=213664

And I am doing my articleships in KPMG Pakistan, and earn a little stipend to feed my four cats, still dependent on parents and will earn a lot once i complete my studies, i.e in 2 years.

 

[Telstra]

You can see the boss on the 2nd page of this thread
http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=213664

And I am doing my articleships in KPMG Pakistan, and earn a little stipend to feed my four cats, still dependent on parents and will earn a lot once i complete my studies, i.e in 2 years.

and will you have a big gay wedding is Pakistan ?

Hey u looks like a mongolain (gagas khan) decent.

 

[BigBoss]

Damn i making so many spelling mistakes, i am having high fever and now traveling with four cats to my native town, will reach there in 1.5 hours by air. Hoping that i will escape the trap my parents have laid for me to get married, another problem to deal with. Force marriage..

 

[BigBoss]

and will you have a big gay wedding is Pakistan ?

I am divorced bitch, left my bf two months back, so have no plans to have "Gay marriage" but as marley said its 8.5 inch , I think i am gonna change my plans