Big Brother 13 CBS

[Adrock-JD]

^ Boogie kicked out before even jury. This would be awesome.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

^ Boogie kicked out before even jury. This would be awesome.

Best of all? Janelle will be thrilled and it will make her "Screw you Boogie, I hope you lose!" even more awesome.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

FEEDS BACK. JENN WENT UP AS REPLACEMENT. BOOGIE & FRANK ARE PISSED!

So much awesome bitterness.

Boogie: "I'm gonna eviscerate these people in the Diary Room! They should be scared now!"

LOL! Nobody cares dude. You are so lame. You are SOOOOO lame.

Jenn: "I'm out for blood now."

Ooh! JENN'S out for blood! She's been fucking invisible and dull this whole time, playing like it's an Amy Winehouse-look-a-like contest and not a game of social strategy but now she's mad and out for blood. LMAO.

 

[roadtripboy]

^What Adrock-JD said. I can't stand Boogie

 

[soopadupa]

Boogie: "I'm gonna eviscerate these people in the Diary Room! They should be scared now!"

Oooooh the diary room. Hope there isn't another Boogie lawsuit filed because of his evisceration. LOL

Maybe now Frank won't seem so fake and scripted since he'll hopefully be playing alone.

 

[Adrock-JD]

^ Not alone. Frank has Ted.

They know it's a double eviction week. Something about BB has to instruct them in advance how it will go. Yeah, right.
Frank and Ashley are talking in the hammock. Frank says if he wins, he'll put Dan and Shane or Danielle up.

 

[slipintothefog]

Losing at the jury is the ultimate symbol of you sucking in Survivor and Big Brother. In any other position you can argue that maybe if things played out differently, and you had made it to the end, you might have still won (see also: Janelle's previous games, probably Will and Jordan's second games, Michele Noonan; also Cirie, Kathy O'Brien and others on Survivor). Whereas if you make the finals and still lose like Natalie Martinez, Russell Hantz, et al, it means that, no, they just didn't like you and didn't want to reward you because your social game sucked compared to the other person (which in Boogie's case would be probably anyone left).

So I can see Janelle's point but at the same time I'm happy to have Boogie off my screen prematurely.

 

[joesman]

After Jenn invisible got nominated she has turned into this crazy whacked out hoodlum of a bitch. Sitting with Boogs in the yard on AD she and Boogs are making fun of Shane. They are laughing and snipeing about him being stupid when he took an offer and flew to meet a potential client. "Of course, the guy was gay. He wanted to suck his dick!" she sniggers. "Yeah, yeah. Like he was too stupid to know that," says Boogs. Then she keeps interjecting remarks as Boogs then Frank comes out.

I'm like Shane. Did she think she could go all the way to the end and wi without getting nominated? She is such a worthless piece, that ink stained eyesore.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

Losing at the jury is the ultimate symbol of you sucking in Survivor and Big Brother. In any other position you can argue that maybe if things played out differently, and you had made it to the end, you might have still won (see also: Janelle's previous games, probably Will and Jordan's second games, Michele Noonan; also Cirie, Kathy O'Brien and others on Survivor). Whereas if you make the finals and still lose like Natalie Martinez, Russell Hantz, et al, it means that, no, they just didn't like you and didn't want to reward you because your social game sucked compared to the other person (which in Boogie's case would be probably anyone left).

So I can see Janelle's point but at the same time I'm happy to have Boogie off my screen prematurely.

Exactly. Because for Boogie, this game means so much -- and he really believes it validates his pathetic existence (much like Russell Hantz) -- it's even more personally humiliating for him to go out like this, outplayed in every way by a superior player (Dan), blindsided several times, and unable to even make the jury.

I don't even care who wins now. I'm satisfied for the rest of the season because ever since All Stars I've been waiting for the pleasure of hearing Julie say, "Mike (Boogie), you have been evicted from the Big Brother House."

Oh yeah, and I hope she rubs it in and tells him all about Ian during his eviction interview too. Just to slam one more figurative pie in his horrid face. Live.

 

[diamondstar]

I hope Britney or Danielle win this season. That is all

 

[Sgt Pepper]

Aaand there's an indoor lockdown even though the live show isn't until Thursday. The Quackers are freaking that it's Pandora or some bullshit twist to save Boogie.

I certainly wouldn't put it past Grodner.

 

[joesman]

You mean Grod isn't interested in saving Jenn, the super all star girl rocker with the personality of lead paint already dried?

 

[Sgt Pepper]

Lockdown over. Clearly it was nothing and Britney is still paranoid LOL. Boogie wants to use that paranoia, to make Dani think he has a special power so she'll switch her vote (even Dani isn't that stupid).

 

[Adrock-JD]

Whatever became of that glass cube w/ the question mark on it in the arcade game?

 

[ddrock]

Yeah last night was a great night for feeds. I can't believe Jenn fell for Dani's lies and is rolling with them. The same people that got her nominated. Now I want to see some dissension within the QP cause you know all the lovefest, Nerd Herd routine they were pulling last night is not gonna last, probably not even for a week if Franks goes during double eviction.

 

[slipintothefog]

Natalie was a much better player than Jordan. Jordan got the stupid extra "America's vote" and a lot of people voted personally.

But Big Brother and Survivor are social experiments, not chess games. Being a good strategic player is only beneficial if you have the likability to back it up and get the votes over the person sitting next to you in the end, like Dan did in BB10, and Natalie didn't. She is actually like BB's textbook definition of how "being a good player" doesn't mean anything if you're not liked, since she lost to one of the least strategic winners of any reality show ever just because the jury (and enough of them that America's vote didn't even alter the final outcome!) hated Natalie.

And it wasn't fluke! Jordan would have hands down won BB13 if they didn't get rid of her in the final four. BB's only two-time winner wouldn't even be able to spell strategy, but she was still super likable enough to the other players that they would have voted for her.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

But Big Brother and Survivor are social experiments, not chess games. Being a good strategic player is only beneficial if you have the likability to back it up and get the votes over the person sitting next to you in the end, like Dan did in BB10, and Natalie didn't. She is actually like BB's textbook definition of how "being a good player" doesn't mean anything if you're not liked, since she lost to one of the least strategic winners of any reality show ever just because the jury (and enough of them that America's vote didn't even alter the final outcome!) hated Natalie.

Now you're just trying to turn me on!

 

[slipintothefog]

Yeah, I'm not doubting that Jordan had no strategic game, but leaving her in for so long is a mistake just because she's so non-threatening and well-liked that if she stumbles her way to the end, the person she's up against is fucked for being dumb enough to let her slide that far. Even after the coup, Natalie and Kevin had the option to boot Jordan over the less jury-popular Michele at the F4, but they kept Jordan in and paid for it because she beat them both.

I find Natalie winning against almost anybody that season to be a push because she was not well-liked. Lydia and Michele both HATED her, Jeff and Jordan weren't fans, and despite being allied with her, Jessie never seemed to actually like her as person, since he basically just used her as a puppet for five weeks and then showed his true colors toward her in the end by not voting for her and revealing all of her lies to rest of the jury, further hindering her game.

I mean, yes, there's probably some combination of jurors and finalists where she could have etched out a 4-3 win, but against Jordan with that jury, she lost because of her poor jury management via delusions, nasty attitude and pathological lying rather than anything she did in the game strategy-wise. A better player would either try maneuvering for a better F2 opponent (in Natalie's case, Michele over Jordan, since Michele's social game was worse than Jordan's), mend fences with potential jurors before they're out of the game, or both.

 

[soopadupa]

Ian "like father like son".

 

[falconfan]

Aaand there's an indoor lockdown even though the live show isn't until Thursday. The Quackers are freaking that it's Pandora or some bullshit twist to save Boogie.

I certainly wouldn't put it past Grodner.

Production is doing a run through of the live veto and HOH comps. They need to make sure they fit into the time frame. That's probably what the lockdowns are about.