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Ask The Pornographer - 2016 Edition

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You really need to stop.

Responding to your nonsense? Maybe. but it's fun.


Say whatever you want to protect whoever but just know that those very same people are quite narcissistic where they love the attention where they air themselves out.

For example, your boy Dallas Steele just got ass implants because he tweeted about that shit. Lol.

I can't even figure out what your point is here.

You really need to stop trying to play reverse psychology on me. It's not going to work. You need to pull that on someone who is naive or doesn't know too much.

Again... you have never been on the set of a gay porn movie and you DO NOT "know too much."

You should actually blame yourself to be honest because there were some things you said about how porn isn't what it's made out to be where I pretty much nowadays can't take it seriously. I can't even get off to that anymore now. Lol.

Like I said... you need therapy.


Can understand why it seems so uninspired and wack. You work behind the camera. You damn well know that the industry that you work on that the very same guys you are filming and doing your karaoke songs with in your car will only be around for 2 to 3, 5 the most before they are considered old and unmarketable. Once they retire, you probably don't even talk or deal with those guys again as they are gone and forgotten and are on to working with other people. Porn is a job. Not a career. You know this.

Um...ok?... yes, porn is a job, not a career. I've never said anything any different. The vast majority of my best guys have "real jobs" and actual careers and are just making porn for fun. Yes, most guys are only making porn for a few years tops. I'm not sure why you think it's bad.

You bring up the car singalong videos (that you've clearly watched and enjoyed)... those are just fun. What is your issue with us having fun? I mean, why does that upset you?


Me personally, porn is cool and sex work is whatever but I do have a problem with this idea that we as gay people who to use that and sex as a guide to live life. You know how many guys I've seen on that shit. Being gay is being attracted to the same sex. Now in terms of sex, however someone chooses to express themselves that's on them. Just don't try to say indecency and being inappropriate has to do with being gay like how some guys do taking that porn shit way too seriously.



OK please explain to me how.... you seem to read every porn blog you can get your eyes on, you sure watch a lot of porn, you've watched my car singalong videos... you're VERY upset that these guys are making porn for fun on the side. And I'm not really sure why.

which is why you need therapy.
 
I mean, we make a "making of" feature for all of our movies now because the fans love them. They're released to the website.

It doesn't have boring stuff like me ordering condoms from Amazon, but it does have us shooting, Out takes, us talking about how to shoot things, light things and that kind of thing. They have lots of funny clips of my fat ass trying to show the guys how to pose.

For instance:


Jasun - thank you for this :gogirl: I have to say you really sound like a professional portrait photographer with all the directions about lowering shoulders and turning the body towards one direction or another. But, you really are a professional photographer - you just do the photography in a porn setting. Which, IMO, just makes it a more everyday occurrence :=D:
 
Jasun - thank you for this :gogirl: I have to say you really sound like a professional portrait photographer with all the directions about lowering shoulders and turning the body towards one direction or another. But, you really are a professional photographer - you just do the photography in a porn setting. Which, IMO, just makes it a more everyday occurrence :=D:

:) Thanks I have a lot of fun doing that.

I actually do regular portrait pictures, too. But not that often, sadly. Wish I got more of a chance
 
Okay this question might sound odd, is there an assistant who cleans up the poop after an anal sex scene? Does it get smelly on set? I watched a video with Davey Wavey and Trenton Ducati and he said shit on the dick is an issue in gay porn. So does the bottom have to starve himself and do an enema in order to be clean for a bottom scene?

sorry I should try to answer these a bit more directly...

No, there is no person whose specific job is cleaning up after a code brown. It's a pretty rare thing, but if there's a stain... we just deal with it. Sometimes I'll get a bit of splatter on my camera if I'm doing an under-shot. If that happens... you deal with it. If that upsets you, you have the wrong job.

It does NOT get smelly on set. Honestly, as long as the bottom has properly cleaned out, it's a rare thing.

If someone is getting shit on their dick... they need to have their bottom clean out a bit better.

Of COURSE a bottom needs to use an enema or a shower shot to clean out... that's something they have to do to start AND they have to keep touching up all day if it's a long shoot. Starve themselves? No, not necessarily and it's a bad idea... my shoots are long and if they're not eating they're going to lose energy. But yeah, don't say... eat tacos.
 
refujiunderground said:
Porn actors.

I doubt that a majority of those guys even enjoy the sex that they portray on camera. They look like they are in pain and their dicks stay limp.
Well, and we're back to "you're talking about gay for pay sites and not the porn I make." The guys I shoot ARE having fun, and often are fuck buddies in real life.

So again... you don't really know what you're talking about, you're just opening and up-ending your personal baggage on JUB.
Well, the refuji's original question is asking you for a broad opinion of the industry but you're having to answer based upon your personal work experience.

You've made some choices that the other studios haven't made and you've had the power at those studios to make those choices. Not every studio is using gay performers, particularly more mature (mature in years, as well as in behavior) gay performers. That's not a criticism- just an observation.

In both refuji's broad statement and your response, there's not really a resolution. Sebastian Young and Dirk Caber are both working in the same industry... but for completely different motivations and with completely different personal lives. If one uses Young as the standard, then all performers in the industry are trainwrecks who work between periods of incarceration. If you use Caber as the standard, then all performers would be intelligent, creative people who can speak and write in complete sentences. Neither performer is an adequate representation of an industry with thousands of performers in it.

The industry has changed as the performers have become increasingly gay-for-pay. G4P is the double-edged sword. On one hand, the studios that use G4P models say that there's less drama on the set (whatever that means?) but when you look at the personal lives of G4P models, there's plenty of drama. But it's chicken or egg- were those dramas what led them to do G4P or is the G4P just another in a series of bad decisions?
 
I mean, some of the best guys I've worked with were G4P. Like Ricky decker and Jeremy Bilding. Zeb Atlas. Bo Dean.

Some of the biggest train wrecks are gay. I won't name names.

I think his original question to me was meant as a set up... Which is why I haven't really bothered answering it directly. He just wants to get me to say that "yes, porn stars are great role models," so he can list off the G4P ones that are often mentioned on the gossip blogs he reads.

It's like me asking "are military personnel good role models" so I can list off the ones who went to jail for rape as a way of smearing all former marines.

For the most part... If you have shame about your sexuality and you see gay porn stars living a proud and open life wth no shame and it can give you some pride in your life... Sure.

One of my favorite letters I got from a viewer was that he was depressed and suicidal becuase he was gay and lived in a remote area with no gay people. He saw one of those jerk off races I did for Fratpad and told me that it changed his whole view of himself. He knew that somewhere, one day he'd be able to find a place where instead of guys calling him "faggot," they'd stand around and cheer for him.

That email wasn't unique, either. I hear often that gay guys felt that they couldn't be the men they wanted to be until they started to follow a few porn stars on Facebook and Twitter and saw smart, politically active, creative, thoughtful people with full lives and great friends and most of all... Happy.

No, if you just use the g4p guys who are always in jail or the gay ones who post videos of themselves melting down on meth... That's not a good role model. If you look to guys like Adam Ramzi, Jesse and Dirk, Conner Habib, Dale Cooper, Alex Graham, Alex Mecum, Bruce Beckham.... Hey... Even your old buddy Jasun... You're going to see people who have managed to make life work for them.
 
Having seen Jasun for the first time, I just want to say he's a pretty sexy guy. Seems like a waste that he's on the opposite side of the camera ;)
 
I mean, some of the best guys I've worked with were G4P. Like Ricky decker and Jeremy Bilding. Zeb Atlas. Bo Dean.
One of those you listed is probably in videos to promote his escorting. One, I'm guessing, has some expensive pharmaceuticals for his hobby that he has to pay for.

Out of curiosity, what's the primary motivation for the others?


No, if you just use the g4p guys who are always in jail or the gay ones who post videos of themselves melting down on meth... That's not a good role model. If you look to guys like Adam Ramzi, Jesse and Dirk, Conner Habib, Dale Cooper, Alex Graham, Alex Mecum, Bruce Beckham.... Hey... Even your old buddy Jasun... You're going to see people who have managed to make life work for them.
Well, we got on the subject connected to bareback vs non-bareback. Most of the performers you listed as...um, not troubled... also seem to work more for studios that still use condom. A couple of the guys on the list left studios when they switched to bareback-only. That's probably not a coincidence.
 
Responding to your nonsense? Maybe. but it's fun.




I can't even figure out what your point is here.



Again... you have never been on the set of a gay porn movie and you DO NOT "know too much."



Like I said... you need therapy.




Um...ok?... yes, porn is a job, not a career. I've never said anything any different. The vast majority of my best guys have "real jobs" and actual careers and are just making porn for fun. Yes, most guys are only making porn for a few years tops. I'm not sure why you think it's bad.

You bring up the car singalong videos (that you've clearly watched and enjoyed)... those are just fun. What is your issue with us having fun? I mean, why does that upset you?






OK please explain to me how.... you seem to read every porn blog you can get your eyes on, you sure watch a lot of porn, you've watched my car singalong videos... you're VERY upset that these guys are making porn for fun on the side. And I'm not really sure why.

which is why you need therapy.

Therapy for being real?

You know what you're problem is. You and some of your coworkers don't know your roles and want to assume other roles that aren't yalls to begin with.

You work for the entertainment industry and so does your coworkers. Porn is supposed to entertain. Not educate. You advising someone to look to entertainers for life advice is misdirecting and miseducating them. Even you told me straight up to not follow anything that I see in porn even though it wasn't in those words some years ago when I had questions out of curiosity from what I've seen in Porn in a different thread.

Now you turn around and are preaching the exact opposite?

I think that's the problem with the gay male community. Folks look towards the wrong people or wrong things for life advice or lessons on how to deal with reality in a world that is a minefield for gay men. What usually happens? People get wake up calls. That illusion of being safe within your own community and trusting your own while it is giving poison to you to mingle with and disguising it as empowerment.

As much as you try to tell me and others that these entertainers are people to follow trying to preserve this status quo of sex workers and porn actors within the gay community being the "cool people" and glamorizing them as some form of a list, popular people who us commoners have to look up to, reality says otherwise. Life is not a porn film or something that is entirely about sex where it's a party or its about looking pretty or placing your entire worth on how many dicks you can get and keep erect with your physique or face. Life is too deep to be based off of superficial and shallow shit. Speaking for myself, I don't have or would not want the privilege of my life being a party where I fuck and have money flying into my hand simply having sex. That's not reality. This whole unrealistic, fantasy bullshit that you and some of these guys seem to promote and mislead many gay men into a state of hopelessness, misery and pain to cope with life is dangerous. That's why I asked that question because no way in hell would I think its okay to follow the blue prints of a damn porn actor. We all have to be entertained and be serious. It's about knowing the difference. That's why I asked you that question because the lines are blurred where you have the entertainment industry geared towards gay men trying to educate while at the same time exploiting and monetarizing in the same breath when it shouldn't even be that.
 
One of those you listed is probably in videos to promote his escorting. One, I'm guessing, has some expensive pharmaceuticals for his hobby that he has to pay for.

Out of curiosity, what's the primary motivation for the others?

Don't know. I'm guessIng the pharmaceuticals for a hobby are Zeb's steroids, but past that dunno. I never asked.





Well, we got on the subject connected to bareback vs non-bareback. Most of the performers you listed as...um, not troubled... also seem to work more for studios that still use condom. A couple of the guys on the list left studios when they switched to bareback-only. That's probably not a coincidence.

Nope. Not a coincidence at all.
 
Therapy for being real?

You know what you're problem is. You and some of your coworkers don't know your roles and want to assume other roles that aren't yalls to begin with.

You work for the entertainment industry and so does your coworkers. Porn is supposed to entertain. Not educate. You advising someone to look to entertainers for life advice is misdirecting and miseducating them. Even you told me straight up to not follow anything that I see in porn even though it wasn't in those words some years ago when I had questions out of curiosity from what I've seen in Porn in a different thread.

Now you turn around and are preaching the exact opposite?

I think that's the problem with the gay male community. Folks look towards the wrong people or wrong things for life advice or lessons on how to deal with reality in a world that is a minefield for gay men. What usually happens? People get wake up calls. That illusion of being safe within your own community and trusting your own while it is giving poison to you to mingle with and disguising it as empowerment.

As much as you try to tell me and others that these entertainers are people to follow trying to preserve this status quo of sex workers and porn actors within the gay community being the "cool people" and glamorizing them as some form of a list, popular people who us commoners have to look up to, reality says otherwise. Life is not a porn film or something that is entirely about sex where it's a party or its about looking pretty or placing your entire worth on how many dicks you can get and keep erect with your physique or face. Life is too deep to be based off of superficial and shallow shit. Speaking for myself, I don't have or would not want the privilege of my life being a party where I fuck and have money flying into my hand simply having sex. That's not reality. This whole unrealistic, fantasy bullshit that you and some of these guys seem to promote and mislead many gay men into a state of hopelessness, misery and pain to cope with life is dangerous. That's why I asked that question because no way in hell would I think its okay to follow the blue prints of a damn porn actor. We all have to be entertained and be serious. It's about knowing the difference. That's why I asked you that question because the lines are blurred where you have the entertainment industry geared towards gay men trying to educate while at the same time exploiting and monetarizing in the same breath when it shouldn't even be that.

Seriously?

This is the hill you've chosen to die on?
 
yeah :) ... so, you were enlightening us on the ins and outs of the industry ? :)
 
Having seen Jasun for the first time, I just want to say he's a pretty sexy guy. Seems like a waste that he's on the opposite side of the camera ;)


I have to agree. I would rather see Jasun than most any of the guys he is shooting.....

They seem like nice guys...but I think he is a lot sexier than most of them..just my personal opinion...
 
I guess if you like your men like you like your pork... salty, meaty and a bit fatty around the middle yet still somehow just a bit sweet.
 
I can't figure out what the fuck he's on about. Crack is whack.

The truth scares liars and fake people. Happy I'm not in your shoes. Some people not tilting their hats is a sign of approval. Im all for sex positivity but within reason. Your job depends on people taking this shit way too seriously which is sad. Hate the idea that porn industry and etc has an influence on real life when it shouldn't and you cosign that horse shit.
 
The truth scares liars and fake people. Happy I'm not in your shoes. Some people not tilting their hats is a sign of approval. Im all for sex positivity but within reason. Your job depends on people taking this shit way too seriously which is sad. Hate the idea that porn industry and etc has an influence on real life when it shouldn't and you cosign that horse shit.

I sincerely don't understand what your problem is or what you're even talking about.

you asked me if it was ok for people to look to porn stars as role models. I have heard from many people who tell me that they felt shame about their sexuality until they saw hot men proudly having sex and saw that gay sex didn't have to be about shame or weakness.

Should porn stars be our ONLY role models? No, of course not. But like I said in my first comment to you... don't blame me that Hollywood seems to be having an issue with giving us positive role models. That's their problem, not ours.

I know that I personally see porn as my salvation... I grew up in a very remote, very conservative and oppressive village in Atlantic Canada in the 80s. I thought all gay men were weak, mentally disturbed, predatory weirdos, cross dressers and freaks. Then I found a gay porn magazine that showed me hot, masculine men having sex and enjoying it. I read the articles in that magazine and saw that they were funny and smart with opinions about music and art and politics. I saw gay men not just sex partners but friends with a community... this saved my life. I knew that somewhere out there I'd find a place where I was appreciated and accepted for being gay.

Now, you may think (incorrectly) that gay porn stars are all "wife beaters" and "pedos" and all those other things... I don't really care. We know nothing about you other than you seem to have some very serious issues with your sexuality and I'm not your therapist.

Yes...anyone who takes ANYTHING from pop culture too seriously needs to maybe look at their own priorities, but again... this is not my fault. but no... my job does NOT depend on people taking it too seriously.

My job depends on gay men and straight women wanting to see hot men fucking. If I can give people a social message along with that... great. If not...I hope they enjoyed the movie.
 
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