Age Difference

[Luka]

And Luka, do not blame older guys for you not getting any. The fault very well could be your own...

Actually I get plenty, its seeing my friends going out with older guys that has risen this hatred inside of me.


EVERYONE here is pretty much missing my point, so whatever.

 

[hotatlboi]

Actually I get plenty, its seeing my friends going out with older guys that has risen this hatred inside of me.

EVERYONE here is pretty much missing my point, so whatever.

There is no point. You hate seeing other people be happy doing something you just don't find fulfilling? You're incredibly judgmental and narrow minded.

You have the same intolerance a lot of straight people have toward gays in general.

 

[hotatlboi]

1- Obviously you care what others think, or you would not have posted this. Obviously an attention ploy.

ding ding ding, and we have a winner.

Sweet this is the biggest thread ive ever started, MUAHAHAHA

 

[Luka]

There is no point. You hate seeing other people be happy doing something you just don't find fulfilling? You're incredibly judgmental and narrow minded.

You have the same intolerance a lot of straight people have toward gays in general.

I am not narrow minded at all really, this is just my opinion and yes I am trying to force it on other people.

Think of this: If you are 35 now and going out with a 20 year old, theres a 15 year difference, so when you were 20 he was 5! so....if you think it that way you like little boys....thats how i see it, maybe people will get my point now i was trying to avoid this but o well.

 

[snoopydog]

The term partner is just a term us gay people stole to name our relationships so they could appear different from straight people, If we didnt make such a big deal about everything maybe they wouldnt see us as so different. See this goes right back to my feelings that younger/old relationships give us a bad name, right along with prancing around like little ferries, and shoving our gayness down everyones throats, having a gay flag, and Gay pride festivals. Thats is why they hate us becasue we need to be the center of attention.

I am listing these things, I do partake in some of them, but I'm just saying thats why they hate us so much and dont was us to have rights.

I don't wave flags or protest. At work, I'm out to a very, very select few. As for age difference, it happens with straight people as well, so this is nothing that should cause a problem.

During the 1960's, MLK was the center of attention. I think he did very well, and his actions affected real change in this country.

Thank you, though, for waving your flag to support us.

 

[hotatlboi]

I am not narrow minded at all really, this is just my opinion and yes I am trying to force it on other people.

I love how you don't find those two things contradictory, LOL

 

[Luka]

I love how you don't find those two things contradictory, LOL

Its sad you are one of the young guys who have been brainwashed.....

 

[hotatlboi]

Its sad you are one of the young guys who have been brainwashed.....

Huh? What does my view on the subject have to do with your ridiculously contradictory statement that I quoted? Anyway I've already said that I generally prefer younger guys as well in this thread. But I find your dismissively judgmental view of the issue to be incredibly closed minded and naive.

If a young guy and an older guy like each other, who are you to tell them that kind of relationship is wrong? You're no one, and you have no right to do so anymore than someone else has a right to tell you that being gay is wrong.

Also the fact that you can't even recognize the flaws in your own argument shows how poorly formed it is.

 

[Aratron]

2. I do actually view this as a numbers game, younger guys should not be hanging out with older guys at all, there is definetley something messed up in the younger guys heads who like older guys...

I think it's the other way around, you're the one who's messed up

 

[Luka]

If a young guy and an older guy like each other, who are you to tell them that kind of relationship is wrong? You're no one, and you have no right to do so anymore than someone else has a right to tell you that being gay is wrong.
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well then i am just like the straight people telling em being gay is wrong, thats fine, nothing will change my opinion, dont go out with people more than 8 years age difference, that all im saying.

 

[treanir]

I am not narrow minded at all really, this is just my opinion and yes I am trying to force it on other people.

Worst reasoning I've seen in a while. Do you honestly not see your own hypocrisy here?

If a person tells you that you being gay is gross and wrong, do you accept that and say 'you know, you're right, I'm going after some hot pussy'? Because believe it or not, you are doing the same thing now - trying to dictate other people's sexual preference. In addition, you hate bisexuals - you've shown that above.

You are the most narrow-minded person I have come across in a long time. And that is sad.

 

[hotatlboi]

well then i am just like the straight people telling em being gay is wrong, thats fine, nothing will change my opinion, dont go out with people more than 8 years age difference, that all im saying.

why 8 years? why not 7 or 9? Don't you see how stupidly arbitrary your viewpoint is?

No one is saying that you can't express your opinion on who you would go out with. But what you are doing is basically insulting anyone who doesn't share your opinion by saying something would have to be wrong with them if they don't. It's the absurdity of that which you need to recognize.

 

[Luka]

Worst reasoning I've seen in a while. Do you honestly not see your own hypocrisy here?

If a person tells you that you being gay is gross and wrong, do you accept that and say 'you know, you're right, I'm going after some hot pussy'? Because believe it or not, you are doing the same thing now - trying to dictate other people's sexual preference. In addition, you hate bisexuals - you've shown that above.

You are the most narrow-minded person I have come across in a long time. And that is sad.

Ok yes I am not a fan of Bisexuals, because they will always want pussy no matter what. And eventually cheat on you.

why 8 years? why not 7 or 9? Don't you see how stupidly arbitrary your viewpoint is?

No one is saying that you can't express your opinion on who you would go out with. But what you are doing is basically insulting anyone who doesn't share your opinion by saying something would have to be wrong with them if they don't. It's the absurdity of that which you need to recognize.

Yes I am insulting them, and feel bad about it now.






OK, so as Iv'e been discussing this with you guys (aka arguing) I see what you are all saying. I have been very straight forward and gotten the responses I thought I would get.

I suppose age difference is fine, but I personally wouldnt do it, and I dont like seeing it, but I will stop bashing people bacuase I really am not a bad person and dont want you guys to hate me for being critical.

Go ahead and go out with old men young guys, its fine, I mean if you want a second Dad go for it!

 

[Luka]

Maybe it's not the daddy quality they are seeking, it's the hotness of the particular guy.

you come across as only going after looks.

 

[treanir]

I suppose age difference is fine, but I personally wouldnt do it, and I dont like seeing it, but I will stop bashing people bacuase I really am not a bad person and dont want you guys to hate me for being critical.

Go ahead and go out with old men young guys, its fine, I mean if you want a second Dad go for it!

Being critical's an excellent quality. In fact it's one of the few things a guy must have before I can get really interested in him! You weren't displaying a critical mind, you were showing a narrow one, and that's why people reacted so strongly. I'm glad you see the point now. Any relationship between consenting adults is fine, no matter the age difference.

Just keep remembering that a critical mind does not mean you close off to everything not your own opinion. The best feature of independent thinking is to be open-minded and allow your own opinions to be challenged, too.


(the bisexual thing...... whole nother topic)

 

[Luka]

Being critical's an excellent quality. In fact it's one of the few things a guy must have before I can get really interested in him! You weren't displaying a critical mind, you were showing a narrow one, and that's why people reacted so strongly. I'm glad you see the point now. Any relationship between consenting adults is fine, no matter the age difference.

Just keep remembering that a critical mind does not mean you close off to everything not your own opinion. The best feature of independent thinking is to be open-minded and allow your own opinions to be challenged, too.


(the bisexual thing...... whole nother topic)

haha thanks you have probly been the nicest one to me on this thread, i acan admit I am quite new to this whole gay thing, and am still learning things, and i am glad is tarted this forum, becuase it has made me realise how close minded i am.


And also yea the Bi thing blah haha

 

[Ringfinger]

2. I do actually view this as a numbers game, younger guys should not be hanging out with older guys at all, there is definetley something messed up in the younger guys heads who like older guys...must have been something that happened to them as a child?

3. If you fall in Love with someone much older, you must be trying to fill the oid of either not having a father, or having a father who disowns you becuase you are gay, thats ll I can think of as to why you would want someone from a completley different generation.

Nothing happened. No lost father. No child abuse. No void that needs to be filled.

I fall in love with people I am attracted to.

That's about it.

 

[CoolguyAT]

OK attention people who hate me for my opinion:

2. I do actually view this as a numbers game, younger guys should not be hanging out with older guys at all, there is definetley something messed up in the younger guys heads who like older guys...must have been something that happened to them as a child?

So not only can younger guys not date older men but they can't hang out with them either??? I have friends who are in their 30s, 40s, and 50s and get along with them just fine, in fact even better than some people my own age. I am also dating a couple of guys, one of which is 50 and the other is 53. What does my childhood have to do with that? Also, one of my best friends is a female who is 42, is that wrong to?

3. If you fall in Love with someone much older, you must be trying to fill the oid of either not having a father, or having a father who disowns you becuase you are gay, thats ll I can think of as to why you would want someone from a completley different generation.

I have a father and while we had some minor issues when I was growing up it was certainly nothing out of the ordinary, just the normal father-son disagreements. My father has not disowned me at all and is very supportive of the fact that I am a gay man, in fact he met one of the guys I was dating when he was visiting me about a month ago. I thought for sure my Dad would give me a hard time considering that my guy is only three weeks older than my Dad. In fact, the opposite happened, my Dad was very supportive and has even asked him about a couple of times since.

6. This is one reason people don't like gay's becasue older guys are trying to get younger ones and the parents end up hating their children becasue of it and tell everyone else about it which spreads the hate. So yes it is partially old/younger relationships which casue the hate towards gays.

So what do these people say when older men date younger women or when older women date younger men? Sorry to burst your bubble but the age gap is seen in heterosexual relationships as well. What is the big deal? As gay men we don't have the same advantage as straight women do in finding a partner. There is a significant higher percentage of men who are straight than gay. If two individuals who happen to be 20 years or so apart are into each other who the fuck cares? Maybe you need to rethink your attitude and stop blaming older men for taking younger guys.

Need I also mention that it was ME who pursued the two men i'm dating right now, yeah the ones in their early 50s that you call disgusting.

 

[youngnihilist]

I'm not as judgmental but I just see so much hypocrisy and danger in the young/old relationships. It's not going to get us any acceptance from the heterosexuals, who don't really have that issue (unless the old guy got deep pockets).

 

[csrt8089]

I don't thinks it's right or fair to judge other people's relationships. Everyone gets pissed when they're judged or discriminated against for being gay and i would guess most people here know how that feels, so why inflict any sort of judgment on someone else. If two people are happy and in love with each other, who are we to say anything against that...?