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And the Affordable Health Care Exchanges are UP

Kulindahr said:
The only evidence we have says that in a few states there are major problems but that overall it is working as well as any on-line effort of the kind could work right out of the gate. We also know that hundreds of thousands of people have already established accounts and those people are examining the options in front of them.

I've dropped in there nearly two dozen times and have yet to have a single problem, as have many others, so we know the website isn't broken -- and those hundreds of thousands of accounts established prove the same thing.
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Hiding your brain in the sand again.

Here's one of the high priest of liberalism interviewing kitty hat.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...ebelius-on-health-care-law-am-i-a-stupid-man/

The website is a mess -- not ready. Any business in the world would take the site down and have a serious discussion about the validity of the program.

You have no factual basis for making a statement that "We also know that hundreds of thousands of people have already established accounts and those people are examining the options in front of them" because the Administration will not release any information regarding use. Your making stuff up.
 
swerve said:
^The website HAS been broken for me...

I was FINALLY able to actually ESTABLISH my account and peruse options last Sunday...

It APPEARS that the insurance options available to me, as Chuck10x observed, is overpriced and underwhelming...

This doesn't TOTALLY surprise me -- since I live in Georgia -- and they've declare OPEN WARFARE on this legislation...

But it WAS disappointing...

It was QUITE obvious that I'll need to spend MANY hours calculating the math to figure out WHICH plan is BEST suited for me...

Insurance doesn't play on a level playing field -- they hire HUNDREDS of actuaries to formulate plans that will "trick" consumers...

Oh -- and I planned on starting my mathematical work today -- but, for SOME reason, GEORGIA plans are NO LONGER available on the website... ](*,)

:(:(:(
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After having the site down over the weekend -- my understanding is that they are shutting it down again tonight.
 
Jack Springer said:
Hiding your brain in the sand again.

Here's one of the high priest of liberalism interviewing kitty hat.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...ebelius-on-health-care-law-am-i-a-stupid-man/

The website is a mess -- not ready. Any business in the world would take the site down and have a serious discussion about the validity of the program.

You have no factual basis for making a statement that "We also know that hundreds of thousands of people have already established accounts and those people are examining the options in front of them" because the Administration will not release any information regarding use. Your making stuff up.
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Maybe your state is running a crappy unreliable site on purpose in protest of the law.

The site continues to work fine for me.
 
Maybe some state sites are working -- but we are talking about the Obamacare, Democare, ACA, PPACA website.
 
Jack Springer said:
You have no factual basis for making a statement that "We also know that hundreds of thousands of people have already established accounts and those people are examining the options in front of them" because the Administration will not release any information regarding use. Your making stuff up.
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So you're assuming that your own source is lying.

Interesting.
 
swerve said:
It APPEARS that the insurance options available to me, as Chuck10x observed, is overpriced and underwhelming...
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Yes, exactly.

People are not accustomed to pricing insurance plans (especially not without some degree of employer contribution), so it is possible that you would find the pricing even worse without the exchanges. But, these plans are nevertheless expensive, and the coverage is not very good. They are far, far from the universal coverage for every citizen for every disease enjoyed by virtually every other nation in the developed world.


swerve said:
It was QUITE obvious that I'll need to spend MANY hours calculating the math to figure out WHICH plan is BEST suited for me...

Insurance doesn't play on a level playing field -- they hire HUNDREDS of actuaries to formulate plans that will "trick" consumers...
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Yes. Another problem with Obamacare. These are private plans, designed by companies which could not care less about your health. Their interest is in making money. They are therefore deliberately complicated, and designed to conceal many costs. There are surcharges for preexisting conditions and your rates will go up if you get sick. Many diseases are not covered (if you happen to suffer from a disease that insurance companies don't like, you are out of luck - even though you have spent a fortune on insurance).

70% of American bankruptcies occur because someone in the family got sick. Obamacare will not change that. American lives will continue to be destroyed by our national inability to deal with our healthcare problems.

It is well to remember that Obamacare was designed by the Heritage Foundation to benefit businesses, not people. It is better than doing nothing at all, but only slightly. Everyone says that it can be "fixed" in time, but that is not true, of course. We will continue to be stuck with mediocre, expensive health care for the rest of our lives.
 
T-Rexx said:
Yes. Another problem with Obamacare. These are private plans, designed by companies which could not care less about your health. Their interest is in making money. They are therefore deliberately complicated, and designed to conceal many costs. There are surcharges for preexisting conditions and your rates will go up if you get sick. Many diseases are not covered (if you happen to suffer from a disease that insurance companies don't like, you are out of luck - even though you have spent a fortune on insurance).

70% of American bankruptcies occur because someone in the family got sick. Obamacare will not change that. American lives will continue to be destroyed by our national inability to deal with our healthcare problems.

It is well to remember that Obamacare was designed by the Heritage Foundation to benefit businesses, not people. It is better than doing nothing at all, but only slightly. Everyone says that it can be "fixed" in time, but that is not true, of course. We will continue to be stuck with mediocre, expensive health care for the rest of our lives.
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Maybe, maybe not. The fact that most people will be getting insurance they can't afford to use will keep the complaint stream at flood stage.

We can hope that this will lead Republicans to actually introduce some market-based remedies (e.g. more medical schools, immediate-care clinics, not-for-profit fraternal benefit companies), but with the Tea Partites in the mix nothing is going to pass that any significant number of Democrats like.
 
Jack: are you covered by a personal health care plan or through work or do you have none?

A follow up on your ONLY useful post IMO in this thread


Jack Springer said:
I want to see what it offers. I'm curious. Aren't you curious about things? I want to see the pricing and what is covered. I want to compare.
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xbuzzerx said:
Cause your interpersonal commentary is on topic?
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You are right ...I need to pm about that and so should kuli. Scuse me for playing mod I guess!

Returning to on-topic

Wash site is UP and mostly functional as of today. personally, since I only need insurance until 01 june 2014 (returning to Canada then) it maybe tough to see how to enroll to get enhancements over the temp that I have..

But, I am interested in Jack's personal health insurance story and hopefully we can get some colour on that...
 
White Eagle said:
I heard 5million people went there and registered. That alone says people like the law.
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Like may be a strong word since compliance is involved...that's an amazing number though!

Maybe Like through the obamacare FB page would be more of an indication?

What's the enrollment like around CC?
 
cgymike said:
Jack: are you covered by a personal health care plan or through work or do you have none?

A follow up on your ONLY useful post IMO in this thread


Jack Springer said:
I want to see what it offers. I'm curious. Aren't you curious about things? I want to see the pricing and what is covered. I want to compare.
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Aren't you curious about the pricing and coverage? There's no way for me to know at this time. The site does not work. I'm a consumer like you -- I want to make the best decisions on how I spend my money.

At some time I hope the site works and I'll be able to look without giving them my personal information while I shop.

Wolf Blitzer even says that the law should be delayed.

 
^Yes I am curious about pricing and duration of coverage and if they have a temp insurance for non-citizens like myself. From my naïve standpoint it's still a good idea to get coverage to more people than less. I don't know about legal aspects. I asked you for your personal view on this taking into account you personal insurance situation. So once again...are you coved at work or do you take out private insurance already? Or...

See what I'm asking. I don't know you...I have no input into your posting history here just asking as of now and in the now.

Is it so difficult for you to answer my question. I'm not asking for you social insurance number or what have you.
 
Members are not required to answer personal questions.
 
^In that case the request is withdrawn. My participation in this thread is also concluded.
 
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