Camilla Parker Bowles.

[MrRochesterNY]

MOVE THIS THREAD TO THE CELEBRITY FORUM.

How many people here are gaga over ordinary humans who have achieved celebrity status for some reason, especially when they lack talent of any kind?

 

[mikey3000]

For your education, I repeat:

The language is The Queen's, English. Simple to understand.

http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/faqs...e-becomes-king

I quote:

Will The Duchess become Queen when The Prince becomes King?

Holy shit. Get off your high horse already. I am Canadian, living in Canada. They are my Royal Family and we are taught in the rules of succession of our royal family.

Though easy to understand, I see you still haven't quite grasped it.

Charles and Camilla have many titles:

The Prince's full style and title is: His Royal Highness The Prince Charles Philip Arthur George, Prince of Wales, Duke of Cornwall, Duke of Rothesay, Earl of Carrick, Earl of Chester, Baron of Renfrew, Lord of the Isles, Prince and Great Steward of Scotland, Royal Knight Companion of the Most Noble Order of the Garter, Extra Knight of the Most Ancient and Most Noble Order of the Thistle, Grand Master and Principal Knight Grand Cross of the Most Honourable Order of the Bath, Member of the Order of Merit, Knight of the Order of Australia, Companion of the Queen's Service Order, Member of Her Majesty's Most Honourable Privy Council, Aide-de-Camp to Her Majesty.[1]


Because the title Princess of Wales became strongly associated with the previous holder of that title, Diana, Camilla has adopted the feminine form of her husband's highest-ranking subsidiary title, Duke of Cornwall, although legally she is Princess of Wales. Although she will legally become queen consort if Prince Charles becomes king,[216][217] Clarence House stated on the occasion of their wedding in 2005 that it is intended that Camilla will adopt the unprecedented style of Princess Consort instead.[218] The title is similar to the style of Prince Albert. This is not the same usage as her father-in-law, Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, who does not hold the title of Prince Consort although he was created a Prince of the United Kingdom by his wife, Queen Elizabeth II.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camilla,_Duchess_of_Cornwall#Titles.2C_styles.2C_honours_and_arms

 

[gsdx]

Although she will legally become queen consort if Prince Charles becomes king,

It's not that simple:

The matter is decided by royal prerogative rather than Parliament; in other words, King Charles would have the sole authority over whether his wife would be known as Queen Camilla.

Legally, Camilla would automatically become queen if Prince Charles becomes king, but it’s not that simple. A statement from Clarence House, the official London residence of Prince Charles and Camilla, issued on the day they married announced that Camilla would be known as princess consort in the event of Charles’s accession to the throne.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/lifest...r-bowles-ever-be-queen-of-england-372304.html

 

[kallipolis]

Holy shit. Get off your high horse already. I am Canadian, living in Canada. They are my Royal Family and we are taught in the rules of succession of our royal family.

Though easy to understand, I see you still haven't quite grasped it.

Charles and Camilla have many titles:

The Prince's full style and title is: His Royal Highness The Prince Charles Philip Arthur George, Prince of Wales, Duke of Cornwall, Duke of Rothesay, Earl of Carrick, Earl of Chester, Baron of Renfrew, Lord of the Isles, Prince and Great Steward of Scotland, Royal Knight Companion of the Most Noble Order of the Garter, Extra Knight of the Most Ancient and Most Noble Order of the Thistle, Grand Master and Principal Knight Grand Cross of the Most Honourable Order of the Bath, Member of the Order of Merit, Knight of the Order of Australia, Companion of the Queen's Service Order, Member of Her Majesty's Most Honourable Privy Council, Aide-de-Camp to Her Majesty.[1]


Because the title Princess of Wales became strongly associated with the previous holder of that title, Diana, Camilla has adopted the feminine form of her husband's highest-ranking subsidiary title, Duke of Cornwall, although legally she is Princess of Wales. Although she will legally become queen consort if Prince Charles becomes king,[216][217] Clarence House stated on the occasion of their wedding in 2005 that it is intended that Camilla will adopt the unprecedented style of Princess Consort instead.[218] The title is similar to the style of Prince Albert. This is not the same usage as her father-in-law, Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, who does not hold the title of Prince Consort although he was created a Prince of the United Kingdom by his wife, Queen Elizabeth II.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camilla,_Duchess_of_Cornwall#Titles.2C_styles.2C_honours_and_arms

You really need to take note of the announcement made by Clarence House (Prince Charles' residence) repeated by me on two occasions that has clearly stated that Camilla will become Princess Consort, when Charles is crowned king.

The rest of your chatter is mere empty air.

 

[nycguydowntown]

They aren't next in line. Charles is next on line and that'd ad it should be.

Frankly Camilla has proven herself worthy of being a queen. That's for the sex games I doubt old Hilary will be seeing any action any time soon unless the poor guy is tied up blindfolded.

Hillary is too busy being smart and studying policy to help people---she has no time for sex, horse back riding---cutting ribbons and tea parties lol

 

[mikey3000]

You really need to take note of the announcement made by Clarence House (Prince Charles' residence) repeated by me on two occasions that has clearly stated that Camilla will become Princess Consort, when Charles is crowned king.

The rest of your chatter is mere empty air.

Yes, in 2005, upon their wedding, Clarence House said that Camilla will be known as Princess Consort, but that is just ONE of her many titles. Like now, she IS the princess of Wales but goes by the Duchess of Cornwall, another title she has because her husband is the Duke of Cornwall, one of his many titles.

I suspect there will be a change and that'll she use the title of Queen as she is entitled to, just as Queen Elizabeth (the Queen Mother) did. Diana's death is long passed and Camilla has done good work to earn the title of queen.

I also suspect that any facts you don't know, and choose not to learn from sources, is just chatter to you.

 

[gsdx]

I suspect there will be a change and that'll she use the title of Queen as she is entitled to, just as Queen Elizabeth (the Queen Mother) did.

She is NOT entitled to it. Just as King George granted the title to Elizabeth and there was a coronation ceremony for her, Charles must grant the title to Camilla. However, not only has it been agreed that she would hold the title of Princess Consort, it's doubtful that Charles would grant her the title of Queen simply because his subjects would not accept her in that capacity.

 

[kallipolis]

Yes, in 2005, upon their wedding, Clarence House said that Camilla will be known as Princess Consort, but that is just ONE of her many titles. Like now, she IS the princess of Wales but goes by the Duchess of Cornwall, another title she has because her husband is the Duke of Cornwall, one of his many titles.

I suspect there will be a change and that'll she use the title of Queen as she is entitled to, just as Queen Elizabeth (the Queen Mother) did. Diana's death is long passed and Camilla has done good work to earn the title of queen.

I also suspect that any facts you don't know, and choose not to learn from sources, is just chatter to you.

I am quoting the official announcement from Clarence House, the official residence of Charles, and Camilla.

http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/faqs/will-the-duchess-become-queen-when-the-prince-becomes-king

I quote:

Will The Duchess become Queen when The Prince becomes King?

As was explained at the time of their wedding in April 2005, it is intended that The Duchess will be known as HRH The Princess Consort when The Prince of Wales accedes to The Throne.

What do you not understand, when this statement makes it very clear that Camilla will become The Princess Consort, not The Queen Consort?

Your speculations are duly noted. The fact remains that Charles, and Camilla do not share your speculative thoughts.

 

[kallipolis]

She is NOT entitled to it. Just as King George granted the title to Elizabeth and there was a coronation ceremony for her, Charles must grant the title to Camilla. However, not only has it been agreed that she would hold the title of Princess Consort, it's doubtful that Charles would grant her the title of Queen simply because his subjects would not accept her in that capacity.

Correct....for the Diana factor remains a potent influence on Camilla being denied the status of Queen Consort.

Again I repeat that in the United Kingdom parliament is sovereign, and can change the succession laws permitting William to succeed Elizabeth 11. Charles, and Camilla are aware of the sensitivity on the matter of her not becoming Queen Consort.

Also note that Prince Philip is a former prince of Greece, born on the Greek island of Corfu, making Charles of interest for us Greeks. I may also add that Philip, and Charles make private visits to Greece, particularly to the monastic communities on Mount Athos.

 

[mikey3000]

"Prince Charles has said for the first time that his wife Camilla "could be" the Queen when he takes the throne.

Asked in an interview on US channel NBC whether the Duchess of Cornwall could ever become Queen Consort, he initially stumbled over his answer.

He then added: "We'll see won't we? That could be."

Clarence House said that "nothing had changed" since the couple's wedding, and that the Duchess would become Princess Consort as was stated then.

BBC royal correspondent Nicholas Witchell said the issue was the title which Camilla would take when the prince became king, not her role.

According to 1,000 years of history and precedent the wife of a king becomes a queen, as a Queen Consort, which has no constitutional power."

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-11800849

The choice is up to Charles and Camilla, when he is king, whether she uses the title of Queen Consort or Princess Consort, but when her husband becomes a king, she will no longer be a princess.

 

[gsdx]

*sigh*

You're an expert on Canadian law. You're an expert on conspiracy theories. And now you're an expert on British Royal Succession.

Have fun humiliating yourself.

 

[mikey3000]

Grow up Neil. I never claimed to be an expert on anything. Believe it or not there are others who actually know things too. Pretty simple. How about YOU check with The Monarchist League of Canada.

Will Camilla become Queen one day?

"At the time of the Prince of Wales' second marriage, Camilla assumed the title of Duchess of Cornwall, and it was suggested that, on Charles' acceding to the Throne, her title would be Princess Consort. However, in fact she would be Queen (Consort) unless a separate and distasteful legal procedure was taken to bar her from that title. Given the Duchess' faultless public service which has kindled so much admiration in Canada as in Britain, the evident happiness of the Prince of Wales and the enthusiastic acceptance of their marriage by The Queen and Princes William and Harry, it seems entirely possible that Camilla will be accorded the title of Queen at the time of the next accession."

Camilla will be Queen Consort of the Realm when Charles becomes our King.

 

[gsdx]

Well, that's different. Canada is most certainly an authority on British Royalty.

Oh, did you see the word 'possible'? Does it mean anything to you that Camilla signed away that title when she got married?

Don't answer those questions. Just think about them. I refuse to be dragged into your game again.

 

[mikey3000]

Um, signed away the title? Really? Source please. And British Royalty is Canada's Royalty. Didn't you know that?

In any case, never mind Neil. I'm so sorry. I am wrong and you are right. The Canadian constitution is wrong. The British constitution is wrong, the Monarchist League is wrong, but you are right. We're all so sorry.

 

[Benvolio]

I don't believe that involves the throne. Mike said she would "sit on the throne nicely next to King Charles should he become King". If she's not Queen, can she sit there? Has Philip ever sat next to Elizabeth on the throne?

I don't think anyone was suggestion that they sit on the same throne. Is it large enough? But Philip sits next to her in a throne like seat.

 

[mikey3000]

Like this?

Or this?

 

[gsdx]

In any case, never mind Neil. I'm so sorry. I am wrong and you are right. The Canadian constitution is wrong. The British constitution is wrong, the Monarchist League is wrong, but you are right. We're all so sorry.

You even steal my own words.

Nice play.

 

[Benvolio]

If she is given the title of queen, then she would be addressed as Your Majesty. How would that sit with the people?
Another factor is that Charles will be the constitutional monarch and chief of state of, I think eight countries. There will be some pressure in some countries to abandon the monarchy when Elizabeth is gone. Charles will not want the title of queen or address your majesty to add discomfort. I doubt if she will be given the title of queen or use that title. Nor will she be addressed as Your Majesty.

 

[mikey3000]

Consorts are addressed as Your Royal Highness, not Your Majesty. Only the Monarch is addressed as Your Majesty.

 

[Benvolio]

Consorts are addressed as Your Royal Highness, not Your Majesty. Only the Monarch is addressed as Your Majesty.

No, queens are addressed as Your Majesty as are queen mothers. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_queen_mothers