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Active Duty's Axl tattoo controversy

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So what, he isn't that good looking. Chaos Men has lots of guys with nazi and confederate tats and shit. this crap is nothing new. they are just gay 4 pay scum just looking to earn some chump change. Active Duty is a shitty site anyways.
 
Dink Flamingo doesn't care about Black ppl.

JaredPad said:
Dink, you absolutely do not get it. I said nothing about condemning AXL nor about whether your answers are believable. Do you have no awareness that the tats that appear on your site cause anger in blacks and that you have the opportunity to say that that bothers you and saddens you? All your postings are about you and your business. No feelings, no empathy for others. You are too busy trying to make yourself look good that you DON'T. I really don't want to attack you, but I'll be go to hell if I let some American brothers of mine be hurt without a protest on my part.
I'm an MD. When a patient of mine has a bad outcome, I say I feel sorry about it. That doesn't mean it's my fault. Why the fuck can't you cowboy up and say it?
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Dink clearly doesn't care about Black ppl. Unless they're members of his site. They can get a refund. He clearly doesn't care to do business w/us unless we're down w/watching white supremacists fuck. LOL

I'm a former Active Duty member (yrs ago) who won't be signing up ever again. I'm ashamed to say I've ever given my money to such a despicable man running such a vile operation.
 
Ninja108 said:
Sorry, you do NOTHING to help the cause about this model and why he should be gone by resorting to personal attacks. And yes I am serious about your post that you made a couple of pages back.
I can show you countless horror stories of how innocent people have been murdered by gang bangers to show how your post about them not really being that bad compared to other groups to be a total joke. All of them are unnacceptable.

P.S. Having learned a new fact about Axl..I can't go with the nieve kid route anymore. But I would still like to hear what he has to say before I fully condemn him.
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Nin, I do not need any advice on how articulate my thoughts and feelings about any given topic. Yes, You should bring any post i made in this thread this is contradictory to my position on this issue.


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quasar said:
Oh please, less of the paranoia!#-oI split this discussion away from the main thread because it's become an issue in it's own right. In the last 7 pages there's very little about the updates featuring Axl, it's all been about whether he is or isn't a White Supremacist, whether he does or doesn't belong to the Aryan Brotherhood, whether Dink is racist, whether the site is racist, we've veered into the gay4pay similiarities of models and site owners disrespecting their audiences and touched upon ethnic diversity in porn in general - in fact I'm pretty sure there might have been a Betty Crocker recipe for Devil's Food Cake somewhere along the line! (Ok, I lied about Betty Crocker, but we seem to have discussed everything BUT the update scenes).

I've been in contact with Dink every day throughout this, and not once has he made any kind of request with regard to how this 'controversy' has been handled. He has, in fact, been extremely understanding of our actions.

Furthermore, how on earth you can perceive a thread title of 'Active Duty's Axl Tattoos controversy' as trying to hide the topic is way beyond me - although I dare say that you've read the paragraph above and translated it as "Dink rang JUB's owner and got the moderator's to try and bury it."

Yet again a perfect example of seeing what one WANTS to see - not what is actually there.
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I admit to going off your condescending attitude then what your explanation was for cutting the issue from the OP thread. I don't agree with it. I also gave you a valid reason why citing the Corbin Fisher thread. That thread is so big that you have to search for anything posted on there. I have known a moderator to go in from time to time and get people back on topic and most ad here to that. I see know reason why that action was not used.

I do not believe it's paranoia when something unusual happens such as this. Now, you may have made sure that you created a topic heading that will draw people into the thread, because as you pointed out Controversy is a powerful buzz word.Though when this thread slips down 4 -5 pages and the Active Duty keeps getting bumped by members of the site no new poster will know about the Controversy. There has also been other incidents which a site owner contacting the owner or admins to make posts even threads disappear. So i am not paranoid.

It amazes me how many people want to slap a label on someone to discredit someone and their views on an issue.A simple explanation as to why without the attitude would have been good. However, no matter how you slice it a new poster probably won't see this thread(too many people don't know how to search or are too lazy. Look at how many people create threads that has already been discussed). The new posters in the Active Duty thread will not see the issues that are discussed and make an informed decision whether or not to spend their money for that site. However, you look at it to me at least it was in Dink's favor. As i stated before if people are want to know about a site and the thread has 200 pages. Then they will read and wade through 200 pages.

Dink has been made aware of this model's tatts and still will keep him employed. He is indifferent on this matter or he simply agrees with Axl to some degree. He's be shown to be untruthful and his hiring practices have also been highlighted to shown a pattern that has and continues to be a hot topic here"Is there Racism in the Gay Community". In threads created by a fan or employee of a site have debates in them as i have pointed out. It helps the person looking for pics and info of the models and also the site's policies and if it's worth to join. Cutting these posts out along is basically not allowing the consumer see the full disclosure and offering a the whole picture to be seen.

I can imagine when a person decides to get a membership because of Brian and come to find out later Dink's hiring practice is racist and he has hired a model with White Supremacy tattoos i bet that consumer will be pissed and as another poster said makes him sick to know he gave Dink his money. In the Corbin Fisher thread his business practices have been discussed heatedly and also his decision to sue teenagers who are still in the closet. Meaning to out them and causing all kinds of damage. Yet, none of those got lobbed off.

Hopefully, you can see my point of view. I do not wish to argue with you. I simply disagree and gives Dink and His Company an "OUT" on this as far as The Active Duty Thread. I believe that everyone should be able to see this along with his updates and not in a separate thread. Though he cannot post pictures in the forum of Axl they still will posted in the Gallery section.


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Re: Old Hats

Rudi Reizlos said:
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Well, I've read it today for the first time in the ATKOL's forum. There I've found some other links as well to older, more or less spectacular crimes ((murder/serial killing/rape/kidnapping) in which former gayporn actors were involved as delinquents or victims.
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It might be in your best interest to actually READ what's already been posted in this thread as you might learn a few things about it.

But again, what do the crimes and misdemeanors of FORMER gay porn stars have to do with a currently ACTIVE and featured model covered in RACIST tattoos? The answer is "nothing" and to keep bringing up that "other people are worse!" is missing the point entirely and has nothing whatever to do with THIS issue.
 
Hellax24 said:
I admit to going off your condescending attitude then what your explanation was for cutting the issue from the OP thread. I don't agree with it. I also gave you a valid reason why citing the Corbin Fisher thread. That thread is so big that you have to search for anything posted on there. I have known a moderator to go in from time to time and get people back on topic and most ad here to that. I see know reason why that action was not used.

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Hopefully, you can see my point of view. I do not wish to argue with you. I simply disagree and gives Dink and His Company an "OUT" on this as far as The Active Duty Thread. I believe that everyone should be able to see this along with his updates and not in a separate thread. Though he cannot post pictures in the forum of Axl they still will posted in the Gallery section.


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To be fair, the Corbin Fisher thread only seems to derail for a page or so at the most but even then it is interspersed with comments about the content of the update and models.

My annoyance has been with your view that there is some kind of conspiracy at work. There are many members that will tell you that I am one of the most transparent and fair moderators here. I don't do 'sneeky, devious and underhand'.

This thread will shortly have more posts than the actual update thread, and the whole point of an update thread is to 'showcase' and discuss the content of the updates - a kind of 'water-cooler' moment that members can dip in and out of.

The last thing I personally want to do is to have to wade through 7 pages of circular arguments in order to get to the next update - and I'm sure that no-one else wants to do that either.

That said, there is a clear reference to the Axl tattoo issue within the update thread and a link to this thread, so that members don't have to search for it. Again, I've made sure that anyone reading through the update thread is aware of a controversy that they can research further - I'm not trying to hide it.

The affiliate galleries are out of the jurisdiction of the moderators, so I can't comment on that - other than to say that it's in the hands of the site owner and Dink.
 
Quasar, Thank you for explaining it better to me. I am sorry i suggested you had dubious motives. This Topic has had me very angry. Many of us find this and the behavior of Dink to be very offensive. It is at this time that we have politicians slinging so much hate against the gay community and now we have someone who is a member and expects equal rights to glorify this model along with his personal views of AF-AM's doesn't help. Every other week there is a thread asking if there is racism in the gay community. They all should be pointed to this thread for the answer.

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I for one don't actually make a habit of checking the Active.Duty thread, and this controversy came to my attention only after the thread was split off and appeared on its own; then I came to find out what the fuss was about (and found a very serious fuss indeed).

No, I'm not typical. No, the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'. Just one data point.
 
CowboyBob said:
Here's a story about the kind of person we're dealing with. It pertains.

http://www.queerty.com/is-it-wrong-to-report-on-a-marine-starring-in-hardcore-gay-porn-20091120/
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Hate to be Devil's advocate but this isn't the same thing as using Axl ( who really needs to give people an explanation at this point).
Dynk didn't out him on that one,websites like Queerty did. More to the point,there have been models who have worked for Dirk Yates AND Military Classified (both of whom have used black,latino and asian models) that also were found out by their bosses,so it's not like it's limited to models from AD. Also should be noted David didn't start to do films until he was out of the military.
Using a model that seems to keep adding racist tattoos is one thing but as far as I'm concerned,the men in uniform who choose to appear on these sites know darn well the risks they are taking. You put that uniform on,you're expected to represent the U.S. with honor,not appear in porn.
You can make a case against a site owner for someone like Axl. But the second part..nope. If we want to get on Dynk's case for that, then we also have to include Dirk and Rob as well.
 
Ninja108 said:
Hate to be Devil's advocate but this isn't the same thing as using Axl ( who really needs to give people an explanation at this point).
Dynk didn't out him on that one,websites like Queerty did. More to the point,there have been models who have worked for Dirk Yates AND Military Classified (both of whom have used black,latino and asian models) that also were found out by their bosses,so it's not like it's limited to models from AD. Also should be noted David didn't start to do films until he was out of the military.
Using a model that seems to keep adding racist tattoos is one thing but as far as I'm concerned,the men in uniform who choose to appear on these sites know darn well the risks they are taking. You put that uniform on,you're expected to represent the U.S. with honor,not appear in porn.
You can make a case against a site owner for someone like Axl. But the second part..nope. If we want to get on Dynk's case for that, then we also have to include Dirk and Rob as well.
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Ninja108, unfortunately, I think you are missing the point that CowboyBob is making by posting the the article written by Queerty. You may remember the controversy regarding Active Duty performer and former Marine, "David" after he appeared in the military publication Leatherneck Magazine. In a letter to Queerty, Dink Flamingo wrote the following:


Queerty has NEVER reported anything about ActiveDuty.com and to have such sleazy and tasteless trash be the first and only article about us is just in poor taste. As a semi-regular reader of Queerty I find it hard to believe that you guys followed The Sword’s lead in posting something that could possibly be so damaging to one of our own. I ask that you now follow their lead once more and please remove the article.

You should really read the entire article. There is no doubt that Dink Flamingo is a hypocrite of the highest order. Dink Flamingo is a racist.
 
I don't see how anyone could continue to defend Dink after the comments he made about why he doesn't use black models.
 
TallOneCA said:
MajorJake101, you'll be happy to know that the owner of Active Duty, Dink Flamingo will be adding a "scorching" scene featuring Axl and his white supremacist tattoos. Flamingo is banking on rubes like you. Get your popcorn ready!
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Iolalucilleboylan said:
I don't see how anyone could continue to defend Dink after the comments he made about why he doesn't use black models.
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wow another gay racist surprise surprise.

its so sad how a lot of gay people claim to be discrimanted against but yet gays discriminate agfainst each other.


I will not be SUPPORRTING DINK , i have cancelled my membership. I CANNOT BELIEVE HE DOESNT USE BLK MODELS PURPOSEDLY. all this trtime i though...woow i am naive.


DINK reallly???:mad:
 
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