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Being a gay male is a life ruiner. Reddit post.

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People intrigue me no end. I have to go to St. Paul on a regular basis and I drive down a street in a rather old neighborhood that is highly ethnic. Often I will see this tall, very skinny black guy who has every feminine gay affectation a guy could have. He swings his hips so much, I'm surprised he doesn't spin around when he walks. One hand will be on his hip, the other is up and bent at the elbow. He looks like a teapot that way. Sometimes his attire is flamboyant and colorful, sometimes just typical male clothes. One day as I was stopping at a coffee shop, he walked right passed me. I smiled and said hello. He glared at me in what seemed a menacing way and said something that sounded like "whitey". Considering the neighborhood, he must get lots of grief from others, you would think he would welcome a a friendly smile from someone. Obviously he is determined to be his own person but he sure does not seem happy. I hope he has close friendships and support.
 
You're also masculine to my knowledge so you have it easier.

The point about discussing or bringing up possible social intersections isn't to play that rock-paper-scissors 'analysis' bullshit. It's not to sit on one's bottom and go 'Woe is Meeeeee" (tho it's healthy to pencil in a good cry once or twice a year). What learning and discussion is supposed to do is give you the necessary tools to work some of the internalized crap out for yourself so as to try'n not perpetuate it. You're gay and effeminate. I'd also say you've got quite the internalized amount of homophobia going on and that it's your job to deal with that. When you've got multiple people from many walks o'life saying something y'might want to try taking heed. You'll get farther, certainly.

Saying that someone else might have it easier in certain situations by not getting read as effeminate is true, but it also has not much, shall we say, to do on dealing with ones own shit. Which should be the second thing people start doing when they realize that other people have unrealized biases. Logically speaking, once you notice multiple others' asses hanging out in a such repetitive manner it should've occurred to you that you're just as vulnerable to the same social messages.

This is what half-assed learning gets people. No one wants to read the "You're Still Responsible For You" epilogue because they can't get past the "x group tend to have it statistically easier in y situation(s)"
 
I'm not kidding myself.

Some would consider me masculine, some not. I'm definitely cis-gendered. Bring gay is amazing.

I have many problems in life but being gay isn't one of them. :)

It's amazing because you have nothing to complain about. You don't know what I've been through and the trouble I've been through to find happiness in this life I have. I know I sound troubled, but I'm not. I'm again being realistic. Ugh. Never mind, I appreciate your advice.

I need a cigarette, some weed and liquor. Ugh.

To say one might have it easier because of x reason is silly. Just because one might be "masculine" doesn't mean that in the very least. That person is still gay and being open about that leaves that same person up for just the same amount of bullshit that another might experience.

Yes, but masculine guys are usually the kinds of gays straight guys can tolerate and like. They are also the kind of gays, gay men tolerate and like. So it's a double bonus. They can circulate into society in a more normal fashion. Fem guys are constantly made fun of, called tranny, queer, poof, etc. Straights always say, "I like gay guys, but not the feminine ones." Gay men are embarrassed around feminine guys and try to stay away and avoid them. They are the ones you can tell are gay, and they can't masquerade that.

Fem guys can't help they are fem, and masculine guys can't help they are masculine yes. But fem guys have it worse.

Despite all of your insane reasons to support Trump, how can any gay or black man (or especially a gay black man) support a party that despises them? :confused: Is it because you are miserable, so you feel justified in making all other blacks and gays miserable too?

Why do Fox News and the Republican party, in general, seem to hate black people and gay people?

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-Fox-News-and-the-Republican-party-in-general-seem-to-hate-black-people-and-gay-people

It could be. Maybe it is some type of rebellious butterfly effect.

But I am not Republican, and there are other gay and black guys voting for Trump that are not Republican so.


People intrigue me no end. I have to go to St. Paul on a regular basis and I drive down a street in a rather old neighborhood that is highly ethnic. Often I will see this tall, very skinny black guy who has every feminine gay affectation a guy could have. He swings his hips so much, I'm surprised he doesn't spin around when he walks. One hand will be on his hip, the other is up and bent at the elbow. He looks like a teapot that way. Sometimes his attire is flamboyant and colorful, sometimes just typical male clothes. One day as I was stopping at a coffee shop, he walked right passed me. I smiled and said hello. He glared at me in what seemed a menacing way and said something that sounded like "whitey". Considering the neighborhood, he must get lots of grief from others, you would think he would welcome a a friendly smile from someone. Obviously he is determined to be his own person but he sure does not seem happy. I hope he has close friendships and support.

I'm not one of them, but I've noticed a good majority of fem gay black guys (especially in inner city areas) do not date white guys, and only date black guys. So maybe you coming onto him, he wasn't feeling it and reacted that way.

He didn't have to be a bitch and a diva about it, but that's just my assumption and guess as to why he did it.

Again, I'm not one of them. I find all types of guys attractive.

Another possibility, is that so many people give him shit and turmoil, that he just gets used to it, and has a chain reaction towards it, thus his shady and disrespectful attitude came out.

Don't base all fem guys on him though.


The point about discussing or bringing up possible social intersections isn't to play that rock-paper-scissors 'analysis' bullshit. It's not to sit on one's bottom and go 'Woe is Meeeeee" (tho it's healthy to pencil in a good cry once or twice a year). What learning and discussion is supposed to do is give you the necessary tools to work some of the internalized crap out for yourself so as to try'n not perpetuate it. You're gay and effeminate. I'd also say you've got quite the internalized amount of homophobia going on and that it's your job to deal with that. When you've got multiple people from many walks o'life saying something y'might want to try taking heed. You'll get farther, certainly.

Saying that someone else might have it easier in certain situations by not getting read as effeminate is true, but it also has not much, shall we say, to do on dealing with ones own shit. Which should be the second thing people start doing when they realize that other people have unrealized biases. Logically speaking, once you notice multiple others' asses hanging out in a such repetitive manner it should've occurred to you that you're just as vulnerable to the same social messages.

This is what half-assed learning gets people. No one wants to read the "You're Still Responsible For You" epilogue because they can't get past the "x group tend to have it statistically easier in y situation(s)"

Internalized homophobia? No I just need a man, that's what the issue is. Going to go kick it with some straight guys after work and get drunk and high with them, to deal with the pain. They aren't attracted to me, like most gay guys, but at least they are more honest and won't mess with my emotions and I can be more laid back with them.
 
Not to mention once again, people within the community that give you shit.
 
I am going to point out one can wear skirts, ect and still be masculine. Happens all the time, they're just not (usually) men. There's several guys of the masculine persuasion who do that in Philadelphia. Including myself, so you can drop the bullshit "You're masculine, so your skirt-wearing doesn't count." And they're not treated in a nicer manner just because they're masculine in a skirt. When all your shit don't jive, there's always issues. You're incredibly myopic on the topic of femininity, it's accoutrements and who is 'allowed' to be considered feminine and masculine (and what that entails) by anyone else.

You haven't figured out that the only person you can restrict or expand the meaning of femininity to is yourself. You have no say over whether someone else is masculine or feminine enough to count. That you keep missing that knowledge, that's a sad bloody thing.
 
I am going to point out one can wear skirts, ect and still be masculine. Happens all the time, they're just not (usually) men. There's several guys of the masculine persuasion who do that in Philadelphia. Including myself, so you can drop the bullshit "You're masculine, so your skirt-wearing doesn't count." And they're not treated in a nicer manner just because they're masculine in a skirt. When all your shit don't jive, there's always issues. You're incredibly myopic on the topic of femininity, it's accoutrements and who is 'allowed' to be considered feminine and masculine (and what that entails) by anyone else.

You haven't figured out that the only person you can restrict or expand the meaning of femininity to is yourself. You have no say over whether someone else is masculine or feminine enough to count. That you keep missing that knowledge, that's a sad bloody thing.

Tell that to guys on dating apps, dating sites, gay bars, and really the gay male community in itself.

You can wear makeup, female clothes, and be more flamboyant and open with your sexuality and call yourself masculine all you want, but the general consensus of gay men will disagree and find this appalling and a turnoff and you will be placed under the feminine category.

I don't make the rules, I just sadly live by them and document them and try my best to squash them. But I'm only one person.
 
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'Ongoing' means 'continuing'. This thread hasn't been continuing for 4 months.

Nothing new to add except the statement that you're bumping it?
 
I get the sense that everything has already been said that could be on this subject.

Nothing has changed since July.

I'm still a homo.

It hasn't ruined my life. It only makes it richer each day.
 
Fuck no.

Yes straight men get discriminated for things. If they are a racial minority, or have a disability etc. but again, it's natural to be straight, so they'll be alright. You add gay to their list, "oh he's just a faggot, he deserves everything and anything wrong and fail in his life"

If you are a white cisgendered male, you shouldn't be talking any type of shit.



No, I wanted my post read here, so I wrote it here. I don't give a damn about that faggot ass reddit.
I agree the gay male struggle is a REAL ONE. And I don't care what ANYONE SAYS it is harder in this world to be a gay man than to be a lesbian. Most people do not care about lesbianism. Gay men we are seen to be a THREAT to the heterosexual family.
 
Not to mention the smaller selection of guys to date, and how judgmental and perverted this community is.

You can't ask a guy out because he's more than likely straight.

Then you go on all these gay tumblr blogs and these gay men are so perverted, saying shit like they want to give a blowjob to their straight coworker and rim their straight bosses ass? Oh my lord.
 
Being a gay man didn't ruin my life! It's not like I got sent to a Nazi concentration camp and exterminated for it. Luckily, I never got gay bashed or have gotten any std's. Sure, there are horrible people everywhere who will say horrible things, but that's life. I'm sure an obese woman takes more abuse in one day than I will in a lifetime. There are so many advantages to being gay: your family and friends don't nag you about getting married and breeding (well, now they might with marriage legal in the US), gay men are almost always more interesting & fun than straight men, and since we are "outsiders" we get to live life on our terms. Besides, I would never want to be straight. I love women, but pussy is GROSS. Let Trump grab all the pussy he wants, I'm on cloud nine sucking dick!
 
What do you mean "luckily" like you're better than everyone else?

But add gay to that obese man/woman. Then what?

I'd rather be anything but gay. Make me a sideshow freak. Anything but gay. Ugh. It seems you have to be Bel Ami model to have success in the gay world. If you are anything other than that, god help you.

I have practically no family (except for distant relatives who are out of state and I talk to sometimes), and very few offline friends, mainly because I am a black gay male and they don't want to deal with me.

That part about family nagging you about getting married. So you agree when I say we are going to be single forever? How sad.

Yeah there are exceptions, but generally.

To me straight guys aren't as hip or clean with their look or appearance, but they generally keep themselves looking nice. Are less perverse (usually). Would give me a ride home from work if I missed my bus. Would smoke weed with me or drink. They are less judgmental and more open minded. There is no sexual attraction so it's easier to get along with them. The only bad thing about straight men is yes there are some that want nothing to do with gay men, but that's the only down side.

Gay men smell nice and are clean and know how to dress, but they expect everyone else to follow suit on that. If you don't look nice, they aren't hanging with you. Gay men are extremely perverse. Just look at grindr. There would be white collar gay men with a profile picture of very tight briefs, saying that they are at work and would like to play once their shift is over. Smh. Oh my god. All of the gay men I came in contact with, if I wasn't fuckable at some point in our relationship, or if he wasn't sexually attracted to me, he would act shady and not want me around him.
 
I haven't read all the comments, just some parts here and there and the main points of the original post, but I agree it's complicated.

Some people believe homosexuality is a disease. While it's not, it feels like one for many gay people. Not every gay person is lucky enough to find a partner and the right environment. Being gay is a parallel universe that doesn't work well with the conventional one.
 
Who I voted for in the election is none of your business.

But I have told you guys last year that Trump was going to win and nobody believed me.

The main reason people said he wouldn't win and Hillary (Democrat) would, is because America is more open minded now towards LGBT.

Me personally, America has been even more homophobic and racist within the past 10 years or so even more. I think the 90s was when it peaked and everyone was kinda happy. The early 2000s was the end of it. It has really gone wishy washy since then.

So therefore I said I think the Republicans will win as far as politics go, because there are many homophobic and racist people in this country. Not that all Republicans are racist, and that all Democrats aren't racist.

I just feel it's another reason to feel upset about being gay as far as America goes.

Whether you're gay and voted Democrat or Republican.
 
Who I voted for in the election is none of your business.

But I have told you guys last year that Trump was going to win and nobody believed me.

The main reason people said he wouldn't win and Hillary (Democrat) would, is because America is more open minded now towards LGBT.

Me personally, America has been even more homophobic and racist within the past 10 years or so even more. I think the 90s was when it peaked and everyone was kinda happy. The early 2000s was the end of it. It has really gone wishy washy since then.

So therefore I said I think the Republicans will win as far as politics go, because there are many homophobic and racist people in this country. Not that all Republicans are racist, and that all Democrats aren't racist.

I just feel it's another reason to feel upset about being gay as far as America goes.

Whether you're gay and voted Democrat or Republican.

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