Charlie Kirk assasinated

[rareboy]

You tell me.

 

[Alistair]

 

[NotHardUp1]

Jesus Christ, is it my visual impairment or does that look like a ventriloquist’s dummy? Maybe a haunted one.

Well, Chuckie is also form of Charles.

 

[KaraBulut]

Now that Kimmel is back, it's time to put the pressure on MSNBC for this debacle:

Of note in this video around the 25:00 mark - Matt alleges that when he worked at ABC, Trump personally and staffers at the Trump White House called the head of ABC and tried to get Matthew Dowd fired. While ABC didn't fire him, he was asked if he could "tone it down".

Free speech, my ass.

 

[KaraBulut]

You tell me.

Why do I suspect there will be Charlie Kirk pumpkins this Hallowe'en?

 

[KaraBulut]

An interesting commentary from Brooks and Capehart.

Brooks makes the wry observation about the MAGA movement and the Christian Nationalists that it's a little difficult to defend yourself against being accused of being a Nazi when you're out and about saying that the Charlie Kirk murder is a Reichstag fire moment.

 

[rareboy]

As I wrote before...it is an ill wind that doesn't blow some good.

This time it will be for the other hate merchants and grifters because TPUSA has lost its carnival barker.

As I noted before, dark money flowed into TPUSA because they found the person they needed to preach the hate in their own hearts and to create and stoke social divisions.

And it has been very profitable....

Charlie Kirk’s Turning Point USA Raised $389 Million—Including $13.1 Million From This Texas Foundation

IRS filings show the Wayne Duddlesten Foundation was Turning Point USA’s largest direct donor, surpassing contributions from foundations linked to billionaires like Bernie Marcus, Charles Johnson and Jimmy John Liautaud.

www.forbes.com

 

[NotHardUp1]

An interesting commentary from Brooks and Capehart.

Brooks makes the wry observation about the MAGA movement and the Christian Nationalists that it's a little difficult to defend yourself against being accused of being a Nazi when you're out and about saying that the Charlie Kirk murder is a Reichstag fire moment.

A spectacularly relevant assessment. David Brooks is the old school conservative, and it was telling to hear him articulate that the late night genre has continually moved toward self-serving smugness of the left. His remark about Tucker Carlson was spot on, even if I cannot stand Carlson.

The last 2-3 minutes were the best. If only 1% is radical, then it is millions of us, and that spells big trouble, as it did in the 60's with over 4,000 bombings.

If you don't think we are rapidly headed there, and worse, I cannot see how you can imagine us escaping it. And you don't get to use the Apocalypse as a trump card.

 

[NotHardUp1]

Now that Kimmel is back,

To be perfectly clear, Kimmel is not.

Nexstar, and Sinclair, who own a large swath of affiliates, are refusing to air him now.

https://deadline.com/2025/09/nexstar-jimmy-kimmel-preemption-1236553268/

And I'm not sure ABC and Disney get a pass on that.

 

[KaraBulut]

A spectacularly relevant assessment. David Brooks is the old school conservative, and it was telling to hear him articulate that the late night genre has continually moved toward self-serving smugness of the left. His remark about Tucker Carlson was spot on, even if I cannot stand Carlson.

I like how he distinguished between the initial rational responses to the Kirk shooting and the later incendiary appropriation by actors in social media (some of whom were likely Russian and Chinese bots) and opportunists in politics, including the White House. Those opportunists were likely oblivious to what they were connecting themselves to in their "Reichstag" allusions.

The last 2-3 minutes were the best. If only 1% is radical, then it is millions of us, and that spells big trouble, as it did in the 60's with over 4,000 bombings.

I was glad he brought up the late 60s and the 70s, where campus unrest was so out of control. People have forgotten that government buildings and universities were bombed by the left.

The left was driven to near insanity by the outrages of the civil rights battles in the South and by the Vietnam War draft. One thing that people forget: at the core of the civil unrest was a religious revival- largely Christian at first. Organizations like TPUSA have been trying to create another religious revival and they may be accumulating a powderkeg that they cannot control.

This generation on the left hasn't been driven that far, yet. But if Trump continues down this Nixonian path, antagonizing a generation that has been traumatized by the spectre of school shootings, he could revive that kind of radicalization. I've been surprised that the campus protests over Palestine haven't erupted into a larger, more violent movement.

If you don't think we are rapidly headed there, and worse, I cannot see how you can imagine us escaping it. And you don't get to use the Apocalypse as a trump card.

We go through these tumultuous periods. History shows that they are cycles. What worries me about this cycle of turmoil is that we have a lot of people being driven insane by an incessant drone of algorithmic incitement by a device in their pockets. And there's about 4 times more guns in the equation than there was back in the 1970s.

 

[KaraBulut]

To be perfectly clear, Kimmel is not.

Nexstar, and Sinclair, who own a large swath of affiliates, are refusing to air him now.

https://deadline.com/2025/09/nexstar-jimmy-kimmel-preemption-1236553268/

And I'm not sure ABC and Disney get a pass on that.

I suspect they may rue the day that they pull this. Didn't they just see what happened to Disney with boycotts and cancellations?

Most people haven't heard of Sinclair and people living in liberal bastions like Asheville and Washington DC may not realize that their local ABC affiliate is owned by Sinclair. They will be made aware of that tonight.

Jimmy Kimmel posts the majority of his show on YouTube. He is far ahead of the troglodytes in the Sinclair Broadcasting corporate suite. Sinclair's audience will have yet another reason not to watch TV (which is very likely offered on cable, not OTA signals). They'll just go to YouTube and watch it all there, transferring more ad revenue from Sinclair to Google.

Here's where Sinclair's ABC stations are located. Some of those markets will notice, others will not.

 

[NotHardUp1]

We go through these tumultuous periods. History shows that they are cycles. What worries me about this cycle of turmoil is that we have a lot of people being driven insane by an incessant drone of algorithmic incitement by a device in their pockets. And there's about 4 times more guns in the equation than there was back in the 1970s.

I'm more concerned that terrorism and guerilla warfare have advanced so much, and drones can be exploited just as easily as they are in Ukraine. We are likely to see things that will make bombings look tame, including chemical or nerve agents, including mass deaths.

 

[NotHardUp1]

I suspect they may rue the day that they pull this. Didn't they just see what happened to Disney with boycotts and cancellations?

Most people haven't heard of Sinclair and people living in liberal bastions like Asheville and Washington DC may not realize that their local ABC affiliate is owned by Sinclair. They will be made aware of that tonight.

Jimmy Kimmel posts the majority of his show on YouTube. He is far ahead of the troglodytes in the Sinclair Broadcasting corporate suite. Sinclair's audience will have yet another reason not to watch TV (which is very likely offered on cable, not OTA signals). They'll just go to YouTube and watch it all there, transferring more ad revenue from Sinclair to Google.

Here's where Sinclair's ABC stations are located. Some of those markets will notice, others will not.
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I just read that Sinclair has waffled and now is not airing the Kirk tribute except online, and will follow ABC programming. We'll see.

 

[cityboy-stl]

Charlie's Circle Kirk

 

[cityboy-stl]

I just read that Sinclair has waffled and now is not airing the Kirk tribute except online, and will follow ABC programming. We'll see.

Here, they are airing pro Trumpenführer propaganda. Definitely not Jimmy Kimmel.

 

[KaraBulut]

Here, they are airing pro Trumpenführer propaganda. Definitely not Jimmy Kimmel.

Go after their advertisers:

Boycotting Sinclair for Not Airing Jimmy Kimmel Is Trickier Than Boycotting Disney

If you'd like to boycott Sinclair Broadcast Group for its refusal to air Jimmy Kimmel's show, you're going to have to take a couple of steps.

www.distractify.com

 

[rareboy]

I just read that Sinclair has waffled and now is not airing the Kirk tribute except online, and will follow ABC programming. We'll see.

I suspect that it is tricky for affiliates to unilaterally not follow programming except in very unusual and probably localized instances. Contractually, it could be a problem.

 

[KaraBulut]

I suspect that it is tricky for affiliates to unilaterally not follow programming except in very unusual and probably localized instances. Contractually, it could be a problem.

A few years ago, an extra charge started showing up on US cable bills- it's a $30-$50 charge for a "broadcast television fee".

The revenue stream is something like this:

• The local station "buys" network content from ABC, CBS, NBC, et al.
• The cable providers buy the content streams from local stations. For example, Spectrum in NYC would pay to rebroadcast local TV stations on cable which means that the cable provider rebroadcasts OTA programming on cable in every market for a fee paid to the local TV stations. That "broadcast television fee" is the cable provider passing on the charge for local television programming.
• Ad revenue is split between the network and the local affiliates. Ozempic pays ABC to run an ad on Jimmy Kimmel and a portion of that money goes to ABC and a portion goes to the local station. When the local station preempts Jimmy Kimmel, they lose their income from the Ozempic ad.

That's why the article that I posted earlier today about complaining to advertisers who paid to advertise during the preempted programming on Nextstar and Sinclair is the way to go. If Bob's Sofa World is a local business who bought ads during Sinclair's political crap program that ran instead of Jimmy Kimmel and Bob gets an earful of complaints, he's going to pull his ads. That's the way to get Sinclair's attention.

 

[KaraBulut]

Charlie's Circle Kirk

A couple of things...

The reports of increased Grindr usage in Phoenix was on social media.


Grindr didn't comment on traffic from Phoenix during the Kirk memorial service but there is a known pattern that anywhere that Republicans, MAGA groups and Christians gather, Grindr activity increases.

Cleveland Was Bombarded with White Dudes on Grindr During the RNC

According to data from the gay social networking app, the biggest trend during RNC was "the over-representation of white males."

www.vice.com

I'm getting frustrated with this line about "If <insert Democratic President here> said that, then...". I hear this a lot.

Trump is not normal. No Republican President or Democratic President has ever talked this way, acted this way or showed their ass in public in this way.

We shouldn't be pretending that there's a different standard for Republican vs Democratic Presidents. There should be one standard. No matter the party of the politicians, Americans deserve better than this.

 

[cityboy-stl]

A couple of things...

The reports of increased Grindr usage in Phoenix was on social media.
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Grindr didn't comment on traffic from Phoenix during the Kirk memorial service but there is a known pattern that anywhere that Republicans, MAGA groups and Christians gather, Grindr activity increases.

Cleveland Was Bombarded with White Dudes on Grindr During the RNC

According to data from the gay social networking app, the biggest trend during RNC was "the over-representation of white males."

www.vice.com

I'm getting frustrated with this line about "If <insert Democratic President here> said that, then...". I hear this a lot.

Trump is not normal. No Republican President or Democratic President has ever talked this way, acted this way or showed their ass in public in this way.

We shouldn't be pretending that there's a different standard for Republican vs Democratic Presidents. There should be one standard. No matter the party of the politicians, Americans deserve better than this.

Nevertheless, it is totally true. If <Democratic President> said/did that, republicans would be losing their minds. And you know it. I'm not frustrated with hearing the line. I'm frustrated with their actual hypocrisy. Are you saying there is something wrong with exposing republican deceit and utter hypocrisy? Are you saying Democrats should just let hypocrisy slide and say nothing?

The only ones pretending the standard is different, are republicans. In fact, they are not pretending. They think the standard is different for them! They clearly act like it. Holding hypocrites accountable for their hypocrisy is what Democrats should be doing every time it happens. Why not?

One of my favorite little sayings: Democrats think the glass is half full, republicans think the glass belongs to them.