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Big Brother 21 (Live Feed Spoiler Warning)

RRUGER said:
actuallly......tommy is targeting her and if he wins HOH, she will be BYE BYE.
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Which shows what a bad player Tommy is. She is the only one that Tommy would likely beat in final 2...maybe he could beat Jessica too. He may have a good social game, but the rest of his game sucks. Right now he'll be lucky to slide into the final and settle for 2nd prize, which I doubt will even happen.
 
slipintothefog said:
Unless the endgame falls apart catastrophically (which at this point would be like... Jackson or Tommy winning), I think I'm feeling this as my season ranking:

LEGENDARY: 2, 3, 6
GOOD: 11, 17, 10, 5, 4, CBB2
DECENT / MIXED: 21, 20, 13, 15, CBB1, 18, 8
BAD: 12, 9, 14, 7, 16, 1
WHY DID I WATCH THIS SHIT?: 19

I actually had 21 in the GOOD tier at first until I remembered how bad/frustrating the pre-jury stage was. But altogether the season has recovered from it and I actually want to watch the episodes instead of falling behind and marathoning an entire week like I did for 16/18/19.

Having 17 so high might be kind of a hot take but really the only flaw IMO was Steve winning. That was an iconic set of ladies for me between Vanessa, the twins, Da'vonne, Audrey, Jackie and even Basic Becky and Shellucifer. <3
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Co-sign all of this and I would keep BB21 in the Good tier because the season really has recovered for me. Now watch them cancel the eviction tonight, and Tommy or Nick win HOH so Nick/Tommy/Christie get back together and dominate the end game with Tommy in the best spot just to make me eat those words.
 
Cliff and Jess rarely would have a chance in those endurance comps so you can count them out as physical competitors. This one was for Jackson to win or Tommy or Christie or Nicole. Jackson, boring Jackson and his boring mistress, Holly, are on track to win if someone doesn't get the lead out of their ass.
 
slipintothefog said:
Jackson won HOH so....... are we cancelling our subscription or nah?
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The eviction wasn't canceled so the human booger is gone and it doesn't look like there will be a second return juror, so I'm still good for now dawg.
 
jaysizzles said:
Which shows what a bad player Tommy is. She is the only one that Tommy would likely beat in final 2...maybe he could beat Jessica too. He may have a good social game, but the rest of his game sucks. Right now he'll be lucky to slide into the final and settle for 2nd prize, which I doubt will even happen.
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you never know, i have a suspicion tommy might win this season because all those guys will remeber knowing but him stroking their egos and him balerinaing all around the house

I really hope TOMMY doesnt win or gets 2nd place, what a waste to a season


i am glad nick is gone, funny how he called christie out for her slimy game but his game is far worse
 
I ugly laughed at that and considering it sounded like she was legit hurt from the fall I felt kind of bad about it afterward. lol

I also love this randomly is becoming an online meme and that Oprah's Magazine wrote about it:
 
LOLOLOL I had somehow missed that meme slip.

And don’t feel bad, Jess didn’t really hurt herself. She’s just a gif-generator.
 
Fuck, Jackson nominated Jessica and Christie. Holly Allen, 24, Wyoming, please come collect your man.
 
Once more, with feeling.

Sgt Pepper said:
Also I have no idea why Jackson didn't even consider putting Tommy up against Christie so he can't win the POV and use it on her when JUST LAST WEEK HE WON THE POV AND USED IT ON HER.
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I can only assume Christie is his actual target but she's going to use her manifesting mist somehow to make sure Jackson wastes an HOH taking out Jessica Milagros, she of meme GIFs and Crystal Cox-level challenge ineptitude (except the week she randomly won everything).
 
slipintothefog said:
I can only assume Christie is his actual target
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Believe it or not JESS is his target :rotflmao: but Nicole is working overtime to save Jess and flip the vote even though Jess has been a total cunt to Nicole ever since Kat's eviction and she thinks Christie is the most honest person in the house.

Let's just say there's a LOT they're not showing on the televised episodes this season.
 
TOMMY WON THE VETO

Which means Christie will now survive a FOURTH week in a row on the block


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Jess being the actual target this week is so ridiculous considering the rest of the game consists of three pairs of two. Why are none of them trying to grab her to make on move on the other two pairs???
 
It started Friday night and is far too complex to explain. It started because Holly was spiraling about her zing. Then she got really upset about not being relevant enough & that production has

been telling her she is not funny & boring. She complained that the DR only asks her about Jax, never about her. She feels she is not the woman she wanted to be on TV. She wanted to be portrayed as a strong woman to inspire young girls. She feels like production just cast her to be 1/2 of a showmance. She even cried that Jackson's HOH baskets are catered to his personality, but production just gives her useless crap she does not even like.

She decided to start a talk show to get more camera time.."Holly's Hot Takes".

She whined about some of this to Jackson...throwing in again that the zing brought her back to feeling regretful about getting into the showmance..that she thinks her family & friends think she has wasted her opportunity to have a platform.

He suggested she not start the talk show because it was Friday night. She took it personally..as lack of support for her idea.

Then they got alcohol. Jax shotgunned a beer. Holly got pissed off that it looked bad on her (as a "old buzzard") because it is frat boy behavior. Then everyone was drinking & joking & Jax threatened to tell a few of the others the nickname she has for her vagina. Holly threw a fit and told Jax she was not the type of girl you take home from a bar, etc. Jax did his "shutting down" thing and went upstairs to bed.

She vented to Tommy about things..said Jax was dense..that guys suck.

Then she vented to Christie & Jess about all of the "production disrespects me and I am not relevant in my own right on the TV show" stuff I posted above.

When she went to bed, Jax was sleeping. She tried to wake him up by saying goodnight loudly. When he did not wake up, she did it again with passive-aggressive tone. He slightly woke & mumbled "goodnight". Holly sat & huffed & puffed.

The next morning (Sat) she came downstairs and complained to Cristie that Jax did touch her or kiss her all night.

She made some coffee & gave Jax a mug. She did not like the tone of his "thank you", so she yelled at him (in front of 3 others including Cliff) "You are a f*ckin ----!" (She said it twice more reportedly, but I did not see it.)

That was it for Jax. He gave her the cold shoulder the rest of the day. It is that vibe where he is getting along with everyone in the house really well..laughing and acting like nothing was wrong...but just being civil to Holly.

Holly kept on him until he agreed to talk in the HOH. That is when it went down in a really bad way. Jax feels so beat down by Holly constantly saying she regrets the showmance, that she keeps obsessing over her perception and insinuating he is the reason she is not edited as she desires.

Jax started listing his complaints over & over. He barely let her speak. He told her he wants her to be happy so she needs to move on and get the perception she wants. He will support her no matter what, etc. but he basically tossed her out of the HOH...broke up with her. (It sounds OK typed out, but it was more of a power play.)

She started bawling uncontrollably and begging him not to leave..trying to apologize for her actions.

He said it was too late..damage done..that she humiliated him in front of all his friends & family on national TV. (He likely said this 30 times.)

She kept stuttering while crying..unable to form complete thoughts.

Jax held her and tried to calm her down, but he refused to back down about what she said and how badly she has made him feel.

It was really uncomfortable and gross. It just kept going in circles. Jax would not stop repeating how terrible what she did was...and she had no self respect and would not just leave. She just kept saying he makes her happy, she is just hormonal and sensitive from the zing, that she just lost it and called him a f*cking ---- in a state of blind range..that she does not understand how she lost it...pent up personal frustrations.

Both were being total jerks. Jackson was berating her and refusing to accept her apology. But she was being spineless and whining over & over about the same things. Both needed to just walk away. It did break here & there, but as soon as they were alone, it happened again..on loop. It was really dysfunctional and nothing was really resolved.

There is more detail than what I wrote, but basically Holly was being a self absorbed b*tch in the beginning, but Jax was being passive-aggressive and playing head games by ignoring her due to his ego being bruised. When it came to a head, neither dealt with it well. If he was done with her, there was no need to keep berating her when she was already in full breakdown mode. Holly needed to be more assertive instead of begging him not to end things. Holly also kept bringing it back up when Jackson had moved on. She was trying to force a happy ending when she was not going to get that without at least letting things cool off.
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My added two cents :
Jackson told holly that it seems they are not the best for each other and he is definitely not good for her in the house because “all he is trying to do and has tried to do was to be the best person for her and build her up”. He says he was really trying to not be like any of her bad relationships that have been abusive in the past and cheated on her. But he said it seems she is always upset and sad in the house and it’s all his fault so he thinks it is best if they Just work together for the game and leave personal feelings out of it. He said if she is acting like this now in the house and is getting frustrated and feeling comfortable enough in calling him names in front of all the HGs and all of 5million Americans watching then imagine what she would do in the real world in front of his family and friends?! He said he did that and done that in past relationships and got a T-shirt and don’t want it again. He said he’s good. Holly started crying again saying she is not blaming him for anything she just has PMS and don’t know how to deal with it (even tho she is over 30 years old). She started crying and begging him to stay with her and they ended the night in the bed together “cuddling” and she profusely apologized TO HIM lol. Jackson also said if she wants to do her “holly takes” she can he doesn’t care .. he said he was just saying the backyard was closed and she should wait until it opened .. then she apologized again for interrupting him and for putting him through this unnecessary stress lol ... in-between all this somewhere .. Jackson wanted to tell the house and America what holly calls her vagina .. he said it is three words but holly protested because she said her life is already not private now and she wanted to have some privacy. Jackson got upset but laughed about it at first until the other hg changed the subject to backgammon
 
You have remarkable fortitude Joesman. I couldn't watch any of that lover's spat.

Hopefully Holly's BFF will give her this dose of reality about Jackson as soon as she gets out of the house:

 
I didn't watch it. I just read this at Jokers and reposted it here. They are boring as fuck to me. He is as monotone as a drone and she has her own sicknesses concerning men she dates. She swears she has never had botox or a face lift but those cheeks look stuffed and her lips a poochie.
 
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