Age Difference

[Ringfinger]

I apologize, I fucked up my posts. Read the next one =)

 

[Ringfinger]

I'm not as judgmental but I just see so much hypocrisy and danger in the young/old relationships. It's not going to get us any acceptance from the heterosexuals.

What hypocrisy? What danger?

And why the FUCK should I care if my relationship is viewed upon as strange by society. If they don't accept me for who I am and what I'm attracted to, fuck them. If I really wanted to be accepted by heterosexuals, I would simply start dating girls, but I'm definitely not about to go and do that.

 

[Wtrain]

All these young gay guys going after old gays guys ......... and here I am a 21 year old, alone and looking for a serious relationship with someone my own age......

 

[Willie Boy]

Oh your bi...so you opinion doesnt matter anyway, good to know!

Son, you are truly an idiot and a bigot. So sad that you are destined to be so unhappy for the rest of your life because of it. Think about it. While you are a child, you insist that 18-25 year olds are wrong to date older men because others their own age don't have anybody (or is this a line you use because your attitude keeps you from finding someone), but what happens if you grow up? Are you going to insist that older men need to stay in their age group when dating? They all STILL will NOT want you, your only chance will be with some naive fresh young man (but that won't last long because he'll soon come to be repulsed by your attitude!).

 

[Aratron]

All these young gay guys going after old gays guys ......... and here I am a 21 year old, alone and looking for a serious relationship with someone my own age......

..........

 

[najfus]

And why the FUCK should I care if my relationship is viewed upon as strange by society. If they don't accept me for who I am and what I'm attracted to, fuck them. If I really wanted to be accepted by heterosexuals, I would simply start dating girls, but I'm definitely not about to go and do that.

I wouldn't have stated it like this but, exactly. I'm perplexed that gay men are arguing for heterosexual approval and assimilation- no thanks.

This thread topic is pathetic and is blatant ageism, naivety, and overall ignorance. I guess I might as well state that this is coming from a twenty year old who is generally interested in men around my own age. Stop concerning yourself with the relationships of others; perhaps you should focus on creating your own.

 

[gdude30]

Okay Luka after reading your posts and all the other posts I am begining to understand your point more.

I think most of what you are saying is frustration.

You are probably thinking, "Darn all these hot young guys are going with these older guys. There is something wrong with them for not being attracted to guys around my age. I hate guys 30+ for stealing guys my age."

I don't see a point in getting mad, cursing, or insulting you because it doesn't appear to have any affect.

*JUBBERS USED FLAME*
*It's not very effective*

I have the same frustration with older guys. But I don't hate them and go, "DARN YOU OLDER GUYS FOR LIKING GUYS YOUR OWN AGE. HOW DARE YOU"

People like what they like. Can't change that fact. The truth is there is pyschology involved in sex to begin with. There probably is with the younger older then but how do you know it's lack of a father or something to do with the father. You don't. Every case varies.

Also older guys who like younger guys aren't messed up fucks or perverts. It does sound like your parents beliefs have been absorbed by you. The blindness friendly ignorance you have very much resembles. "Oh gay people are so not right I don't understand it but I'm a nice person and everything. I'm cool I just don't like gays"

You are very close to sounding like that.

I have known tons of older guys who are stable, mature, fun, and I get along with a hell lot better then people my own age.

People my own age: LETS PARTY LIEK A ROCK STAR, DO DRUGS, SMOKE, DRINK, SPEED, BB SECKS, DRAMA, NEEDY, SELFISH, and STUPID.

Not all of them are but ALOT ARE. I can hang out with guys my own age for days and I still don't say much. But it doesn't take long for me to talk and make friends with an older guy. And at both JUB Meet it was great meeting all the old farts. Some of them were really hot too . And the guys there around my age were pretty cool and surprised me. Stable is the word.

S-T-A-B-L-E FIND OUT WHAT IT MEANS TO BE. S-T-A-B-L-E

You have no idea what you are missing. Care to explain why it diddn't go good with the older guys you've been with? Not older guys are saints, wise, mature, or stable. You might have had a bad experience with some or got unlucky and found the troublsome ones.

What you probably don't understand is that certain people can not only see things in you but they can bring it out too. Hanging out with older guys or people I get along with well and feel comfortable with brings out potential. I'm not saying I hang out with older guys just to grow. But it's real different.

Being at a social party with people drinking moderately, laughing, and having a good time talking about all sorts of things.

And going to a party with teenagers jumping up and down, running around drunk, high, and being stupid. And they go, "Naw man talking is boring. Things needs to be loud and chaotic"

It's just the whole damn cocky attitude of some teenagers that I absolutely hate. But I will admit I have made some friends with guys my age who I think are much more developed then others.

And to be honest nothing is really set in stone. There have been 2 guys who I really do like and hell I wouldn't mind exploring things with them if they wanted to. It's not so much, "OMG THEY HAVE ABS, BLONDE HAIR, BLUE EYES, AND LOOK LIKE A PRETTY BOI." One of them is actually Asian. It's because we think alike, have alot in common, very introverted and are somewhat on the same wavelength. And that in itself is an attraction to me.

And then there are some guys my age who I just think look hot as hell.

But yes I love the big ol furry bears with beards and bellies. Or a hairy rugged daddy. I LOVE GUYS 30+. I should make a shirt like that.

And are you kidding? Most of those guys 30+ can damn well get guys their own age. I'm sure the older guys get pissed off that they chase the young'ns. Same goes for me. It's not, "Oh all I can get is a furry fat guy." I can damn well get guys my own age. But I wouldn't give some guys my own age the time of day.

"Hey man, you cool. Wanna mess around"

*walks away*

And there are some older guys who I'd run like hell from and never be around. And being with an older guy doesn't feel like a taboo. It feels right. I sure as hell would love to be in a relationship with an older guy one day. As long as both needs are met. Is it really wrong?

Again.

You say you are a nice guy, cool, and friendly. But when you take off that mask and reveal your cocky and collective ignorance you reveal that you are the one who is at fault.

And yes you did cause alot of commotion. You proud of it?

Were you bored? In some ways.

I think guys who have the cocky ignorance more hateful then the loud ones. You will see some changes over the next few years.

Younger and older relationships in public. You gonna say, "Eww look at them."

You really resemble a straight person's ignorance. It's kind of scary that you don't realize it. Don't base your beliefs off of your parents. Form your own and ask yourself, "Is it really so wrong?"

 

[youngnihilist]

Well wait, so we want the right to get married, equal rights in every way - I agree, fair enough. But bathhouses, classifying gay men like zoo animals (bears, otters, twinks whatnot), outrageous displays like drag and pride, and weird shit like daddy/son 65/18 isn't going to fly well in mainstream, or even liberal US. that's whats holding us back.

maybe some of you want to still be a fringe group which, if that's your thing, whatever. but most of us want to just live normal lives. you know, when you're 18 years old, date another 18 year old. then continue dating guys more or less your age, maybe finally settle down around 25, 30, 35. with a guy +/- 5 years from you. maybe have kids. maybe get married. that's made difficult when the fringe is seen as overly common, which in some casses it is.

 

[Willie Boy]

In the "mainstream" straight world, there are many young ladies who hook up with older men. And also many older women like to have their legal boytoys. Why should the gay community be any different?

 

[CoolguyAT]

In the "mainstream" straight world, there are many young ladies who hook up with older men. And also many older women like to have their legal boytoys. Why should the gay community be any different?

Thank you Willie Boy! I don't understand why some people insist that older/younger relationships are only in gay relationships when there are plenty of heterosexuals who do the same! Maybe people just need to realize that times are changing and accept it.

 

[Luka]

Ok apparently you people are still attacking me without reading my latest posts I dont care anymore read above. i actually have a date with a 34 year old next week to see what happens, so stop with the vicious attacks against me.

 

[gmoney]

I only took the time to read the first page of replies here. That was enough for me.

I have nothing against you're personal preferences regarding age difference and not being attracted to "older guys".

You began this thread seeming to look for answers, then replied with comments like 'gross!'.

I'm 46 years old and have lost quite a bit of whatever physical attractiveness I might have had 20 years ago, but I still meet men that tell me I'm attractive.

I've dated guys my age, as well as guys your age. The difference these days is guys are more interested in me as a person instead of just a fuck.

As for the younger guys I do meet and date. They are the exception to the rule as for being young, immature, and shallow.

It seems to me, you base your preference solely on physical appearance. I find that quite sad. You're missing out on so many potentially great guys out there just because of being shallow yourself.

Edit: I just read your above post. Good for you! I hope you have a great date. You just might surprise yourself!

Let us know how it goes, please.

 

[youngnihilist]

It exists in the straight world but not to such a huge degree. I mean I feel like I'm practically in the minority being a young gay guy who doesn't sleep guys more than 5 years older than me. Even Luka has "fallen" !

How many 18 year old or 23 year old straight guys are sleeping with women in their 30s and 40s or 50s or 60s? Or young girls with similarly older men. Sure, some, but percentagewise its a tiny minority.

Oh well, nothing I can do about it. I guess being gay and getting old isn't that bad is it? Some gays have talked about how great it is to be young, but it seems like old guys are getting all the action. So no more need for anymore self pity whining that you all are old and therefore irrevelant in life. A 45 year old straight bear like guy isn't going to be landing much young pussy without a fat wallet, but when gays get old we can grow a beard, pack on the pounds, sit on the couch, and be considered sexy to young studs as a "daddy" (without, of course, ever having acquired the necessary skills to actually raise a child)! Not only that, but we get to fulfill our egocentric sadistic immature tendencies by becoming "dominant" and "protective"! How cool is that!

 

[Willie Boy]

It exists in the straight world but not to such a huge degree. I mean I feel like I'm practically in the minority being a young gay guy who doesn't sleep guys more than 5 years older than me. Even Luka has "fallen" !

How many 18 year old or 23 year old straight guys are sleeping with women in their 30s and 40s or 50s or 60s? Or young girls with similarly older men. Sure, some, but percentagewise its a tiny minority.

Oh well, nothing I can do about it. I guess being gay and getting old isn't that bad is it? Some gays have talked about how great it is to be young, but it seems like old guys are getting all the action. So no more need for anymore self pity whining that you all are old and therefore irrevelant in life. A 45 year old straight bear like guy isn't going to be landing much young pussy without a fat wallet, but when gays get old we can grow a beard, pack on the pounds, sit on the couch, and be considered sexy to young studs as a "daddy" (without, of course, ever having acquired the necessary skills to actually raise a child)! Not only that, but we get to fulfill our egocentric sadistic immature tendencies by becoming "dominant" and "protective"! How cool is that!

Last I heard, the percentage was at least 35% That is far from a minority (needing a small 15% to be equal!). And that isn't including those who are cheating on a spouse, most often with a younger counterpart.

 

[youngnihilist]

100% of statistics are inaccurate

 

[Willie Boy]

Only because most people don't admit the truth in such a situation. They tend to lie toward the conservative, which would only increase the percentage fro 35 to maybe 38-45ish or even more. The point is, its far more commonplace than anybody (yourself included) wants to admit. So they all keep lying about it, not wanting to be in the minority, like some closeted gays that are afraid to come out for that very reason (nothing wrong with that, mind you). But in the end, everybody needs to be true to him/herself. Anything less leads to disaster and pain.

 

[youngnihilist]

I've known the sexual practices of hundreds of straight young men and women, and hardly any go for more than 5 years older. Granted, i'm sure some have and just aren't telling me, but take a random sample of 100 20 year old straught guys, and 100 20 year old gay guys, and there will be far more gay guys who have had an intergenerational gap.

I don't know where this 35% number comes from and if what it refers to - what was the question? "Have you fucked someone old enough to be your dad?" or was it "have you dated outside your age range +/-5 years?". Statistics are useless unless backed by link from a reputable source anyway. The fact is far more gay boys are looking for a daddy than straight boys looking for a mommy. I can't prove that, but go on any gay personals site and compare it to a straight one and there ya go

 

[Luka]

Well, Im out of this thread have fun Drama Queens Peace out