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Age restrictions: for sex, dating, friends

I'm not sure I can agree with this. Perhaps we should establish just exactly what these life experiences are. What sort of things does a person have to go through for you to be able to see them as a potential partner? You mentioned above that part of it has to do with relationship experience, but if a person is the same age as you and hasn't had a lot of experience with relationships, is that a deal breaker too? Or is it just assumed that because they're older they'll have an intuitive understanding of how to make a relationship work?

It's a dealbreaker as well. I met someone my age recently who is the same age but has never dated. Great guy, but not interested.

Also, I can't help but wonder why it would be a turn off for a young person to know what he wants. If the purpose of exploration is discovery and there's not much to be discovered in that area, I'd imagine that they're simply a 'step ahead' and would think it'd be more of a turn on than anything else. It seems that perhaps you're stuck on the idea that people are supposed to be doing certain things at certain ages, but that's just not the way life works. We have a tendency to project our younger selves onto others, but different people develop at different rates, they view the world in different ways, and they respond differently to the experiences they have. It's not fair for you to suggest that a younger person should be exploring what he wants if it's something he already knows. If you're both ready to settle down in a relationship and both know what you want, why is his age even relevant?
I've met too many young people who have been "mature for my age" or claim they know what they want. Of course they think that way. I'm sure I thought that way as well. However, I had a lot to learn and a lot to discover. I'm a totally different person now than I was at 21 and I expect the same of most people. There is so much physical and emotional growth that occurs between the ages of 18 and the early to mid-20s that (1) I doubt that person is done changing in that sense and knows what they want and (2) If you are done growing emotionally that early, it's a red flag for me or it says you're not someone who is interested in growing and changing which is a red flag in itself.

If young people being immature and not knowing what they want is a turn off, but being mature and knowing what they want is a turn off too, how can they possibly win? Why say all of this stuff about relatability, who a person is, how they behave, or their maturity level if all of it is invalidated by the number on their birth certificate?

I'm open to it, but I still haven't met anyone that fits the bill. The combination of qualities I'm looking for personally is just rare to non-existent in that age range but I'm not closed forever to considering younger.
 
I don't "do" restrictions for friends. As for dating and relationships...be legal, and I'll work with you as an individual.


threads like this remind me why there are so many perpertually single people.

And that's fine--just don't bitch to me about it.
 
....threads like this remind me why there are so many perpetually single people. ....

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I was foolish enough to date with a very handsome guy who had been screwed up by the Catholic Church. He had restrictions on age, height, food, conversation, hobbies, sex, etc, etc.
 
I don't have any age restrictions for friends.

For dating, I may have a slight preference for someone within 10 years of my age (and they have to be legal too of course) but I wouldn't turn anyone away just because of their numbah. If we share common interests, interesting differences, reasonable expectations, and worthwhile challenges, then I could make it work with anyone. All comers are welcome to apply.

For sex, if you're legal and you catch me in the right mood...
 
Looks to some extent still matter as you age but far less than in your "youth". How many straight couples leave their SO after the spouse "lets themselves go". They basically devolve from a couple into "roommates". An emotional bond may keep them together but there is very little attraction.

But this post seems to imply the inverse: that a couple that's been together 5 or 10 or 20 years can stay together just because they find each other hot.

I don't believe it really works that way. I think young or inexperienced people tend to almost completely think it works that way. But after you've lived with someone for years, there just is no "you walk into the room and your heart completely stops when you see them", no matter what they look like. You can get used to anything, and if there aren't a lot of other things falling into place to keep that relationship interesting, functional and attractive to both of you, the looks alone really do almost nothing for you a few years into a relationship. You're no longer looking at them and undergoing some immediate hormonal reaction, any reaction you have is informed by a lot of other influences-- how you feel about them, how your mood is, how your relationship with them has been lately.

The looks "really really really do matter" thing is hardly rare, it underlies people's fixation with things like celebrity couples, where fans simply can't understand how they ever break up... "how could you leave him/her?! They're so hot!!" A hot person can be plenty ugly to you 3 years into a dead or bad relationship.
 
It's a dealbreaker as well. I met someone my age recently who is the same age but has never dated. Great guy, but not interested.


I've met too many young people who have been "mature for my age" or claim they know what they want. Of course they think that way. I'm sure I thought that way as well. However, I had a lot to learn and a lot to discover. I'm a totally different person now than I was at 21 and I expect the same of most people. There is so much physical and emotional growth that occurs between the ages of 18 and the early to mid-20s that (1) I doubt that person is done changing in that sense and knows what they want and (2) If you are done growing emotionally that early, it's a red flag for me or it says you're not someone who is interested in growing and changing which is a red flag in itself.



I'm open to it, but I still haven't met anyone that fits the bill. The combination of qualities I'm looking for personally is just rare to non-existent in that age range but I'm not closed forever to considering younger.

Why is it a red flag? Because it doesn't meet your expectations for what each age group should be thinking or doing? It seems you've attached preconceptions. If you met a guy you really like, would you suddenly turn him down if you realize you had a huge brain fart and he's actually 22? IMO, that would not be dating a guy, but rather dating an age.
 
It's a dealbreaker as well. I met someone my age recently who is the same age but has never dated. Great guy, but not interested.

To avoid going in circles I'll just respond to this part.

Don't you think that, regardless of their age, it's a little unfair to hold a person's inexperience against them? Why are we to assume that because a person doesn't have much experience when it comes to relationships that they're going to be too much of a hassle to get involved with? What kinds of things do you imagine an inexperienced person doing in a relationship that somebody with more experience wouldn't (or vice versa)? Why do you seem to think you'd have to train somebody on how to love if they'd never been in a serious relationship before?

It honestly feels more like you're hiring a new employee, not searching for somebody to share your life with.

People don't need 5 years of experience to be worthy of your love.
 
Once again I agree with Anders. I just can't wrap my head around the fact that someone can meet a nice guy, get along with him or whatever but then he doesn't meet one of the things listed and it is just like "Oh, sorry not gonna work."
 
Why is it a red flag? Because it doesn't meet your expectations for what each age group should be thinking or doing? It seems you've attached preconceptions. If you met a guy you really like, would you suddenly turn him down if you realize you had a huge brain fart and he's actually 22? IMO, that would not be dating a guy, but rather dating an age.

No, I wouldn't turn a guy down solely based on his age. However, it just always seems to work out that way based on a combination of what I want. Again, these are just my personal preferences and it's based on my experiences, my friend's experiences, and what I've observed. I've met about 6-8 guys in the past 6 months all in this 19-22 age range that are interested in dating me and none are even close to what I'm looking for despite all being nice, attractive men. None of them are settled, none of them have reached a point of emotional maturity and experience I look for, none of them are ready to give up their priority of enjoying themselves, partying etc. Now they're all "mature for my age" and nice guys, but they aren't for me and it would have never worked out. It's not all because of their age obviously but it has a lot to do with it and i"m sure they would have been much more attractive options to me several years down the road.

To avoid going in circles I'll just respond to this part.

Don't you think that, regardless of their age, it's a little unfair to hold a person's inexperience against them? Why are we to assume that because a person doesn't have much experience when it comes to relationships that they're going to be too much of a hassle to get involved with? What kinds of things do you imagine an inexperienced person doing in a relationship that somebody with more experience wouldn't (or vice versa)? Why do you seem to think you'd have to train somebody on how to love if they'd never been in a serious relationship before?

It honestly feels more like you're hiring a new employee, not searching for somebody to share your life with.

People don't need 5 years of experience to be worthy of your love.

Because no one jumps into dating knowing all the ins and outs of a relationship. There's a reason the first one rarely works. There are very basic things we learn about being with another person. There is also the fact that we still have yet to learn what we really want out of one because we have yet to experience it. Some people can hit a home run the first time they get a pitch but it's very rare for a reason.
I'd prefer someone who has browsed around, had his share of successes and mistakes, joys and pains and is ready for something serious but seamless. Would you entrust your car to a mechanic who has never worked on one? Would you get heart surgery by a doctor who has studied it but has never worked in an operating room?

I have a friend who is madly in love with someone he has been together with for 2 years. However, the things he has put up with as his bf learns how to live with someone else, how to always consider someone else, how to communicate feelings, emotions, etc. is something I would have avoided altogether. Emphasis on "I" because this is a personal preference.

Just to clarify, I don't immediately run for the hills as soon as I hear someone's age or their lack of experience. I ask questions, I poke around until my suspicions are confirmed or debunked and so far, I've always been right on the money. I wouldn't mind being proved wrong though.
 
Once again I agree with Anders. I just can't wrap my head around the fact that someone can meet a nice guy, get along with him or whatever but then he doesn't meet one of the things listed and it is just like "Oh, sorry not gonna work."

Look above. That's not how I roll :p
 
I don't get people that make all these restrictions just to be FRIENDS. Maybe that's just me, but I always assumed friends had things in common with you... it makes me mad when guys online go "I'm just looking for FRIENDS(and they always put it in caps) - no fats no fems no whites be around my age have a car and a job and a place". You might as well just get a dog - at least then something will love you(maybe), and you get to choose the dog.

As far as dating and fucking goes, if it's just a hookup, yes, I limit myself age-wise. I mean, If I'm not expecting love, I'll go for exactly what I want at that time. Dating? My last ex was 38, before him was 23, before that the locked up fool is either 29 or 30 now. I don't really follow a pattern - just gotta be interested and attracted.
 
Because no matter how "well adjusted" he is for his age, he has a hell of a lot of learning ahead of him, and I'm not waiting around to discover type of person he'll become when such lessons are learned.

People have a lot to learn in their 20's, 30's 40's, 50's and so on. No matter what age and what you have been through there is a limitless amount of things you could learn through life. Some lessons come later for people than others.

And I dont know how would would even determine these things before even getting to know said person.

The fantasy land is the fact that people think that a guy is gonna magically show up fitting their criteria and when they dont find someone that does they're gonna wonder why. It is because "you" are looking for an easy way to get a boyfriend and dont want to be bothered with the actual work that is involved in getting to know someone and building a relationship with them.
 
I guess I cant really say much about age restrictions as I'm in a pretty huge age distance relationship (me 23, him 60), it works just fine. Personal growth should happen at all ages, not just among the young, in fact I would probably never date someone completely set in their ways!
Sometimes though it does surprise me some of the older guy who are into younger guys. The other day I was with a lover (who is 60 also) and we were talking about our partners and the other people he see's, and to my surprise he was seeing a 16 year old. This kind of threw me off and seemed strange as his a university professor and somewhat well known in the poetry and writing world here and it seemed a bit mad. Then again at 16 I would have jumped into bed with him, so I cannot think so bad of him...
 
Once again I agree with Anders. I just can't wrap my head around the fact that someone can meet a nice guy, get along with him or whatever but then he doesn't meet one of the things listed and it is just like "Oh, sorry not gonna work."

If you refuse to date people outside of a certain set of parameters, you'll create a self-fulfilling prophecy where you never meet guys you're really compatible with who are outside of your parameters.

I have to guess that's what's going on with people who really believe the parameters are essential to compatibility.
 
Because no one jumps into dating knowing all the ins and outs of a relationship. There's a reason the first one rarely works. There are very basic things we learn about being with another person. There is also the fact that we still have yet to learn what we really want out of one because we have yet to experience it. Some people can hit a home run the first time they get a pitch but it's very rare for a reason.

I do agree with what you're saying here, but JUB itself should have made it pretty clear that age is absolutely no indicator of experience level or relationship track record. I agree with you that I would feel a hesitancy about dating a 45 year old who had never been in a relationship before that I wouldn't feel about dating a 30 year old who'd been in four big ones. But that would not be a function of age.
 
People have a lot to learn in their 20's, 30's 40's, 50's and so on. No matter what age and what you have been through there is a limitless amount of things you could learn through life. Some lessons come later for people than others.

And I dont know how would would even determine these things before even getting to know said person.

The fantasy land is the fact that people think that a guy is gonna magically show up fitting their criteria and when they dont find someone that does they're gonna wonder why. It is because "you" are looking for an easy way to get a boyfriend and dont want to be bothered with the actual work that is involved in getting to know someone and building a relationship with them.

I don't think TSL or myself or anyone with our position in this thread is complaining about finding a boyfriend.
Finding a boyfriend is easy. Finding one that works, that suits you well, and fits into your life is the harder part and is well worth it.

And if you think a 17 yo has the same chance of emotional maturity (as far as a relationship) as a 27 yo then we just will never see eye to eye.
 
Okay, so I agree and diagree with many points here and I think the following thought will clarify what I am saying. Age of the person you are attracted to does not matter. I have no limits, other than legal age, but you can meet a 40 yo that just came out. Is he more mature than a 19 yo that has beem out since he was 12? It is all about the individual and sweeping statements about age fall to the way side (should that have been weigh?) when it feels right regardless of age similarities or differences.
 
I don't think TSL or myself or anyone with our position in this thread is complaining about finding a boyfriend.
Finding a boyfriend is easy. Finding one that works, that suits you well, and fits into your life is the harder part and is well worth it.

And if you think a 17 yo has the same chance of emotional maturity (as far as a relationship) as a 27 yo then we just will never see eye to eye.

Probably not, but that doesn't mean said 17 year old can't handle a relationship if the 2 people both wanted it. Relationships can work, regardless of age and if people are willing to give it a chance and work through the things that might pose some challenges later (which there will always be some one way or another).

Also kind of sounds weird that one would be looking for someone to "fit" into their life, that doesn't sound like a relationship. A relationship is both people in each others lives, sharing those lives together.
 
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