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Attack on Canadian Parliament...

Telstra said:
Lucky must muslims don't agree with Islamic state.

Example:
Which part of David Koresh teaching was not Christianity ?
It was more than 100% Christianity but most people don't agree with the teaching.
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What Koresh taught was a very twisted version of Christianity, with a changed definition of God and the Gospel and more. So it wasn't even close to "100% Christianity"; it was a mess with a great deal removed from Christianity and a bunch of stuff added.
 
gsdx said:
Joel Osteen is a Protestant pastor in Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas. I couldn't find anything about him inventing his own version of Christianity. Just because he is television preacher doesn't make him a cultist.
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Osteen is a cultist because he has turned the Gospel into a game ****** The core of his teaching is not from the Bible -- in fact, it's condemned in the Bible! That core boils down to a position that GOd can be bought and if you find what He wants he will make you rich.

gsdx said:
The Jehovah's Witnesses and the Mormons have their won version of Christianity. Are they cults?

No, they are not.
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Yes, they are, because they deny core teachings of Christianity and add a great deal that has nothing to do with Christianity.
 
gsdx said:
Apparently, Bibeau was pissed off because the government wouldn't grant him a passport:
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As it turns out, CBC has learnt that Bibeau not only was denied a Canadian passport, he was also denied a Lybian passport.

The Libyan official said Zehaf-Bibeau was polite but that his demeanour seemed off. They were also concerned that his photos didn't seem to match his appearance, or the photos of him in his Libyan documents.

Officials also questioned why Zehaf-Bibeau's old Libyan passport gave his first name as Abdul but his driver's licence listed him as Michael.
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https://ca.news.yahoo.com/ottawa-shooting-michael-zehaf-bibeau-154420791.html
 
Kulindahr said:
Osteen is a cultist because he has turned the Gospel into a game ****** The core of his teaching is not from the Bible -- in fact, it's condemned in the Bible! That core boils down to a position that GOd can be bought and if you find what He wants he will make you rich.



Yes, they are, because they deny core teachings of Christianity and add a great deal that has nothing to do with Christianity.
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The core teachings of Christianity are so long gone, erased from hunanity, that Christ himself wouldn't even recognise Christianity.
 
Perseids said:
^ I agree.

Sadly, many of the violent outrages that have happened in the news have been first-out-of-the-chute for their perpetrators. Some weren't, but many were.

And, on the inconvenient side, actual terrorism isn't a product of mental illness, but of ideology. People are crashing planes, beheading prisoners, and attacking innocents because they choose a form of warfare that is one of the few options left for revolutionaries and dissidents when the Great Powers maintain militaries that ensure that there can never be a real war.
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True that terrorism is exactly the above.
Trouble is, recruiters are targeting people who are often troubled to start with.
They indoctrinate people who are often already socially isolated and provide them with a cause to take out upon society.

The net effect of westerners who've been recruited so far isn't that much different from kids who shoot up schools or workers who shoot up buildings. The only difference is the focus of their actions has been determined by someone else.
 
Kabluey said:
The net effect of westerners who've been recruited so far isn't that much different from kids who shoot up schools or workers who shoot up buildings. The only difference is the focus of their actions has been determined by someone else.
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Well noted....and for the victims the result is the same.....
 
pat grimshaw said:
http://www.macleans.ca/politics/washington/david-frum-on-the-allure-of-radical-islam-in-canada/

Like other advanced democracies, Canada is a lightly policed society. It is also a society that has imposed on itself extraordinary legal difficulties before dangerous non-citizens can be removed from its territory.


It sounds like my country.
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The dead assailant was born, and bred in Canada...and a citizen of Canada, rendering your above reference meaningless...
 
roadtripboy said:
I saw this tribute on another site this morning.
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I found it to be very moving.
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Bruce MacKinnon, an editorial cartoonist at The Chronicle Herald, is being praised for his editorial cartoon on a day when many are at a loss for words.

His cartoon for Oct. 23 shows the bronze statues from the National War Memorial in Ottawa leaning down to comfort Cpl. Nathan Cirillo, who was shot and killed while standing guard at the memorial and the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier on Wednesday morning.

MacKinnon said he's surprised at the reaction to his work — news publications in the U.S. and the U.K. have asked to use it.

"I'm still really kind of overwhelmed by reaction to this cartoon. Sometimes you just don't know," he told CBC's Mainstreet on Thursday.
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https://ca.news.yahoo.com/bruce-mackinnons-cartoon-poignant-image-155234815.html
 
Kulindahr said:
How about a statue of the guy, permanently "on duty" there?
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Our military are typically very wary of any honour that would single out one soldier for acknowledgement of something that all soldiers do. He was on duty, doing his job. On one hand I love the gesture. He is certainly worth of being cast in bronze, and I wonder if it would some day give some comfort to his son. But if we were able to put the question to Cpl. Cirillo, I think he would recoil in horror; he'd say the honour was already his in being posted to guard the memorial at the heart of the nation's remembrance, and that his membership among the bronze figures of the cenotaph is implied. He's joined those whose service to Canada and to freedom included the sacrifice of their lives, and it is not false humility but a deeply-felt respect for all those who already made that sacrifice which makes me certain that this is the lesson he would have wanted us to teach his son.

There is a well-established means of honouring individual contributions, through the awarding of medals.

Apart from the Silver Cross that will be presented to his next of kin, it isn't clear to me which of those medals would apply. A lot of them have technical requirements that go beyond "we really want to acknowledge him in a special way."

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/remembrance/medals-decorations
 
JohnnyAnger said:
Is it just that in this case the man with mental health issues was a Muslim?
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No, it's not that at all. It could have been anybody. What makes this big news is that it happened in our Capital City, on Parliament Hill, at a War Memorial, and inside the parliament buildings themselves. With that in mind, the attack was against every province and territory, every city and town, and every citizen of Canada. Nathan Cirillo represents every Canadian. Being a Muslim was merely a coincidence.
 
Michael Zehaf-Bibeau wanted to join the new Islamic State whose central aim is Jihad.

 
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